ATL - PG13 to Thunder

[3Diamantidis]

I don't know what ainge has in mind.
I would keep fultz and i would have tried to pair him with IT.
If they didn't fit, i would trade one of the two after half a season/an entire season(their value would still be very high).
If they want jackson, where will brown play?

These guys need a center and in this draft i can't see anyone fitting.
If you want to trade the pick ok but why don't do it for a position of need?
Why not try to acquire whiteside and work sth with the heat who want to rebuild around youth?

[Baddy Chuck]

Whatt ? Again you expose yourself by saying that.
There are topics of people comparing Embiid wot KAT and KAT destroys him, on projected skills.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4ukq7t/which_skills_does_embiid_project_to_be_better_at/

This is from before Embiid played a single game and fresh off Towns tremendous ROTY season.

[Plossum]

Is Giannis v Embiid now a thing? I'd much rather Giannis and it isn't close. What makes Embiid more attractive? He has a better outside shot but not sure he does anything better or even projects to.

[Magic Giannison]

Hahaha this magic thing we're Giannis learns to shoot. Can't wait for that

Remind me his shooting % during playoffs, " where it matters" were ? 40% from 3with 54 % FG %?

[Magic Giannison]

Whatt ? Again you expose yourself by saying that.
There are topics of people comparing Embiid wot KAT and KAT destroys him, on projected skills.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4ukq7t/which_skills_does_embiid_project_to_be_better_at/

This is from before Embiid played a single game and fresh off Towns tremendous ROTY season.

And?Embiids potential and talent doesnt change does it ? people were hyping him as the next GOAT Center .
I already gave you example were people take Simmons and even Saric over him in some cases.

[Baddy Chuck]

Whatt ? Again you expose yourself by saying that.
There are topics of people comparing Embiid wot KAT and KAT destroys him, on projected skills.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4ukq7t/which_skills_does_embiid_project_to_be_better_at/

This is from before Embiid played a single game and fresh off Towns tremendous ROTY season.

And?Embiids potential and talent doesnt change does it ? people were hyping him as the next GOAT Center .
I already gave you example were people take Simmons and even Saric over him in some cases.

How doesn't a guy's potential change when he goes from completely unproven to straight up dominating the league?

[Magic Giannison]

You also forget that Embiid came as more polished guy into the league while Giannis needed more time as he started basketball late which is the reason why It took him until last year to bloom.

We're talking about the same Embiid that was "discovered" at a basketball without borders camp in Africa 6 years ago right?

Nah, im talking the guy that game from Kansas U with extreme hype.

[Prez]

Whatt ? Again you expose yourself by saying that.
There are topics of people comparing Embiid wot KAT and KAT destroys him, on projected skills.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/4ukq7t/which_skills_does_embiid_project_to_be_better_at/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/5zjlgc/who_would_you_rather_have_joel_embiid_or_dario/
Sixers fan himself saying that Embiid is top 5 in HIS position of healthy.In a topic about EMBIID vs Dario Freaking Saric.

In same thread people calling delusional who thinks eh will be a superstar is he is healthy.

There are even people taking Simmons over embiid with a perfectly healthy embiid.

I'm not getting into this idiotic reddit search, one of those threads is from 10 months ago before Embiid even did anything lmao. I could easily pull up pro-Embiid reddit posts. If you want general opinions at this very moment on this specific discussion, go to the GB/PC board right now and post that thread topic I mentioned. Something like "What is the talent gap & difference in upside between Giannis and a guaranteed 100% healthy Embiid"

As for the Middleton thread it didnt work out as you hoped or said,far from it,, most said he had great start and then went to **** and was bad on playoffs while you said he was the reason to spark the team run which nobody agrees to be fair.
All of that while taking the context that he came off an injury.

No, that's not what was said at all. The majority opinion was that he was good for a big chunk of the RS, wore down late and had a rough postseason. Which dumps on your claims that he was terrible and low impact most of the time.

[3Diamantidis]

I love other teams playing chess while the Bucks play checkers.

And lately the Bucks latest moves aren't even checkers. It is more like giving a blind kid a stick telling him to stand in the corner and hit the wall.

But when you have been **** all over yourself for the better part of 3 years you really need to promote the intern to your highest **** office because he has been so instrumental to you **** all over yourself for the better part of the last 3 years.

Let's wait before we judge.
The bucks are n a very good position now. They have no significant bad contracts(teletovic is on a 10mil and henson on a 11mil---i don't consider monroe's contract a bad contract any more). Delly is also on a 10mil contract.
If you manage to not overpay snell and just draft one more decent guy(not even very good--just decent PG) the only thing that you really need is ilyasova back(there i said it) instead of teletovic to cover for jabari.

[blazza18]

Hahaha this magic thing we're Giannis learns to shoot. Can't wait for that

Remind me his shooting % during playoffs, " where it matters" were ? 40% from 3with 54 % FG %?

Ah the solid 6 game sample size. The series where he didn't want to shoot the three that ended our season

Should've used his month of December numbers instead.

[Prez]

Is Giannis v Embiid now a thing? I'd much rather Giannis and it isn't close. What makes Embiid more attractive? He has a better outside shot but not sure he does anything better or even projects to.

I don't know, a 7'2" monster of a center who can hit 3s, shut down the paint like Rudy Gobert and average 20+ in his sleep pretty much right out of the gates his rookie year seems like a pretty attractive player to me.

[Baddy Chuck]

You also forget that Embiid came as more polished guy into the league while Giannis needed more time as he started basketball late which is the reason why It took him until last year to bloom.

We're talking about the same Embiid that was "discovered" at a basketball without borders camp in Africa 6 years ago right?

Nah, im talking the guy that game from Kansas U with extreme hype.

Ahh, that one that was a volley ball player until he was 15?

[4xBuck]

What a dumpster fire of a thread... This is what happens when y'all forget to take your midol.

[Magic Giannison]

This is from before Embiid played a single game and fresh off Towns tremendous ROTY season.

And?Embiids potential and talent doesnt change does it ? people were hyping him as the next GOAT Center .
I already gave you example were people take Simmons and even Saric over him in some cases.

How doesn't a guy's potential change when he goes from completely unproven to straight up dominating the league?

How does a guy that has played only 31 games on extremely high usage was dominant with:

20 points,7.8 reb,2.1 ast,0.9stls,2.5 blks and 3,8 TOV in 25 minutes average ?

How the heck is that dominant when he played his best minutes , no b2b and had 36% USG.

His FG was at 46.6 % in 31 games compared to Giannis 52 % for the whole year and playing over 2 thousand more minutes than him ?

Even KAT **** on Embiids performance this year by any metric.

[Magic Giannison]

We're talking about the same Embiid that was "discovered" at a basketball without borders camp in Africa 6 years ago right?

Nah, im talking the guy that game from Kansas U with extreme hype.

Ahh, that one that was a volley ball player until he was 15?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that league wasn't heels and above in terms of hype before he even was drafted?
The guy was drafted 3rd while being injured in a draft that was suppose to be one of the best in last 10 years?
He also played in HS which Giannis never did.

[Prez]

Nah, im talking the guy that game from Kansas U with extreme hype.

Ahh, that one that was a volley ball player until he was 15?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that league wasn't heels and above in terms of hype before he even was drafted?
The guy was drafted 3rd while being injured in a draft that was suppose to be one of the best in last 10 years?

Go ahead and take a wild guess as to why a guy who started playing organized basketball at 16 had that much hype behind him.

[freewhitemoon]

MG showing us the reddit comments from "outside fans" again?

[Baddy Chuck]

Nah, im talking the guy that game from Kansas U with extreme hype.

Ahh, that one that was a volley ball player until he was 15?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that league wasn't heels and above in terms of hype before he even was drafted?
The guy was drafted 3rd while being injured in a draft that was suppose to be one of the best in last 10 years?

They were head over heels with him but it doesn't take away from the fact that your "Giannis didn't start playing until later so it makes sense for him to be behind" has some SEEEEEERRRRIOUS holes, considering Embiid started basketball later in life than Giannis.....

[3Diamantidis]

Hahaha this magic thing we're Giannis learns to shoot. Can't wait for that

Remind me his shooting % during playoffs, " where it matters" were ? 40% from 3with 54 % FG %?

Ah the solid 6 game sample size. The series where he didn't want to shoot the three that ended our season

Should've used his month of December numbers instead.

Are you sure you want to use the december numbers in particular? Because his december was not good for his shooting but was good enough to get him into early MVP discussion---1st in PER in the league).

I don't know what exactly you are trying to say here.
I think that the bucks should stick with Giannis and if they had to choose between him, towns, embiid, porzingis etc, they should have picked him over the others 10 out of 10 times.

I think he proved on an emphatic way his worth and i feel that every single team in the league(aside maybe warriors) would have done everything they could to secure his services.

IF embiid was healthy, i can think enough people they would have prefered him instead(and enough more jokic) and i find this totally understandable(everybody can have their preference).

But embiid is not healthy. Giannis is. And he's all yours. So how about stop downgrading his proven importance to your team and enjoy the ride(the Exciting ride)?
I just can't get it.

[Magic Giannison]

Ahh, that one that was a volley ball player until he was 15?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that league wasn't heels and above in terms of hype before he even was drafted?
The guy was drafted 3rd while being injured in a draft that was suppose to be one of the best in last 10 years?

Go ahead and take a wild guess as to why a guy who started playing organized basketball at 16 had that much hype behind him.

HE started at 15, had Mbah a Moute as mentor, played HS baskebtall and College. Thats far more time in training than Giannis ever got.

I can tell you why, Tall and talented guy that got extremely overhyped . Same like many other suppose to be superstars ha din the past.

Remember OJ mayo hype?
Remmeber Greg Oden
magic Randolph ?
Lamar odom ?
Wiggins Canadian Lebron hype ?