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Post#181 » by coolhandluke121 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:20 pm

msiris wrote:In the playoffs vs Miami Brook was preety much useless


Brook was actually the team's best player against Miami, but only because of absurdly unsustainable hot shooting (43% from 3 and 65% ts). It's true that his foot speed was an issue on defense and the boards against Bam. He and his brother were both dead in the water against Vucevic as well. He's just so damn slow. Two years ago didn't the Bucks have a better defensive rating with him on the bench than on the floor? They can usually hide his defense, but facing teams that present match-up problems for him is probably going to be the norm and not the exception as the Bucks advance in the playoffs. He's definitely gotta hit at least 35% of his 3's in order to be worth his salary and fully compensate for the trickle-down effect of having to play a certain system to minimize his weaknesses IMO.
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Post#182 » by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:25 pm

My only gripe with Brook is I wish Bud would use his low-post scoring ability more during those slower paced, half court games.
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Post#183 » by SirChurros » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:48 pm

It's too bad Vernon Carey didn't drop a bit in the draft. I think he's going to be a really nice player and I could have seen him eventually replacing Brook.
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Post#184 » by Brewhoopfan » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:14 pm

I also think Brook is really valuable as a floor spacer and a rim protector. Brook's playoff defense struggled. He is slow, but in terms of scheme, you can't expect him to succeed in the playoffs playing differently than 99% of the regular season. Bud didn't prepare Brook or the entire team for a Plan B defensively.
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Post#185 » by DingleJerry » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:26 pm

I think everyone knows Brook's strengths and issues. With everything they've already done I'd guess they're rolling with him this year. If they don't at least make the Finals this year and his slowness on D is an issue I'd guess he's the shake up move that is left for next offseason if needed using his contract. I'd guess the idea would be to find a player with his salary area for another shooter/bucket getter upgrade (if that is still the problem like it was the last two) and then just making due with cheap guys at the 5 since it's the least valuable position and Giannis can cover a chunk of the mins.
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Post#186 » by SIMMIES » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:37 pm

[quote="raferfenix"]Brutal reviews of our offseason here.

However, if Giannis happily signs the supermax and talks up how excited he is to play with Jrue (who also extends), then we still end up in a great spot.

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[quote] Who’s the biggest loser of the offseason so far?

Mahoney: When Milwaukee’s plans to acquire Bogdan Bogdanovic collapsed in strange and spectacular fashion, the Bucks missed out on what could have been the most complete starting lineup in basketball. Ersan Ilyasova, meanwhile, missed out on $7 million in salary that would have been guaranteed if he was traded to the Kings, lost his job when the Bucks subsequently waived him after the deal fell through, and has yet to pick up with any other team. It’s just a brutal turn of events for a journeyman role player, all set into motion because there was either a miscommunication regarding Bogdanovic’s interest in that particular arrangement or an underestimation of the league office where some clear tampering is concerned.[/quote]

[quote] Devine: The Bucks’ front office. By all means, feel free to argue that having Jrue Holiday, D.J. Augustin, Bobby Portis, Bryn Forbes, and Torrey Craig is ultimately better than having Holiday, Bogdan Bogdanovic, and a bench stuffed with minimum-salaried second-round rookies. That may prove to be right! But the “how” of that happening—what looked to be a decisive double move that suddenly fell apart once everyone realized it was blatant tampering—doesn’t necessarily inspire confidence in the brain trust behind it. Nor does the fact that the front office tried to give Pat Connaughton a two-year, $8 million deal (which, given that he was unplayable in the playoffs, is probably already too much), found out that it couldn’t construct his contract that way under league rules, and then tacked on another year and $8 million more. And considering the galactic importance of ensuring that Giannis Antetokounmpo feels confident in putting the rest of his prime in the hands of the Bucks’ decision-makers … well, the sum total of it all just doesn’t seem like a great look, I don’t think.[/quote]

[quote] Uggetti: The Bucks’ front office. I need some kind of oral history or documentary short on what exactly happened with Bogdan Bogdanovic, but I fear that whatever the full explanation is, it will not make the Bucks look better. They recovered decently enough, but that return for Jrue Holiday (who will undoubtedly make them better) still looms over everything. If Giannis signs the supermax extension, then it’s all moot. If he doesn’t, well, it will be nearly impossible to recover from these last few weeks.[/quote]

[quote] What was the worst move?

Tjarks: Whatever happened with the Bogdan Bogdanovic sign-and-trade with the Bucks. Who even cares if a rule was broken? How can it be tampering if the player’s original team wants the deal to go through so they can get an asset out of it? If the league stepped in, the whole thing is a terrible look. The people who are bothered about tampering should be shunned from polite society.[/quote][/quote]


From all I've gathered it was Alex Lasry who excitedly texted this trade to the new younger version of Woj dude, Kevin something, who got a screenshot of it that then went viral.
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Post#187 » by blazza18 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:02 pm

Feel like Brook is our best moveable asset at a time where his value likely only declines from here. Especially if his bubble shooting doesn't continue. Would've been totally fine with moving him for a similar calibre wing/guard and given Baynes a 2/3 year deal. Totally fine with Brook staying but I think he's gotten a huge benefit from playing in a system that suits him.
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Post#188 » by TroyD92 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:17 pm

blazza18 wrote:Feel like Brook is our best moveable asset at a time where his value likely only declines from here. Especially if his bubble shooting doesn't continue. Would've been totally fine with moving him for a similar calibre wing/guard and given Baynes a 2/3 year deal. Totally fine with Brook staying but I think he's gotten a huge benefit from playing in a system that suits him.


I don’t think the system suits him that well honestly. He’s probably one of the last great low post scorers in the game, and he’s being forced to shoot 3pt shots and hang out on the perimeter where his shot is...inconsistent to say the least. I think we agree on where we are at with though. Would have liked to move on, but I get why they didn’t
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Post#189 » by thonnisbeastley » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:25 pm

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Post#190 » by emunney » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:36 pm

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Post#191 » by RiotPunch » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:41 pm

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Post#192 » by emunney » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:44 pm

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Suki project, go get him. Clear out all of the sesame too, apparently.


He's intriguing enough to me that I might stretch DJ to get him. Assuming he's not claimed.
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Post#193 » by Daver » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:56 pm

Anyone on this board interested in a DJ/DDV for lou williams trade read a snipet today about that
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Post#194 » by RiotPunch » Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:59 pm

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Suki project, go get him. Clear out all of the sesame too, apparently.


He's intriguing enough to me that I might stretch DJ to get him. Assuming he's not claimed.

I am not sure I can bear seeing DJ on our salary sheet passed this season, but if we feel like Zhaire is a worthwhile reclamation project, I'd be down. Dude lost ~40 lbs of muscle due to that sesame allergy, pretty crazy.
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Post#195 » by Matches Malone » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:04 pm

Daver wrote:Anyone on this board interested in a DJ/DDV for lou williams trade read a snipet today about that


No thanks. As much as I like Lou and wouldn't mind moving on from DJ, I wouldn't move Donte for him anymore.
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Post#196 » by Daver » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:08 pm

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Daver wrote:Anyone on this board interested in a DJ/DDV for lou williams trade read a snipet today about that


No thanks. As much as I like Lou and wouldn't mind moving on from DJ, I wouldn't move Donte for him anymore.



Anymore why lou isnt that old plus he has a really good contract hell of a shooter
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Post#197 » by RiotPunch » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:12 pm

Daver wrote:
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Daver wrote:Anyone on this board interested in a DJ/DDV for lou williams trade read a snipet today about that


No thanks. As much as I like Lou and wouldn't mind moving on from DJ, I wouldn't move Donte for him anymore.



Anymore why lou isnt that old plus he has a really good contract hell of a shooter

He is 34 years old and a free agent after this year...
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Post#198 » by Daver » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:15 pm

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No thanks. As much as I like Lou and wouldn't mind moving on from DJ, I wouldn't move Donte for him anymore.



Anymore why lou isnt that old plus he has a really good contract hell of a shooter

He is 34 years old and a free agent after this year...



Me bad i misread i thought he had 2 years left at like 8 million a year
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Post#199 » by Bucksfan28 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:41 pm

Lou is a playoff underperformer, the exact opposite of what's needed.
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Post#200 » by giannis and 1 » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:00 am

msiris wrote:In the playoffs vs Miami Brook was preety much useless

He wasn't though..
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