ATL - Trade Deadline 2/10/22

[jschligs]

Some of you on this board seriously overrate the Cavs. The Cavs are a good solid playoff team, but holy **** lol. They're not better than Miami and like soxperry said, unless they acquire a Giannis/Embiid/KD level player their ceiling will be limited. Mobley is good, but I highly doubt he reaches MVP level good like Giannis/Embiid/KD..

I don't see any way the Cavs make it out of the first round of the playoffs this season unless they end up playing the Bulls.

I've said it before, I don't worry about the Bulls or Cavs in the playoffs. It's Philly, Brooklyn and Miami that are the real competition.

[SirChurros]

The Cavs are the type of team who can give you some problems in the playoffs, but you ultimately beat in 6. That's not a team I want to see in the first round.

[drew881]

What kind of offers are the Pacers getting for Turner? Would Brook, Donte, Nwora and some kind of really down the line future pick work?

[FrieAaron]

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I definitely thought the Knicks would be one of those teams that couldn't replicate their success last season but, damn.

[paulpressey25]

Some of you on this board seriously overrate the Cavs. The Cavs are a good solid playoff team, but holy **** lol. They're not better than Miami and like soxperry said, unless they acquire a Giannis/Embiid/KD level player their ceiling will be limited. Mobley is good, but I highly doubt he reaches MVP level good like Giannis/Embiid/KD.

Think you're sleeping on Darius Garland. Dude is an all-star who is only 22. They might have enough with the Garland, Allen, Mobley trio.

[paulpressey25]

What kind of offers are the Pacers getting for Turner? Would Brook, Donte, Nwora and some kind of really down the line future pick work?

He's sort of been forgotten, probably because of the injury. So many of the NBA pods the past few days have focused on them dealing Sabonis.

[Profound23]

Some of you on this board seriously overrate the Cavs. The Cavs are a good solid playoff team, but holy **** lol. They're not better than Miami and like soxperry said, unless they acquire a Giannis/Embiid/KD level player their ceiling will be limited. Mobley is good, but I highly doubt he reaches MVP level good like Giannis/Embiid/KD.

Think you're sleeping on Darius Garland. Dude is an all-star who is only 22. They might have enough with the Garland, Allen, Mobley trio.

Agreed....Garland is so underrated. If Mobley reaches his potential that team is going to be good for a while.

[Ron Swanson]

Mobley's a legit generational two-way prospect, but nah, Cavs are still a couple years away from being real championship contenders. This isn't a Phoenix situation. They don't have a HoF floor general like Chris Paul to guide that team through the hurdles of multiple playoff series. They're some veteran experience and maybe one legit piece away from being a real problem, which is why they're right in "going for it", but wrong if they're thinking that Caris LeVert was the "one piece" missing.

[paulpressey25]

The Ben Simmons trade market is coming back to Morey. Would appear he can bargain with:

Nets for Harden
Wizards for Beal
Blazers - who knows, but Lillard maybe
Kings - They always want to deal
Pacers - Sabonis and Brogdon

Still continue to be very concerned about them as our primary competition in the East. They'll end up with someone meaningful to plug into that lineup.

Always thought the Kings would pony up, but IMO Beal may end up being the route they go.

[WRau1]

The Ben Simmons trade market is coming back to Morey. Would appear he can bargain with:

Nets for Harden
Wizards for Beal
Blazers - who knows, but Lillard maybe
Kings - They always want to deal
Pacers - Sabonis and Brogdon

Still continue to be very concerned about them as our primary competition in the East. They'll end up with someone meaningful to plug into that lineup.

Always thought the Kings would pony up, but IMO Beal may end up being the route they go.

None of those make Philly any better than just having Simmons content & playing, which is ultimately what would happen if they just hold on a little longer.

[paulpressey25]

None of those make Philly any better than just having Simmons content & playing, which is ultimately what would happen if they just hold on a little longer.

He's done in Philly. The bridge was not only burned, but the roads to the bridge were leveled.

But put Beal on the current squad? That's going to be ugly for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

[Ron Swanson]

They're not getting Beal at the deadline for Simmons. You guys haven't been paying attention to recent trends with star players getting dealt. GM's of teams with disgruntled stars are realizing now that the better asset play is to leverage as many future unprotected picks and swaps and as far out as possible.

If I'm Washington, or any organization that's looking at a complete tear down, why would I want an incredibly flawed player like Simmons on a max contract who I know has zero potential to be my franchise cornerstone? At least as the main value piece coming back in the deal? Give me 3 unprotected firsts, and 2 pick swaps spread out over the next 5 years, instead of Simmons and their 2022 1st. Knew right away that Morey botched this when the report leaked that he wouldn't include Maxey and Thybulle. Ever since fleecing OKC for Harden a decade ago, Daryl's been a "have his cake and eat it too" guy despite the GM'ing reality that you always need two to tango.

[ShootingtheJ]

What kind of offers are the Pacers getting for Turner? Would Brook, Donte, Nwora and some kind of really down the line future pick work?

We don't have a 1st round pick that eligible to be traded. You can only trade picks in a 6 year window.

Pacers will get good offers for Turner.

[drew881]

What kind of offers are the Pacers getting for Turner? Would Brook, Donte, Nwora and some kind of really down the line future pick work?

We don't have a 1st round pick that eligible to be traded. You can only trade picks in a 6 year window.

Pacers will get good offers for Turner.

Will they? He has a stress fracture in his foot, so there is a decent amount of risk. However, for us, if we know Lopez is not coming back, that makes the deal a lot less risky than us.

[ShootingtheJ]

What kind of offers are the Pacers getting for Turner? Would Brook, Donte, Nwora and some kind of really down the line future pick work?

We don't have a 1st round pick that eligible to be traded. You can only trade picks in a 6 year window.

Pacers will get good offers for Turner.

Will they? He has a stress fracture in his foot, so there is a decent amount of risk. However, for us, if we know Lopez is not coming back, that makes the deal a lot less risky than us.

They don't have to deal him.

[WRau1]

None of those make Philly any better than just having Simmons content & playing, which is ultimately what would happen if they just hold on a little longer.

He's done in Philly. The bridge was not only burned, but the roads to the bridge were leveled.

But put Beal on the current squad? That's going to be ugly for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

Beal doesn't make them any better than when Simmons was on that squad.

[Matches Malone]

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I definitely thought the Knicks would be one of those teams that couldn't replicate their success last season but, damn.

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[Prez]

None of those make Philly any better than just having Simmons content & playing, which is ultimately what would happen if they just hold on a little longer.

He's done in Philly. The bridge was not only burned, but the roads to the bridge were leveled.

But put Beal on the current squad? That's going to be ugly for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

Beal doesn't make them any better than when Simmons was on that squad.

Disagree strongly, regular season is whatever but Beal is a way more dangerous playoff piece on that team than Simmons has been for them imo.

And the Simmons/Beal comp isn’t even super relevant imo, they’ve played without Simmons all season and are the 4 seed with a real shot at 1st. You’d just be adding Beal to that, and that makes them a huge problem for anyone.

[FrieAaron]

I think as a hypothetical fit Simmons is better on Philly, but Beal is certainly an upgrade over DNP Simmons.

[KidA24]

None of those make Philly any better than just having Simmons content & playing, which is ultimately what would happen if they just hold on a little longer.

He's done in Philly. The bridge was not only burned, but the roads to the bridge were leveled.

But put Beal on the current squad? That's going to be ugly for the rest of the Eastern Conference.

It was so bad they even leveled a bridge in Pittsburgh too. Just to be safe.