PG Celtics - 4th Quarter Fade

[BigO]

Until/If KM gets back to normal, who else do you want taking the shots? The starting lineup had Prince, Lopez and AJJ totaling 7 points.

If BP had his regular percentage, they win the game.

The Celtics are built for the modern 3 point game. Switchable defenders who can all shoot. The Bucks are built around two and a half superstars.

[BigO]

You can love Giannis and lament his low BBIQ. It's not one or the other

It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.

Giannis is a low bbiq player, especially for a superstar.

He consistently makes the wrong basketball play and plays incredibly selfish way too often.

He doesn't see the plays before they develop or even as they develop. His good passes are regularly half a beat late and off target.

He is a defensive force of nature because of his physical gifts. However, he is constantly caught ball watching, missing rotations and cheating towards the rim to hoard rebounds instead of closing out and boxing out.

If you take the ten best guys in the league, Giannis is probably the lowest bbiq.

This is just hyperbole with no basis in fact.

It's interesting that the posters that say he has a low BBIQ wait until a game where he makes some bad decisions and say nothing the other 90% of his games.

The 3 pointer was a bad decision. I also think he should have taken more shots, given how they were playing him, but that's as much on coaching as on him.

[sidney lanier]

Also, I don’t really care, just found it weird that after the steal by white at the end, Horford was basically telling him not to shoot and then he ended up with the ball and took a lay up at the buzzer. Like why?

Because the Jerk Store called, and they're out of Horfords. That and the Giannis throwdown on the inbounds play earlier tell you who Al Horford is. As much as his father Tito deserved to be loved in Milwaukee for his goofy Thanasis-like basketball skills, Al deserves some Milwaukee FUs, and payback day will come.

[LUKE23]

I love Brook, but he's only impactful defensively against teams that can exploit you via the paint. Boston just wants to get mismatches and switches on the perimeter and jack 3s. So we have Brook either chasing KP or Horford out to the 3 point line, or getting switched 27 feet from the basket onto Tatum and Brown.

The way we beat Boston is by going small. I'd love AJax to get to the level he's playable offensively, but I don't think he's there yet against a team like Boston. I do think a Dame/Green/Midds/Prince/GA lineup could do some damage against them. Brook and Bobby are just really bad matchups against that team.

[LUKE23]

Also - we need to see 15-20 games with KM before we start making any proclamations on anything. We still have two months until the trade deadline and can tinker then if need be.

[Sigra]

He wouldnt become this good without that ego and confidence. It is part of package really.

But what superstar is without ego? Jokic and who else? Prime LeBron maybe?

Duncan???

Sure. Bird too.

[Willie Colon]

He wouldnt become this good without that ego and confidence. It is part of package really.

But what superstar is without ego? Jokic and who else? Prime LeBron maybe?

Duncan???

Sure. Bird too.

I'd say David Robinson, Grant Hill, Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Stockton, Malone, Brandon Roy, Mark Gasol, Hakeem, Yao, Nowitski, Drexler, Ewing maybe?

[Bernman]

The Bucks are 5-5 in close games, but even worse have a -8.8 net rating, & are 26th offensive rating.

Last year the Bucks were 18-10 in close games pre all star game, 5-7 after (w/ Doc).

Hard to think it's a coincidence at this point. Too much blindly trusting stars/vets, which Doc's all about.

[JayMKE]

Bucks had absurd easy schedule to start off last year

[ReddoverKobe]

The Bucks are 5-5 in close games, but even worse have a -8.8 net rating, & are 26th offensive rating.

Last year the Bucks were 18-10 in close games pre all star game, 5-7 after (w/ Doc).

Hard to think it's a coincidence at this point. Too much blindly trusting stars/vets, which Doc's all about.

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

[paulpressey25]

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

Chicken or the Egg.

Do we have a low BBIQ coach who can't get through to his stars?

Or do we have stars who are unreachable on this matter?

[ReddoverKobe]

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

Chicken or the Egg.

Do we have a low BBIQ coach who can't get through to his stars?

Or do we have stars who are unreachable on this matter?

Lets go with a combo of both lol.

[Ron Swanson]

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

Chicken or the Egg.

Do we have a low BBIQ coach who can't get through to his stars?

Or do we have stars who are unreachable on this matter?

Considering a lot of people here had these same exact gripes when Bud was here, I’m not sure you can put this on Doc. Again, I don’t care if he missed his last several shots. Giannis needs to hand the reigns over to Dame in these crunch time situations.

[KidA24]

It can also be true that a player makes a dumb play, but isn't a player with a low BBIQ.

The poster who said that Boston plays him differently, thus minimizing his assists is exactly right. Giannis should have had 50 tonight and shot 15 free throws.

Giannis is a low bbiq player, especially for a superstar.

He consistently makes the wrong basketball play and plays incredibly selfish way too often.

He doesn't see the plays before they develop or even as they develop. His good passes are regularly half a beat late and off target.

He is a defensive force of nature because of his physical gifts. However, he is constantly caught ball watching, missing rotations and cheating towards the rim to hoard rebounds instead of closing out and boxing out.

If you take the ten best guys in the league, Giannis is probably the lowest bbiq.

This is just hyperbole with no basis in fact.

It's interesting that the posters that say he has a low BBIQ wait until a game where he makes some bad decisions and say nothing the other 90% of his games.

The 3 pointer was a bad decision. I also think he should have taken more shots, given how they were playing him, but that's as much on coaching as on him.

I'm not going to waste my time showing you clips and film where teams constantly help one pass away onto Giannis and he barrels into the double team instead of immediately passing it out for an open 3.

It happens ALL THE TIME.

He makes the game harder for himself and his teammates because he doesn't see the floor well.

You have your narrative and you'll stick to it no matter what evidence you are presented with so good luck.

[MickeyDavis]

Giannis has never been a smart player and he's on his 5th coach. It's not coaching. Again, it doesn't mean he's not a great player. He's just not a smart player.

[Bernman]

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

Grief had the same players. He was fired for incompetence. Wasn't exactly setting a high bar. Yet they were great in the clutch & Doc's been bad over samples across 2 seasons.

It is unequivocally his fault he doesn't leave Brook on the bench when he can't match-up. Then he should dissuade Giannis from shooting a 3 at the end, Dame taking an iso step back, firing coming around a screen w/ no opening & having few sets.

[Prez]

I recognize I'm a broken record at this point but seeing Khris move well for the most part and feeling good about him fully returning to form in the coming weeks, I really do feel like we're just a Bobby trade away. I like the rest of the squad, especially when Prince is fully available. The last weakness to fix is a backup big that isn't abominable defensively and knows his role offensively. We do that and I honestly think we can compete with anybody in a series. Don't really give a **** what our record is. Just get to the playoffs with a healthy Giannis/Dame/Khris + the cast of role players we have now except a better fitting backup big than Bobby, and I like our chances.

They'll figure out the late game offense in time, especially as Khris shakes the rust off.

At this point you are suspect that Khris pays you to glaze him

Feel free to disregard my posts then, the same way I don’t take anything you say seriously.

[ShootingtheJ]

I dont think its on Doc that Dame and Giannis took x3 awful shots to end the game. Giannis also missed a FT.

Chicken or the Egg.

Do we have a low BBIQ coach who can't get through to his stars?

Or do we have stars who are unreachable on this matter?

Considering a lot of people here had these same exact gripes when Bud was here, I’m not sure you can put this on Doc. Again, I don’t care if he missed his last several shots. Giannis needs to hand the reigns over to Dame in these crunch time situations.

Giannis is one of the most efficient crunch time scorers in the game. At the end of games, Dame should be screaning for Giannis.

Dame has choked away numerous close games this year with his inability to handle blitz coverage and ill advised foul baiting shots.

[fansinceforever]

Whether it's Dame or Giannis in crunch time, the Bucks need to let the open, capable player be the star.

The Celtics kill us because they constantly do this and, yes, overall their players are better/smarter.

That said, the Bucks should be able to draw attention using Giannis, Dame or Middleton and kick to an open Green, Prince, GTJ, Brook with relative ease on damn near every possession. If they don't collapse then I'll take our odds 1:1 with either Dame or Giannis.

[buckboy]

Sucks to admit that they have no shot against Boston in a 7 game series

Your wrong good god they lost by 4 6 n 5 points with midds missing 2 of the 3 n playing only 15 mins tonight.Once midds gets bavk in that starting lineup this team will be tough.They can beat boston

Absolutely. "No shot" is nonsense.

I'd give em a 35%ish chance if everyone is healthy on both teams.