Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - OFF SEASON EDITION

[StickeeFingaz]

This Giannis has a "strong personality" talk is coming off to me as "Giannis is selfish" and wants all the credit. He constantly says all he cares about is winning but then can't swallow his pride and welcome another alpha personality? News flash, other great players have strong personalities. Part of being mature and being a leader is getting along with other players.

[Daver]

This Giannis has a "strong personality" talk is coming off to me as "Giannis is selfish" and wants all the credit. He constantly says all he cares about is winning but then can't swallow his pride and welcome another alpha personality? News flash, other great players have strong personalities. Part of being mature and being a leader is getting along with other players.

This could all be a smoke screen from the brass and no one knows exactly what giannis did or didnt say on paul maybe the hucks are worried with how much they will have to give up.Maybe they have their eyes on a holiday beal reddick instead i think all 3 of those players plus lavine improve the bucks

[ShootingtheJ]

Whats with all this DDV hype? Where does it come from? It ain't his shooting, it aint his pick n roll plays, what is it? Is it fun to watch a short guard dunk? OK.

Bayless was better than DDV has ever been, at least I remembers him shooting the 3 at 40%.

What's Donte? He is 23+ and you are acting like he is 19. He wasn't even a starter at Villanova... how do you suggest to be a starter on a Championship team with Giannis demanding guards hitting the 3 at 40%clip?

He's #49 in RPM and his advanced stats with Giannis on the floor are nuts. He contributed in a lot more ways than just shooting.

You are saying, Real Plus Minus based on team perfomance metric, is the factor to be high about someone ?

Christian Wood is #16
Mychal Mulder is #18 (1st time I read his name) , GSW
Daniel Theis is #25 (Boston)

So its clearly a flawed metric to rely on...
Giannis demands to build around shooting and off the dribble shooting. This RPM says almost nothing to me. Its OK though, if some GMs look RPM than he has value in a trade

RPM isn't the only stat that loves Donte. He was 1.3 VORP, more than Bogdanovic, or 1.3 more than Landry Shamet. He has a PER of 17.8, and PER doesn't even measure what Donte is good at.

Donte is really good, and it totally sucks that we didn't get the real Donte in the bubble until it was too late.

[giannis and 1]

What did Murray say and about who ?

Read on Twitter

What Mike Malone said about him*, my bad

[Prez]

Who here thinks we beat the Heat or, at worst, the series goes 7 games if Giannis stays healthy and we have home court advantage?

If so, who thinks we'd beat the Celtics in the ECFs with home court advantage?

I do.

We're still so close. We don't need to tear it apart. I don't think they should overreact to the bubble. They do need to evaluate, and possibly overhaul, the PG/lead guard position (Bledsoe can't be relied upon in the playoffs and Hill doesn't always seem to care whether we win or lose) and add a quality wing shooter (or two). That's it.

Home court advantage. Bud tweaks his approach. Giannis stays healthy and makes FTs. We're in.

And how many more years do you wait for bud to tweak his approach hasnt done jack sh.. about adjusting or tweaking his approach in the last 2 years.
How long do we continue to have non shooters on our team bled wes etc yes its time for a big bomb of a trade

It's reported Bud has come to some realizations. Yes, it does suck that it may have taken two playoff collapses to get there.

And, yes, we do need more consistent shooters. This is the 2nd season in a row that our 3-point shooters went cold in the playoffs.

Bled's woes are obvious. And as much as I like Pat, he can't shoot. Wesley and his 40% from 3 in the playoffs, however, can stay. He's decidedly not in the "non-shooter" category.

Where was this reported?

[Baddy Chuck]

What's better then a 4 team extravaganza? Why a 6 team extravaganza of course.


Portland trades: McCollum, Collins
Portland receives: Holiday, Rolo

New Orleans trades: Holiday
New Orleans receives: Collins, Beverly, Payton, #24, #27

New York trades: Payton, #27
New York receives: Bledsoe

OKC trades: Paul
OKC receives: Harrell S&T, McGruder, Wilson, Shamet, MKE future 1st

LAC trades: George, Harrell S&T, Beverly, Zubac, McGruder, Shamet
LAC receives: Paul, Middleton, BroLo

MIL trades: Middleton, Brolo, Bledsoe, Rolo, Wilson, #24, future 1st
MIL receives: George, McCollum, Zubac


I need to stop playing with the trade machine.

[ShootingtheJ]

Very confused by the recent Schroder fascination tbh. This past season was the first where he was really any good.

Yup, and that was only because he played SG all season. He's not what we need.

[emunney]

If Giannis wants to win a title he's gonna need to figure out how the NBA works.

Quite the cliff hanger, enlighten me. What does Giannis need to figure out about how the NBA works?

Stars can't win on their own.

You need multiple superstars like the Heat.

[blazza18]

Quite the cliff hanger, enlighten me. What does Giannis need to figure out about how the NBA works?

Stars can't win on their own.

You need multiple superstars like the Heat.

Or guys who play like ones come playoff time anyway.

[emunney]

Where are the Heat going to play when Miami's gone?

[emunney]

Stars can't win on their own.

You need multiple superstars like the Heat.

Or guys who play like ones come playoff time anyway.

I don't think they have any one player consistently playing at that level. Just everybody playing well and in perfect coordination.

[Plossum]

What's better then a 4 team extravaganza? Why a 6 team extravaganza of course.


Portland trades: McCollum, Collins
Portland receives: Holiday, Rolo

New Orleans trades: Holiday
New Orleans receives: Collins, Beverly, Payton, #24, #27

New York trades: Payton, #27
New York receives: Bledsoe

OKC trades: Paul
OKC receives: Harrell S&T, McGruder, Wilson, Shamet, MKE future 1st

LAC trades: George, Harrell S&T, Beverly, Zubac, McGruder, Shamet
LAC receives: Paul, Middleton, BroLo

MIL trades: Middleton, Brolo, Bledsoe, Rolo, Wilson, #24, future 1st
MIL receives: George, McCollum, Zubac


I need to stop playing with the trade machine.

This actually makes sense for the parties involved. Maybe not for OKC. They might prefer to just run it back depending on how much Harrell costs.

[Baddy Chuck]

This actually makes sense for the parties involved. Maybe not for OKC. They might prefer to just run it back depending on how much Harrell costs.

Yeah maybe, thought Harrell/Shamet had some pretty good chemistry with SGA and would be some nice targets for them to move on from Paul.

[Cooleyo47]

And how many more years do you wait for bud to tweak his approach hasnt done jack sh.. about adjusting or tweaking his approach in the last 2 years.
How long do we continue to have non shooters on our team bled wes etc yes its time for a big bomb of a trade

It's reported Bud has come to some realizations. Yes, it does suck that it may have taken two playoff collapses to get there.

And, yes, we do need more consistent shooters. This is the 2nd season in a row that our 3-point shooters went cold in the playoffs.

Bled's woes are obvious. And as much as I like Pat, he can't shoot. Wesley and his 40% from 3 in the playoffs, however, can stay. He's decidedly not in the "non-shooter" category.

Where was this reported?

The Athletic article said Bud realized his minutes management was wrong. It also seems Bud will be receiving some pressure from management to figure out the reasons for the collapses.

[Chuck Diesel]

Listening to LOB today confirms my theory that Giannis does not want Chris Paul.

I'd love to hear Giannis say who he does want, but tampering and stuff.

We really don't have much insight in to what he's looking for as far as running mates go. From past comments he's made about being sad guys like Thon and Kidd are gone, I'd peg GM Giannis about as bad as GM Lebron.

I still think there's room for Giannis to have meaningful roster input. I'll take him at his word about wanting to win an NBA title in Milwaukee. If I'm the player personnel braintrust of Giannis's kingdom, the pitch is "I'm Tim Duncan. I'm Dirk. I'm going to be here forever and that's how long I plan winning championships.Come join me." Even if he knows he has to move back to Athens in order to fulfill the terms of a deal he struck with the Greek Gods Kratos and Briareus in exactly three years. That's still the pitch.

He's captained consecutive all star teams, has power & connections with Nike& Octagon, he's played in multiple FIBA tournaments. This isn't the same kid who was borrowing furniture and winter coats from Caron Butler & Ersan. We gotta start giving him a little more credit that he's with it enough to know it can't just be OJ Mayo and another brother.

To a lesser extent, the same applies to Budenholze/staff, Middleton and Brook. Bud coached the 2018 all all star game (staff coached rookie game). Khris was a part of two. He and Brook spent last summer with Team USA. There's currently more recruiting opportunities then I can ever remember as a Bucks fan. Hopefully the seeds were planted and we're in for a fine autumn harvest.

[th87]

Mark Chmura has a media job?

Looks true to form creepy in that picture

[soxperry]

Very confused by the recent Schroder fascination tbh. This past season was the first where he was really any good.

Yup, and that was only because he played SG all season. He's not what we need.

I dont know.. i watched him in the playoffs and was drooling over him. He seems like the exact kind of player that would have helped us against Miami.

[Chuck Diesel]

Mark Chmura has a media job?

Hot takes, hotter tubs.

EDIT: I just looked back on that case I hazily remembered from my boyhood and god damn. Way worse than I realized.

[Prez]

Bogdan needs to be a Buck. Friends with Giannis, Vlade’s out in SAC, fits like a glove on the Bucks for what they need, and he’s probably not thrilled with being in SAC long term. Feel like he’s super attainable if they go for it.

[Fotis St]

I think top tier Superstars believe Giannis is not as good as advertised. Most of them believe they can do the same thing in the weak East. This year's elimination hurts Giannis legacy and reputation for sure. He better start make FTs at 80+% . In Superstars' eyes he is now closer to Westbrook and Harden than to Lebron which is unfair cause he is the best defender in the NBA, while others cruise around.

Another thing to mention is that his choice not to have " superstar friends" cause he sees everybody as enemies needs to change, if he wants someone to request to come to MIL.

Another issue that will make harder to trade for a superstar , is that unfortunately alot of teams underperformed and the will trade a superstar for a superstar, which makes it way more difficult to get a superstar with our pile of assets like (Bled + filler + picks) ...

so I think it would be smart to be proactive now, talk to GMs on Superstar X value, and if we see that there almost zero chance... we need to trade fast for those second tier stars who were not highlighted this year, like Lavine and other names we talked about here, Fournier, DeRozan, and some other players with some elite skill we need, like Rubio, Bogdanovic (UTAH), Seth Curry, Lonzo, Shroeder, Bogdanovic , Ingles, and others names you mentioned