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A good cheap target - probably for the offseason more than this season is Mo Wagner - especially if he can add another 10 to 15 good lbs of muscle in the offseason. I think he's had a bit of a maturity issue - gets too high and too low - that he's starting to overcome. Extra poundage would help him on the boards and defending more physical centers. He's more athletic than given credit for, has 3 point range, scores well off the pnr, but he's needs more consistency. I think the key the rest of the season will be seeing if he can get his foul rate down and his rebounds up. There's talent there to be at least as good as Portis, imo.
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We have 7 rotation players at this point, but the 8 and 9 spots have been killing us all year. We'd still have a worse record just due to growing pains, league trends, scheme adventures, etc, but I suspect we'd feel a ton better right now if we magically swapped DJA/Forbes/Craig for Hill and Wes.
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Ruzious wrote:A good cheap target - probably for the offseason more than this season is Mo Wagner - especially if he can add another 10 to 15 good lbs of muscle in the offseason. I think he's had a bit of a maturity issue - gets too high and too low - that he's starting to overcome. Extra poundage would help him on the boards and defending more physical centers. He's more athletic than given credit for, has 3 point range, scores well off the pnr, but he's needs more consistency. I think the key the rest of the season will be seeing if he can get his foul rate down and his rebounds up. There's talent there to be at least as good as Portis, imo.
Wagner would enter as my least favorite Buck since Grievis Vasquez in the "I don't care how they play, I don't want to cheer for the person" category. Can't stand him or his shtick one bit.
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Any interest in bringing Tony Snell back if he gets bought out in Atlanta?
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My dream is Washington being too greedy and failing to deal Beal at the deadline, cutting him afterwards, then him seeing a 35 minute starting spot waiting for him on the Bucks, joins for pennies.
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tydett wrote:Ruzious wrote:A good cheap target - probably for the offseason more than this season is Mo Wagner - especially if he can add another 10 to 15 good lbs of muscle in the offseason. I think he's had a bit of a maturity issue - gets too high and too low - that he's starting to overcome. Extra poundage would help him on the boards and defending more physical centers. He's more athletic than given credit for, has 3 point range, scores well off the pnr, but he's needs more consistency. I think the key the rest of the season will be seeing if he can get his foul rate down and his rebounds up. There's talent there to be at least as good as Portis, imo.
Wagner would enter as my least favorite Buck since Grievis Vasquez in the "I don't care how they play, I don't want to cheer for the person" category. Can't stand him or his shtick one bit.
And Giannis 100% would not approve.
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crowhead76 wrote:Any interest in bringing Tony Snell back if he gets bought out in Atlanta?
I'd definitely take him on a minimum but not with the last spot. If we open more spots and cap via trades however...
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DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Wut we've got here is... faaailure... to communakate.
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Ruzious wrote:thonnisbeastley wrote:Kings: Middleton, DJW
Bucks: Barnes, Haliburton, Bjelica, Whiteside
Haliburton/Augustin
Jrue/DDV/Forbes
Barnes/Pat C/Craig
Giannis/Bjelica
Brook/Portis/Whiteside
Interesting, but I don't think Kings do it because they love Haliburton, and there's no reason for them to go after a veteran like Middleton - it's not going to make them a contender for anything.
Depends on how the Kings view Middleton, you're right. But he'd be an upgrade over fellow veteran Barnes who will cost $20M the following two seasons, and they get a return on Bjelica/Whiteside who they are unlikely to re-sign after the season. They may love Haliburton, but they have Fox/Hield signed long-term, and they could potentially be willing to make a move like this because it upgrades their starting lineup and could push them back into the playoffs (at least next season). Have to give up big pieces for an all-star when no draft picks are involved. Also, this is the Kings we're talking about.
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coolhandluke121 wrote:DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Couldn't agree more. On top of what you said, he has great hands, and wonderful basketball instincts (BBIQ) which is part and parcel to his rebounding and defensive ability.
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smauss wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Couldn't agree more. On top of what you said, he has great hands, and wonderful basketball instincts (BBIQ) which is part and parcel to his rebounding and defensive ability.
Yup, I'd rather clone him then trade him.
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coolhandluke121 wrote:DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Ok not the main problem but you cant consistently (and dontes been pretty consistently a non factor on O)expect him ro be a no show as our starting SG last night another putrid night for him.
You have to expect more from that position on a nightly basis then 20 mins n 4 points or 25 mins n 2 points.You all critisized WMs lack of O is donte really that much better.
Say what you will but donte is only starting here by default(not saying much) if they had anyone more capable he would be where he belongs as a 6th man.
Hopefully horst sees that to
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Dick Tate wrote:My dream is Washington being too greedy and failing to deal Beal at the deadline, cutting him afterwards, then him seeing a 35 minute starting spot waiting for him on the Bucks, joins for pennies.
LOL WHAT. Calling this a dream is being generous.
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ShootingtheJ wrote:smauss wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Couldn't agree more. On top of what you said, he has great hands, and wonderful basketball instincts (BBIQ) which is part and parcel to his rebounding and defensive ability.
Yup, I'd rather clone him then trade him.
Ok have 4 dontes on the floor n giannis would enjoy seeing what kind of O that brings nightly
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DDV is fine but certainly not untouchable. If the right trade comes along (subjective of course) it's adios Donte.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Daver wrote:coolhandluke121 wrote:DDV is #4 in the entire NBA for RPM among sg's and #2 for wins added. I mean how friggin' myopic do you have to be about the almighty PPGZ! to not realize how good he is? Even on his worst offensive nights he's still an average SG at worst because of his defense and rebounding.
Thinking he's remotely part of the problem is as bad as thinking Jabari was going to be part of the solution, for the same reason of being just utterly and completely blind to all other aspects of the game besides scoring.
Ok not the main problem but you cant consistently (and dontes been pretty consistently a non factor on O)expect him ro be a no show as our starting SG last night another putrid night for him.
You have to expect more from that position on a nightly basis then 20 mins n 4 points or 25 mins n 2 points.You all critisized WMs lack of O is donte really that much better.
Say what you will but donte is only starting here by default(not saying much) if they had anyone more capable he would be where he belongs as a 6th man.
Hopefully horst sees that to
Every single thing here is horribly and hilariously wrong. Somehow I actually underestimated how myopic you are about DDV's scoring average, as you continue to astound by going lower every time I think you've finally reached the bottom.
Wut we've got here is... faaailure... to communakate.
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DDV is definitely more of a 6th man than the starting SG on a contender. That being said, he’s been better than Wes was last season and still has a couple years of development left. Wish he was a little bit taller, but he’s still a baller.
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MickeyDavis wrote:DDV is fine but certainly not untouchable. If the right trade comes along (subjective of course) it's adios Donte.
Well, that could be said for anyone on this roster. FWIW MD, I was not at all happy when he was included in Bogy trade tho.
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smauss wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:DDV is fine but certainly not untouchable. If the right trade comes along (subjective of course) it's adios Donte.
Well, that could be said for anyone on this roster. FWIW MD, I was not at all happy when he was included in Bogy trade tho.
Yup, outside of Giannis you listen to offers for any of our guys. That doesn't mean you'll get fair value but you certainly take the call. We may very well stand pat, it takes two to make a trade, but you have to at least try. This is not a roster you sit on and hope somehow the magic begins with the playoffs.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
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Bucks out - Lopez, Craig, Nwora, Merrill, DJA, DJW
Bucks in - Oladipo, Bamba
Mavs out - Johnson, 1st rd pick
Mavs in - Lopez, Craig
Hou out - Dipo
Hou in - Johnson, DJW, Merrill, Nwora
Orl out - Bamba
Orl in - DJA, Mavs 1st
Solid 8 man rotation, maybe more if Diakite contributes anything or we get a solid buyout signing.
Bucks in - Oladipo, Bamba
Mavs out - Johnson, 1st rd pick
Mavs in - Lopez, Craig
Hou out - Dipo
Hou in - Johnson, DJW, Merrill, Nwora
Orl out - Bamba
Orl in - DJA, Mavs 1st
Solid 8 man rotation, maybe more if Diakite contributes anything or we get a solid buyout signing.
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