PG Indy - Scott Foster Special

[Ron Swanson]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

[-Jragon-]

The encouraging part is we look much more talented than the Pacers this year. Also we look like we match them speed-wise now


Discouraged with the sloppiness in which we play. They had so many 3s wide open with no one near them that I thought we had KM and BP back.. wtf defense were we playing that we kept losing a guy on every draw and kick? Boston will destroy us by 30 each game if we keep that up. Bad turnovers leading to dunks and layups too..

[Wonka]

Out of the Pacers 39 threes attempted, 32 were wide open. Yikes.

Doesn’t take much to confuse this team defensively. We don’t have the right personnel to stick with any non geriatric team, and the Pacers knew exactly how to get open three after open three. Genuinely as simple as driving and then a simple cross court pass to the weak side. Rinse. Repeat.

[tydett]

Griffin absolutely had to go, but the mid-season replacement with Doc, with a full 3 year deal, was the tightening of the noose. Should've either let Griffin finish out the year and just taken the lumps, or let Prunty run the time, and then could've actually had a real interview process instead of grabbing a has-been sham.

Regardless, this team pays for the sins of grabbing the ultimate retread who has no ambition except lowering his handicap while schmoozing with owners who inexplicably keep giving him jobs.

[LookToShoot]

Not a foul by Giannis imo, and the three pointer from Nembhard was a two. Really poor officiating.

[drew881]

Really wish we had hired Atkinson and seen what he could have done with Giannis and Dame. I think Giannis is who he is at this point and we aren’t going to see change outside of him thinking he can develop a midrange shot.

[Profound23]

Not a foul by Giannis imo, and the three pointer from Nembhard was a two. Really poor officiating.

The entire fourth quarter. The only thing I will say is we gave the Pacers so many wide open threes that went in-and-out, we probably didn't deserve to win that game. But Kevin Porter Jr. getting smacked around the entire game with no calls as they're getting touch fouls on the opposite end was annoying. Even worse when a player springs to the side awkwardly and the defensive player is given a foul for closing out correctly.

Can't wait to see this team on Saturday and I hope we get them in the playoffs with everyone healthy for both teams.

[emunney]

Why are you all characterizing a corner 3 from a great shooter as "a prayer"? We would be rightfully crushing Giannis if he hadn't made a strong contest. You guys are acting like it was some 3/4 court heave. It was a high-difficulty shot *because* of the contest.

It was great defense, no foul is called if Haliburton doesn't throw himself to the ground in an awkward fashion. The refs controlled that game for Indy for most of the second half. I don't understand how anyone can get on Giannis for that. Let's get back on track and win three of the next four.

I wouldn't say it was great either. It was ok. Haliburton shoots over his right shoulder and that's where Giannis should have been. That doesn't guarantee a foul won't be called but it'd have been an even more difficult shot. Obviously you don't need to worry about him driving.

[Ron Swanson]

It was a bull **** foul call and anyone defending it must have gone to the Scott Foster "make the game all about you" school of officiating. It was also incredibly stupid for Doc to challenge that. Like, ok, if the FT would have tied the game, I think it's more defensible to challenge that. But he's a dumbass for wasting our last timeout on a hail mary as opposed to pocketing it to advance the ball and draw up a half-court play in a 1-point game with either Dame or Giannis having a chance to win it. Can't wait until his doofus ass is gone.

[fansinceforever]

I mean, it's annoying but occupying a player's landing space is a foul.

There are a lot of Pacers fans coming out of the woodwork tonight. I cannot take any Buck's fan seriously that is OK with this call being called against their own superstar player. Haliburton is fading away sideways and diagonal towards the seats and Giannis is just supposed to let him do whatever he wants? Hilarious. It's a sport LOL. Absolutely clown-ish refereeing and reactions from a lot of fans. If the Bucks had decent owners and a decent coach they would gladly take fines and defend the organization and their own pride.

Lol I'm a Pacer fan because I know the rules? It's annoying, I may not even like the call in that moment but I understand why the call was made.

[fansinceforever]

There's a whole lot to be upset with that has absolutely nothing to do with Scott Foster.

[-Jragon-]

Out of the Pacers 39 threes attempted, 32 were wide open. Yikes.

Doesn’t take much to confuse this team defensively. We don’t have the right personnel to stick with any non geriatric team, and the Pacers knew exactly how to get open three after open three. Genuinely as simple as driving and then a simple cross court pass to the weak side. Rinse. Repeat.

I'm guessing their coaches saw something on video and just kept exploiting it.. It feels like a coach mid-game would be able to fix that though.. am I wrong?

[ReasonablySober]

I mean, it's annoying but occupying a player's landing space is a foul.

There are a lot of Pacers fans coming out of the woodwork tonight. I cannot take any Buck's fan seriously that is OK with this call being called against their own superstar player. Haliburton is fading away sideways and diagonal towards the seats and Giannis is just supposed to let him do whatever he wants? Hilarious. It's a sport LOL. Absolutely clown-ish refereeing and reactions from a lot of fans. If the Bucks had decent owners and a decent coach they would gladly take fines and defend the organization and their own pride.

Lol I'm a Pacer fan because I know the rules? It's annoying, I may not even like the call in that moment but I understand why the call was made.

It's especially dumb because this is something Giannis is called for pretty damn regularly when closing out on shooters.

[ReddoverKobe]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

[Ron Swanson]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

It was a perfectly good corner look off of great ball-movement that would have iced the game. Feels like this is a weird criticism. I guess you blame Giannis for kicking it out in the first place? Otherwise I don't know how you expect to get a better shot than that with 8-seconds on the clock.

[j_hilge444]

Giannis should have finished it instead of passing. 100%.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah that seems overly nit-picky to me. Far from a guarantee that Giannis finishes that and he could have just as easily bricked 1-2 FT's or worse, Nesmith draws a charge on him. Giannis was also in great position all by himself underneath the basket to grab the offensive rebound. That possession was exactly what we need to see more of from the half-court offense.

[Bucksmaniac]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

This goes back to Giannis not being able to make a free throw, his finishing has been shakier than it should be recently probably for this reason.

[BigO]

How many games are we gonna have in the playoffs where Giannis and Dame combine for only 34 total points on 28 shots? The loss itself is nothing to worry about, but this just again illustrates how awful of an offensive tactician Doc is. We're so **** easy to defend when only one of those dudes are on the court and the defense can just focus all their energy on getting the ball out of their hands.

It's why our offense in those bench lineups has largely just been giving the ball to Kevin Porter and letting him ISO shoot mid-rangers while praying the defense can pitch a shut out. It's why Kuzma only looks like a serviceable offensive player when there's actual ball-movement and he's cutting to the basket. And most importantly, it's why a team like Cleveland can have the #1 offense in basketball with two ball dominant guards who fit questionably together before Atkinson got there, and why we've completely wasted the Dame/Giannis duo's potential with dumb coaches who don't have a clear philosophy or plan for a modern NBA offense.

Nah. Perhaps you missed the Pacers doubling Dame and Giannis every time they got the ball. You can't do that with a healthy KM on the court. But you can with Kuzma, et al on the court.

And if Dame would have forced a ton of shots, then everyone would have blasted him.

This isn't a coaching problem. There's only one or two coaches who could elevate the talent on this roster and Atkinson isn't one of them, even though I liked him better than the other options last year.

Cleveland's 4 stars have been healthy all year. Not so last year. The coach Cleveland fired is probably going to be the coach of the year in Detroit.

Easy but wrong analysis to blame the coach. If Doc was a rigid coach and stuck to one scheme all the time, you'd have a better argument.

Blaming Horst is a better argument.

[emunney]

Why is Trent taking a three with 8 seconds left on the shot clock, with 20 total seconds left and the bucks up 2? Giannis actually catches the ball with a full head of steam going to the basket off a good pass from dame and only Nesmith in front of him.

It was a perfectly good corner look off of great ball-movement that would have iced the game. Feels like this is a weird criticism. I guess you blame Giannis for kicking it out in the first place? Otherwise I don't know how you expect to get a better shot than that with 8-seconds on the clock.

<sucks teeth> should have run the easy dunk play