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[mlloyd10]

Only Jrue trade that i would do

Bucks get: Jrue/Cam Johnson/Sexton/Kessler
Celtics get: Kuzma/Pat C
Jazz get: Dame/Celtics 2026 1st
Nets get: Collins

Jrue/KPJ/Johnson/Giannis/Kessler with Green/Sexton/Portis off the bench

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if its jrue for kuzma and pat then geez. what did we even give up?

$58 million more in salary. Easy no. Let some other team help Boston fix their $500 million payroll. Jrue in 3 years when he's bought out? Ok. $100 million Jrue now? No. Hell, there isn't much difference between Jrue and Pat now. Pat at $9 million >>>>>> Jrue at $100 million. Don't let sentiments from 4 years ago cloud judgement.

moving kuzma and pat your gonna have to take on more salary to improve. maybe they even toss in picks or something we can flip.

either way we have to do something if the plan is to retain giannis.

whats your better proposal?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Only Jrue trade that i would do

Bucks get: Jrue/Cam Johnson/Sexton/Kessler
Celtics get: Kuzma/Pat C
Jazz get: Dame/Celtics 2026 1st
Nets get: Collins

Jrue/KPJ/Johnson/Giannis/Kessler with Green/Sexton/Portis off the bench

that would be the exact kind of deal im talking about. something like that would be wonderful for us

id rather take on money for a guy like jrue then keep always deal picks. picks we dont have anymore

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

But Jrue having to be the team's 2nd or 3rd option is no bueno for him at this point. Forget the Heat series two years ago, look back at that classic series against Boston in 2022 when if he simply just shot at or near his averages we probably advance and potentially make the Finals (or even just in Game 6!). Then again, it was Miami waiting for us so for all we know Butler would've killed him a year early. If Jrue was a sixth man, you're living rich but even still you can find productive guys like Green and Trent to do something similar and literally shoot a flamethrower.

I love Jrue as he's a consummate professional but he's definitely approaching the end.

yes of course. but im not suggesting he'd be the 2nd or 3rd option. im suggesting hed be a replacement any combination of dame, kuzma and pat c

to replace dame we'd have to give up the 31 pick and probably absorb porzingas with jrue?....but if we simply dumped kuzma and patc in a jrue deal it would be a great move to consider if giannis wants to keep rolling here. obviously if giannis goes out then forget about it.

jrue has slowed down but hes still a winner and a plowhorse. he'd be great to stick in the middle of our young stable of guards for a few years if were still all in. the choices besides him would be alot worse with what we have to offer imo

kpj/rollins
green/trent
jrue/kuzma/patc
giannis/portis
porzingas/sims

im down to roll with that bunch if the numbers worked. maybe it makes sense for boston with tatum and dame coming back around the same time if theyre saving dough

if its jrue for kuzma and pat then geez. what did we even give up?

With no Dame, who would be the second option? KPJ? With that roster he's basically forced into that role.

2nd options arent important to me. depth, shooting and defense is.

depth can mean anybody can step up. example would be the performances trent gave us this playoff season. load up the team with guys like that around giannis and its the exact kind of model many of us have been suggesting

the proposed deal above were cam and sexton come would be even better

[German Athens]

I think I’d rather have Collins than sexton.

[Ron Swanson]

The whole point is you'd be pushing for an asset (that 28th pick or a future protected 1st) in that Jrue deal. Thought that was pretty obvious. Jrue's a bad contract but I'm not even close to saying he's "washed" yet. These last 2-3 months just prove how quickly people's perceptions and views on players change. Like yeah, Dame tore his Achilles and now he's a negative asset. Jrue took a clear step back this year and now he's a negative asset. Porzingis was hurt and has durability question marks, but when he plays he's still a very good, borderline All-Star caliber player. Those aren't guys you're just gonna find with the MLE, vet minimums, and 2nd round picks in this draft. That's the gamble. Sure as hell beats giving up actual assets for the Collin Sextons of the world, aka a proven mediocre player with little upside at this point of his career.

[German Athens]

I think Jrue will be a lot like the guard version of Horford. Everyone hated horford on Philly, but then everyone also complained for the opposite reason when he was on his next contract in Boston.

Jrue is grossly overpaid, but he’s still a smart on and off-ball defender, a capable enough scorer as a role player, and a good offensive connector.

Bigs who don’t get injured will age better than guards, because they’ll still have a size advantage over half the players in the game, but I think Jrue has a really sturdy frame and takes great care of his body.

I’m not outright advocating we trade for him, though. That can’t be our only move, and I’d want back more than the #28th pick to take him on.

[EasyE31]

Bucks get: Jrue, KD, 2025 Celtics 1st
Celtics get: Kuzma, Pat
Suns get: Dame, 2031 Bucks 1st

If we are going to acquire Jrue we have to make sure he's the 3rd or 4th option at best on offense. Just let him be our 2021 PJ Tucker (defense and corner 3s).

Jrue/KPJ/Rollins
Trent/Green
KD
Giannis
Portis/Sims

Jrue could play some minutes at the 3 as well to balance out that rotation. Still pretty top heavy roster. Would have to use vet mins plus the C's 1 this year to add some depth.

[Ron Swanson]

Bucks get: Jrue, KD, 2025 Celtics 1st
Celtics get: Kuzma, Pat
Suns get: Dame, 2031 Bucks 1st

If we are going to acquire Jrue we have to make sure he's the 3rd or 4th option at best on offense. Just let him be our 2021 PJ Tucker (defense and corner 3s).

Jrue/KPJ/Rollins
Trent/Green
KD
Giannis
Portis/Sims

Jrue could play some minutes at the 3 as well to balance out that rotation. Still pretty top heavy roster. Would have to use vet mins plus the C's 1 this year to add some depth.

You obviously do this if you can but you'd have to have that Boston pick and our 2032 swap going to Phoenix. Even then I doubt Phoenix does this.

[MickeyDavis]

#28 is a nothing burger. Lottery picks themselves often yield crap let alone late round picks. Bottom line for me is I don't want to get (a lot) older AND add a bunch of salary that goes out 3 years. Boston with a new owner, an upcoming $500 payroll and Tatum out for the year is going to be desperate to shed salary. I'm not bailing them out. They'd have to give up way more than Jrue and a nothing pick. If they want to thrown in Pritchard (they won't) I'm listening. I'm all for trading Kuzma but not to add salary and get older.

KD would be getting us older but I'd take him in the right deal. I don't think we have what it takes to get him though. And he's looking for a juicy extension.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

jrue can play 1-4 on both sides of the ball as an average or better player thru the next 2 years anyway. his smarts can make the entire defense better even if his on ball skills have eroded. he can shoot and handle the basketball. hes EXACTLY what this team needs as a connector and the current version of him is probably better than dame was next to giannis in actual effect.

jrue knows how to play with giannis and dame couldnt figure it out.

and we dont need a second option performance out of him. we just need good smart basic basketball that gets guys their shots in their spots. id consider any deal for jrue right now if it was a "buy low" so to speak

[German Athens]

I’m thinking like ‘26 top-10 protected 1st to take on Jrue. I doubt Boston would tank next year, but I think there’s a good chance that’s a pick in the teens.

Then I think you could dangle our own ‘26 swap to a very good team with multiple firsts this year, to get a later one. OKC for #24?

Then we’d have #24, ‘26 Bos 1st, ‘31 1st, and ‘32 swap to dangle and have way more options now.

[tedbrogen]

Guess I’m the only one who is viewing KP as a positive asset in a trade where you take on Jrue and get some pick compensation along with shedding salary of guys who are injured or unplayable.

My view is if he’s somehow healthy, he a great fit next to Giannis and was the guy who absolutely unlocked the championship ceiling for the Celtics. Plus he’s on an expiring contract so if he’s not healthy, you trade him at the deadline to another team looking to shed salary and get back even more assets.

I’m totally open to other ideas as long as they are not focused on giving up future assets for Colin Sexton. Bucks already have a better version of him in KPJ.

[machu46]

Only Jrue trade that i would do

Bucks get: Jrue/Cam Johnson/Sexton/Kessler
Celtics get: Kuzma/Pat C
Jazz get: Dame/Celtics 2026 1st
Nets get: Collins

Jrue/KPJ/Johnson/Giannis/Kessler with Green/Sexton/Portis off the bench

Absolutely zero chance we get this sort of return for our crap lol.

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[Slim Charless]

Bucks get: Jrue, KD, 2025 Celtics 1st
Celtics get: Kuzma, Pat
Suns get: Dame, 2031 Bucks 1st

If we are going to acquire Jrue we have to make sure he's the 3rd or 4th option at best on offense. Just let him be our 2021 PJ Tucker (defense and corner 3s).

Jrue/KPJ/Rollins
Trent/Green
KD
Giannis
Portis/Sims

Jrue could play some minutes at the 3 as well to balance out that rotation. Still pretty top heavy roster. Would have to use vet mins plus the C's 1 this year to add some depth.

You obviously do this if you can but you'd have to have that Boston pick and our 2032 swap going to Phoenix. Even then I doubt Phoenix does this.

Suns absolutely say no.

That trade works if you switch Beal for KD. There's no reason to take on Achilles-less Dame while giving up Durant.

[mlloyd10]

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[mlloyd10]

Only Jrue trade that i would do

Bucks get: Jrue/Cam Johnson/Sexton/Kessler
Celtics get: Kuzma/Pat C
Jazz get: Dame/Celtics 2026 1st
Nets get: Collins

Jrue/KPJ/Johnson/Giannis/Kessler with Green/Sexton/Portis off the bench

Absolutely zero chance we get this sort of return for our crap lol.

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Just curious, who's not getting enough value here? I forgot to include that Nets are getting #28 too

[DingleJerry]

I hadn't even thought of Beal since its not like I'm looking to trade for him. But say PHX tears it down, KD demands out which I'd be surprised if he doesn't. Say he goes to Houston or wherever. If PHX wants to shed salary and teardown more a Beal for Dame thing could work as a foundation. They clear a year of salary. We take on a worse contract but at least the guy can play.

Issue is it looks like PHX doesn't own their pick next year so no reason to fully tank. Without KD there if Beal stays healthy he could maybe rehab is value a bit going into his expiring year next offseason. Chances are though they'll get a competent player or two back from Hous though, so put them with Booker and you shouldn't be at risk of giving up a top 5 pick (unless its crazy lottery luck and it jumps from like 12 to 3).

I wouldn't do it if I was them, but in theory after 26 they'd be off KD and Beals contracts and out of cap hell.

[tedbrogen]

Beal will refuse the trade. He’s set on retiring in the desert even if they don’t want him around.

[RiotPunch]

Only Jrue trade that i would do

Bucks get: Jrue/Cam Johnson/Sexton/Kessler
Celtics get: Kuzma/Pat C
Jazz get: Dame/Celtics 2026 1st
Nets get: Collins

Jrue/KPJ/Johnson/Giannis/Kessler with Green/Sexton/Portis off the bench

Absolutely zero chance we get this sort of return for our crap lol.

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Just curious, who's not getting enough value here? I forgot to include that Nets are getting #28 too

The Nets want two 1sts for Cam (which is steep) but #28 is a fake 1st. We would need to send the '31 1st their way. Collins is neutral value.