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Post#1821 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:24 am

The leaks nailed it all, but I don't care. I was still yelling. That was awesome.
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Post#1822 » by Mags FTW » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:31 am

Really thought someone of more significance than Little Finger was going to die.
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Post#1823 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:35 am

GoT

So here is the list of spoilers that hit last november. It's amazing how many details they got:

Jon meets Dany at E03.He is summoned by Dany,who wants him to bend the knee,but he refuses.Eventually,with the help of Tyrion,he swears fealty in exchange her help in the war against the WW.Gradually they grow to admire each other and they have sex at the end of episode 7.They will be together for most of the season.
Sansa realises she's being played by LF(he tries to set the two sisters against each other) by the end of the season with help from Bran.LF won't survive this.Arya will be the executioner.
Both Sansa and Arya will survive.
Arya has become a "killing machine". First thing she does this season is kill all the remaining Frey sons. After that she heads towards Winterfell and she encounters Nymeria. She arrives at WF at E04.
Dorne will be out of the way in the first couple of episodes.
The Wall will fall at the end of the season, while Jon and Dany have sex.
Jon won't find out his true parentage this season. Bran and Sam will piece it together though.
Dany is going to Dragonstone first. This will happen at the end of E01.
I didn't exactly get that, but it seems that the procedure of bringing the wall down will be a big part of the season.
Viserion will die at the Night's King hand and be reborn as his mount.
Jon's real name is Aegon. He doesn't want people to know that he was resurrected. So he stops Davos from telling Dany.
Gendry is at KL making weapons. Davos makes a joke about him "still rowing" when he sees him.
Olenna aknowledges that she was behind Joffrey's assassination.
Varys doesn't want the throne. He's genuinely acting out of a desire to have a king or queen rule that will look out for the interests of the people of Westeros rather than just their own
Beric Dondarrion will be killed by the WW
Benjen will make a cameo
The "Northern girl" will be Alys Karstark.
We'll get a flashback from Rhaegar and Lyanna's wedding.
Jorah won't have any scenes at Essos next season. He will be cured at Oldtown by Sam. He reunites with Dany by E05.
Bran will cross the Wall during E01.He will arrive at WF by E03.
The Lannisters take on the Martells and the Tyrells pretty easily during the first couple of episodes. Jaime turns out to be a great commander. It seems that Dany and co have an unsuccessful siege of KL.
Jon needs to provide proof that the Undead are real. So he goes beyond the Wall with the Hound,Beric,Thoros and Tormund to capture one. They succeed but Beric and Viserion die in the process. They bring the undead to KL(they have a temporary truce with the Lannisters) and they show him to Cersei at the Dragonpit. She loses her ****. She agrees to unite their armies against the WW.But at the last moment,she betrays them and doesn't send troops,so that the WW will thin out their forces. Jaime is mad and leaves her. He rides North to join the armies.
Cersei is pregnant.
Euron's fleet destroys Yara's, kills 2 of the Sand Snakes and captures Ellaria. Theon abandons Yara. The ironborn finally lose all respect for him. He has a small reunion scene with Jon. Jon tells him that he won't kill him because he saved Sansa.
Mel has only a few appearances through the season.
Dany burns a few rules who didn't bend the knee, including the Tarlys. Tyrion and Varys worry about her turning into a Mad Queen.
Tyrion and Jon have a few scenes together.
Meera heads back home after she delivers Bran at WF.
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Post#1824 » by chuckleslove » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:54 am

Pretty satisfying end to an up and down season.

Some of you above should use the spoiler tag imo :P
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Post#1825 » by FrieAaron » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:15 am

It was good, but it feels like the show has lost it's edge. I would assume
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they're going to have to start killing people off next season. The only people of note they killed off this season was a bad guy (littlefinger) and the Snakes, who were terrible. Unless I'm missing something.


On the episode itself -
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that Theon fight was stupid. He won because the guy was confused that he didn't have any balls?
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Post#1826 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:35 am

That finale was miles better than episode 6. Pretty damn good response to the disappointment of last week.
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Post#1827 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:36 am

FrieAaron wrote:It was good, but it feels like the show has lost it's edge. I would assume
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they're going to have to start killing people off next season. The only people of note they killed off this season was a bad guy (littlefinger) and the Snakes, who were terrible. Unless I'm missing something.

I do agree with this. People need to die next season, everyone feels too safe.
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Post#1828 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:38 am

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Post#1829 » by freewhitemoon » Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:46 am

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such an unfitting end for littlefinger..... he's been the mastermind the whole time and that's how he falls??
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Post#1830 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 5:39 am

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In general, this was a good ep but someone important other than LF needed to die. Tormund doesn't cut it for me. For those that think he isn't dead, I can't imagine how he'd survive both the wall coming down and an army of WWs.

Littlefinger's death was obvious but sometimes obvious is still the way to go.

#Snownaryas finally happened which was good but why did Tyrion seem upset about it? I never got the sense that he was in love with Dany.

GOT got me going crazy waiting for Clegane Bowl. Can't wait for that.

Lena Headey's portrayal of Cersei is the best on the show. I've never seen someone play stone cold better.

Theon-Don't care. Yara is kind of cool I guess, and Euron is kind of fun.

The sly smile that Hound gave when Brienne told him that those who appose Arya need protection more than she does was heartwarming.

Predictions for next season? I feel like some are obvious. Jaime will kill Cersei for instance. I wonder what the future of the Stark family will be. Sansa is the lady of winterfell but who will she marry to keep the lineage alive? Will she even make it. I think Arya ends up with Gendry, uniting the Baratheon and Stark families which is kind of nice for the memory of Ned and Robert, who were both so likable.

Obviously Dany will he pregnant. I wonder if Jon will even find out he's the rightful heir. Either way I don't think he is interested in the iron throne. Tyrion really threw me at the end though so I don't know what part he'll play.

So much to get to with only 10 or so hours left and that's not accounting for most of the lesser character arcs. Hard to imagine not feeling short changed by the last season.
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Post#1831 » by blazza18 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:53 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
FrieAaron wrote:It was good, but it feels like the show has lost it's edge. I would assume
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they're going to have to start killing people off next season. The only people of note they killed off this season was a bad guy (littlefinger) and the Snakes, who were terrible. Unless I'm missing something.

I do agree with this. People need to die next season, everyone feels too safe.


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It wouldn't have made any sense after balking on Tyrion moments earlier, but damn I wanted Cersei to go through with her threat on killing Jaime. Would've been the first real shock killing in seasons.
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Post#1832 » by hege53190 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:28 am

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The episode was better than last week but if I had to wait for season 8 to end to be able to binge it. I wouldn't be disappointed. I don't really care that it could take 18 months to 2 years for the next season. The episode proves that the small moments are what makes Game of Thrones. It is the human interaction. And I loved the look Littlefinger gave Bran when Bran quoted Littlefinger's betrayal and last words to Ned.

Still the Northern plot was dumb this season. Everything they said they knew from episode 1 this season.

I am glad they didn't shy away from Tyrion being the dumbest person in Westeros this season. Who would have known you couldn't trust Cersei? Certainly not her brother that has known her, and hated her, her entire life. I am happy they came up with that convoluted plot to risk their best warriors to try to capture a Wight with absolutely no escape plan. It only cost them time AND THE WEAPON TO BRING DOWN THE WALL.

At what point does Dany realize that Tyrion is actively working against her? Oh he isn't? He is just that stupid? Well then.
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Post#1833 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:02 pm

hege53190 wrote:
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The episode was better than last week but if I had to wait for season 8 to end to be able to binge it. I wouldn't be disappointed. I don't really care that it could take 18 months to 2 years for the next season. The episode proves that the small moments are what makes Game of Thrones. It is the human interaction. And I loved the look Littlefinger gave Bran when Bran quoted Littlefinger's betrayal and last words to Ned.

Still the Northern plot was dumb this season. Everything they said they knew from episode 1 this season.

I am glad they didn't shy away from Tyrion being the dumbest person in Westeros this season. Who would have known you couldn't trust Cersei? Certainly not her brother that has known her, and hated her, her entire life. I am happy they came up with that convoluted plot to risk their best warriors to try to capture a Wight with absolutely no escape plan. It only cost them time AND THE WEAPON TO BRING DOWN THE WALL.

At what point does Dany realize that Tyrion is actively working against her? Oh he isn't? He is just that stupid? Well then.


True about Tyrion as much as it pains me to say it. Was at his absolute peak after his trial speech and offing his dad and his hoe. Severely downhill since.
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Post#1834 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:55 pm

Whelp....

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GoT officially has lost its soul and transformed into another one of the many cliche, fantasy action-adventure romps since Lord of the Rings. The way in which Littlefinger was taken down was both predictable and entirely anti-climactic. There was absolutely zero suspense or emotion in a scene where the mastermind behind the events of the previous 5-6 seasons was killed. I mean he literally started the War of the 5 Kings with his scheming.

I also didn't know that the Dragons' fire breath was an actual **** laser beam that could cleave through a quarter mile thick wall of ice and stone in like....less than 10 seconds. Sure, it was entertaining (Explosions! Dragons! Blue Fire!), but I'll say it. It's lazy story-telling. Vintage "introduce ridiculous plot-armor to further story" type stuff. I just expect better from a show that's built itself on avoiding those very same kinds of fantasy genre tropes.
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Post#1835 » by emunney » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:05 pm

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I thought the juxtaposition of Bran revealing Jon as Dany's legitimate nephew with Jon and Dany having sex was really funny. Totally distracted from both important things.
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Post#1836 » by xTitan » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:23 pm

freewhitemoon wrote:
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such an unfitting end for littlefinger..... he's been the mastermind the whole time and that's how he falls??

Spoiler:
It's the perfect ending for a coward who relies on backroom dealings, overplayed his hand and died like the coward he is.
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Post#1837 » by Max Green » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:31 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Taken from the Media Lounge board re: Arya/Sansa

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snaquille oatmeal wrote:to the Aria/Sansa debaters check this out:

Foreshadowing: We have quotes from as far back as S6 suggesting that Arya will protect Sansa.
“No one can protect me." – Sansa, S6E9
“You need better guards.” – Arya to Sansa, S7E4


Protecting each other: After LF suggests Sansa use Brienne to intervene in the Arya-Sansa catfight, Sansa sends Brienne away and says that she has trusted guards here already. Sansa is not afraid of Arya, nor Littlefinger, and she doesn’t want the honorable Brienne involved in their lying and schemes.


Arya is trained in stealth: Arya was trained by assassins. She is far too stealthy to let LF know that he is being followed, unless she did this deliberately. In S7E4, Arya walks onto Brienne and Pod sparring just as Brienne says, “Don’t go where your enemy leads you.” In S7E6, the directors deliberately show us Sansa opening and closing a very squeaky door as she goes into Arya’s bedchamber. Yet Arya is able to sneak up on Sansa without a single noise.


Staged fights: When Arya confronts Sansa about the Northern lords talking badly about Jon in S7E5, the door is wide open. Similarly, when Arya confronts Sansa about the letter from S1, Arya projects her voice just as she is reading the letter. It’s almost as if they want someone to hear their fights.


The Game of Faces: In what seems to be the most psychotic Arya scene, Arya basically threatens to cut off Sansa’s face and pretend to be her. The entire scene is Arya playing the Game of Faces, presenting lies as truths. She even says that they are playing!

She plays this game when she tells Sansa that she remembers Sansa standing on Ned’s execution stage – Sansa fought and screamed, and Arya knows this. Arya played the game when she told Sansa she would never serve the Lannisters – Arya served as Tywin’s cupbearer.

Arya tells Sansa she wonders what it would be like to wear her face and her pretty dresses, to be Lady of Winterfell – we are beaten over the head since S1 that Arya HAS NEVER WANTED ANY OF THESE THINGS.

Arya is playing the game of faces, and when she realizes Sansa hasn’t caught on to her lies, she hands her Littlefinger’s dagger, symbolically saying, “I trust you and want you to protect yourself from LF’s lies.”



The third eye: Do we really think there hasn't been a single off-script scene where Bran tells them, "Hey, uh, LF kinda started the war of the Five Kings by lying about this dagger, betrayed our father, and is essentially the reason our whole family is dead." We hear crows when LF comes out of the crypts with Jon, when Arya enters LF's bedchambers, and again when LF and Sansa are talking in S7E6. These noises are very deliberate.


https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/6var9w/main_spoilers_the_game_of_faces_why_arya_doesnt/?sort=top


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Post#1838 » by Max Green » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:41 pm

xTitan wrote:
freewhitemoon wrote:
Spoiler:
such an unfitting end for littlefinger..... he's been the mastermind the whole time and that's how he falls??

Spoiler:
It's the perfect ending for a coward who relies on backroom dealings, overplayed his hand and died like the coward he is.


Spoiler:
Yup, what better way for him to die then by the hands of the person who he has been grooming since they've met. He pretty much taught her all of his tricks hoping to manipulate her into loving him instead she used it against him and ended his life.
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Post#1839 » by emunney » Mon Aug 28, 2017 2:49 pm

Remember when Community lost Dan Harmon for a season and when he came back, all the characters would refer to the stuff that happened during the gas leak? That's what GoT is now. Gas Leak GoT.
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Post#1840 » by freewhitemoon » Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:14 pm

xTitan wrote:
freewhitemoon wrote:
Spoiler:
such an unfitting end for littlefinger..... he's been the mastermind the whole time and that's how he falls??

Spoiler:
It's the perfect ending for a coward who relies on backroom dealings, overplayed his hand and died like the coward he is.


Spoiler:
Have no problem with him dying from a failed scheme. I just felt that the plot was extremely poor and it should've taken a lot more to outscheme him. It's the same with the whole capture a wight saga. They needed something done in the plot and just chose a lazy way to do it

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