Why isn't John Hammond fired?

[wichmae]

Leuer was added to that Dalembert deal to make salaries work and Hammond said he regretted having to do it.

Somewhat true. Their schedule of transactions dictated the way they had to make the salary work. Leuer however was never given a true fair shot with SS as the master of idiocy.

[bwpn gold]

Can't really go back. Had Senator Kohl not jumped the gun with the extension at mid-season, John Hammond would have been fired at year-end. The JJ Redick trade and the horrible end-of-year performance of the Bucks would have made it inevitable.

The question is whether he has done anything since the end of last season to cause Senator Kohl to reconsider? The team is awful. I would think most folks on this site would be delighted. If we end up with a top 5 pick, hard to get too upset. It is what we want, isn't it?

As is typical with John Hammond, the record is mixed.

He certainly can be blamed for loading up on mediocre to bad veterans. His biggest signing (OJ) appears to be a whiff.

There have been some real pluses as well. The Giannis pick was outstanding. Dumping BJ for Knight and Middleton sure looks promising. Most of us would have given him away for nothing. We might have obtained 2 nice players.

In the end, I think we keep John Hammond. He has a very strong drafting record and the 2014 draft pick has the potential to be franchise saving.

I do get worried that we will need to make a number of further moves to surround Giannis, Henson and our 2014 1st round pick with significantly more talent. His trades and free agent signings have been pretty poor.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Yet while the New Orleans Pelicans (i.e. forward Ryan Anderson) and Milwaukee Bucks (i.e. forward Ersan Ilyasova) have also been tied to the Asik situation, two people with knowledge of both team's dealings said they are no longer in the mix. The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the private nature of the talks. Things could change, of course, but it appears both teams have bowed out for now.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb ... s/4015187/


Sam Amick says we're out of Asik talks.

[cinematographer]

Anyone with Insider?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... -blueprint

THAT is the forward thinking this franchise needs moving forward. Not any of this Henson and Sanders playing together bull.

[wichmae]

Anyone with Insider?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story/_/ ... -blueprint

THAT is the forward thinking this franchise needs moving forward. Not any of this Henson and Sanders playing together bull.

[ReasonablySober]

The Vipers are the real world version of what I coach in NBA2K that leads to 70 win seasons.

[randy84]

Leuer was added to that Dalembert deal to make salaries work and Hammond said he regretted having to do it.

Oh! For Dalembert? In that case, Hammond is a frick'in genius.

[cinematographer]

The Vipers are the real world version of what I coach in NBA2K that leads to 70 win seasons.

There's just literally no reason to shoot a 2 that has a 40% chance of going in if you can get a 3 that has a 27% chance of going in.

But Larry Drew and numbers.

[paulpressey25]

Oh! For Dalembert? In that case, Hammond is a frick'in genius.

Yes. You remember that 2012 draft right? The one where Hammond was a genius for targeting John Henson.

He liked Henson so much and just knew he'd be there at 14, so he had no fear in dropping a couple spots lower in the draft the day prior.

[cinematographer]

Oh! For Dalembert? In that case, Hammond is a frick'in genius.

Yes. You remember that 2012 draft right? The one where Hammond was a genius for targeting John Henson.

He liked Henson so much and just knew he'd be there at 14, so he had no fear in dropping a couple spots lower in the draft the day prior.

And he liked Henson so much that he'd trade him for 2 months of Josh Smith.

[paulpressey25]

And he liked Henson so much that he'd trade him for 2 months of Josh Smith.

Henson was never going out in that deal. Moute and Udoh plus maybe our first, but that was not in stone. BuckPack can reconfirm the names.

[worthlessBucks]

You do what you have to do to get that Ayon chip. Pretty sure the first was going out in that 3 way deal.

[CanadaBucks]

And he liked Henson so much that he'd trade him for 2 months of Josh Smith.

Henson was never going out in that deal. Moute and Udoh plus maybe our first, but that was not in stone. BuckPack can reconfirm the names.

Atlanta guy's story is that Hammond insisted on Luc being included and Ferry didn't want him so no deal. But Henson wasn't going, I believe Harris was traded as they felt he was a PF and liked Henson better.

[Wooderson]

IIRC the Hawks didn't really want to add any additional salary beyond last year. But if that's the case I'm not sure how talks progressed that far in the first place. Maybe the hold up was the Bucks first-round pick and the Bucks wouldn't bite. But PP is right Henson wasn't going anywhere.

[Wooderson]

Henson was never going out in that deal. Moute and Udoh plus maybe our first, but that was not in stone. BuckPack can reconfirm the names.

Atlanta guy's story is that Hammond insisted on Luc being included and Ferry didn't want him so no deal. But Henson wasn't going, I believe Harris was traded as they felt he was a PF and liked Henson better.

Since ATL reportedly pulled out of an agreed upon deal, I'm wondering if Ferry agreed to a deal without the pick and then pulled out of the agreement in hopes of baiting Hammond into giving away a first rounder.

[cinematographer]

And he liked Henson so much that he'd trade him for 2 months of Josh Smith.

Henson was never going out in that deal. Moute and Udoh plus maybe our first, but that was not in stone. BuckPack can reconfirm the names.

Hmm. That's what I thought, but an earlier post flipped me.

Alright. Hammond, you get a pass for not having Henson in the Smith deal, but you still get a kick in the ass for wanting Josh Smith long term.

[Baddy Chuck]

Best part is he wanted Josh Smith to be our small forward. .

[randy84]

Best part is he wanted Josh Smith to be our small forward. .

Apple must not fall far from the tree. I heard there is GM in Detroit that thinks the same thing.

[paulpressey25]

Best part is he wanted Josh Smith to be our small forward. .

I'd just like to know how many deals involving Ersan that we've turned down the past year. I'm thinking it might turn the boards stomach.

[cinematographer]

Best part is he wanted Josh Smith to be our small forward. .

I'd just like to know how many deals involving Ersan that we've turned down the past year. I'm thinking it might turn the boards stomach.

What do you want to set the over/under at?