Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions

[JayMKE]

Bucks need to aim higher or just stand pat if our big deadline move is using our last remaining assets for no upside back up big. Not seeing any boxes being checked, not buying idea what our offense is missing is a guy to catch lob passes and dunk.

[JayMKE]

So just checking spotrac. They have another year of AJ Green for next season. Is that right?

It would be risky but what if we used AJ Green as the asset to unload salary and bring back the bigs we need
DET AJ Green, Marjon, Pat C
MKE Reed, Duren (no idea what these guys have for value, more of a hypothetical example to unload salary and get the 4/5 type guy we need)

Bucks need AJ more, should offer him early extension before he’s more expensive

[Bernman]

So just checking spotrac. They have another year of AJ Green for next season. Is that right?

It would be risky but what if we used AJ Green as the asset to unload salary and bring back the bigs we need
DET AJ Green, Marjon, Pat C
MKE Reed, Duren (no idea what these guys have for value, more of a hypothetical example to unload salary and get the 4/5 type guy we need)

It's terrible for both teams, like the Richards deal, only more extreme.

Duren's is a highly rated prospect, fair or not (I think he's overrated). They're not giving him up for contracts and a solid role guy. But that solid role guy may be our most valuable player outside the core 4 because he's a 2-way player, so I don't get it.

BTW, Detroit literally can't trade Reed this year cuz he's recently re-signed (after they waived him).

[M-C-G]

So just checking spotrac. They have another year of AJ Green for next season. Is that right?

It would be risky but what if we used AJ Green as the asset to unload salary and bring back the bigs we need
DET AJ Green, Marjon, Pat C
MKE Reed, Duren (no idea what these guys have for value, more of a hypothetical example to unload salary and get the 4/5 type guy we need)

It's terrible for both teams, like the Richards deal, only more extreme.

Duren's is a highly rated prospect, fair or not (I think he's overrated). They're not giving him up for contracts and a solid role guy. But that solid role guy may be our most valuable player outside the core 4 because he's a 2-way player, so I don't get it.

BTW, Detroit literally can't trade Reed this year cuz he's recently re-signed (after they waived him).

Like I said, hypothetical situation to use AJ Green to unload salary and come back with the big we are missing. Insert your own version.

That said I don’t want to move Green. I love the guy, but he might be enough value to unload salary and like I said bring back a useful big.

[Bernman]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

[ShootingtheJ]

One of the reasons of the Bucks interest in Richards is his ability as a roll man/lob threat. Lopez has good hands, but when he screens at 35', Dame has to wait for him. Richards can give Dame the high screen he loves and needs, and then sprint to the hoop, forcing the defense into an impossible decision: let Richards dunk, or leave Green, Middleton, Trent, or Prince open in the corner, with Giannis on the other side making a 45 cut (which gives him a 1v1 and a head of steam attacking the basket).

I don’t know why but this post reminds me of when Miles Plumlee caught a couple Giannis lobs in March and April and we paid him 50 million bucks.

Agree, but one of the things to like about Richards is he makes just $5 million a season, both this year and next.

[randy84]

Nick Richards talk is making me nervous Horst will do something stupid. I will riot if that first gets traded

Maybe shouldn’t had traded FIVE 2nd round picks for Jae Crowder dumbass

Ironic that one of the guys that got cut to make that trade work was Goga Bitadze. Bucks should've just traded one second for him.

[Ron Swanson]

The $5 million salary is nice but like, the more important thing is actually getting a playoff difference-making type player. I just don't really think "backup big when Giannis and Brook sit" is even in our Top-3 biggest needs right now. Anyone thinking he's any sort of "switchable" big is gonna be pretty disappointed. Dude is 100% a traditional rim-running 7-foot Center.

[DingleJerry]

Yea this guy has no need here when we have the other 3 bigs and Giannis should be handling more 5 minutes. I'd still be guessing he's only in discussion to come in if Brook is moved in another deal. At which point we've all said we need a thick big as backup and for certain matchups to ease Giannis load.

We have 3 bigs making what a combined 90ish mil in todays NBA when most teams only play one big at a time, no way we need a fourth. But if one making 25 mil goes out having a guy come in for 5 mil as a role player makes sense

[Plossum]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

This is where trading 5 2nds for Jae Crowder comes back to bite you.

[JayMKE]

Horst should be beaten with a sock full of oranges for what he’s done to this team. Fire him yesterday.

[Matches Malone]

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[rayallenscalves]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

This is where trading 5 2nds for Jae Crowder comes back to bite you.

I don't think they'd get anybody to take Conny even if he was expiring this year. Add on another whole season at that price tag, not a chance. And, as noted, it's not like they have any sweeteners that anyone would want.

Except ... Andre Jackson, Jr. I know AJax has a lot of fans here, and I love the defense, but I just don't buy that the offense will ever develop. AJ and Trent can more than fill those minutes. If including AJax is what's needed to get rid of Conny, and then therefore opens up another trade to fill a bigger need (switchable 3/4 or 4/5), I'd do it.

[BigO]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

Assuming trading PC is true, that is an interesting subject, unlike pages on end of posts about trading for non needle moving scrubs from non-playoff teams:

1) I fully support Doc giving, Rollins, Green and AJJ plenty of court time to see what they can do. But at this point, I see only one of them playing regular playoff minutes (Green).

2) I've always thought that after this experiment, PC would be in the playoff rotation (10 minutes a game), because there are no other options. I wouldn't be comfortable with Rollins or AJJ getting regular playoff minutes this year.

3) So if PC is really going to get dumped, the Bucks have to have a specific player(s) in mind to trade that is experienced and will move the needle. That's isn't Richards or Blanton, but actually proven players.

4) It will be interesting whether the Bucks view their weakness as defense or offense.

[BigO]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

This is where trading 5 2nds for Jae Crowder comes back to bite you.

I don't think they'd get anybody to take Conny even if he was expiring this year. Add on another whole season at that price tag, not a chance. And, as noted, it's not like they have any sweeteners that anyone would want.

Except ... Andre Jackson, Jr. I know AJax has a lot of fans here, and I love the defense, but I just don't buy that the offense will ever develop. AJ and Trent can more than fill those minutes. If including AJax is what's needed to get rid of Conny, and then therefore opens up another trade to fill a bigger need (switchable 3/4 or 4/5), I'd do it.

I agree with this, but if the Bucks can't bundle their players, then this option is unavailable until they get rid of PC.

[JayMKE]

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If all it comes down to is what team will extend him then it’s really just a list of 1 and that team has to be able to trade a supermax replacement level player with a NTC to do it. Jimmy doesn’t have a lot of options, I really doubt he doesn’t report or try to cause problems on a new team since that would threaten his next contract.

[humanrefutation]

Attaching AJax in order to dump PC would be insane.

[yb90]

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IDK if this means they have another deal in place w/ a team that can't take much more salary thru space/trade exceptions, or they don't know they can get under the 2nd apron thru aggregating enough salary to certain teams.

But I like they're trying to get under. Maybe this is more about not losing another early '30's 1st rd pick.

One route they could take but they would need to have a back up plan is to use Prince to get some more second rd picks to dump Pat. A team like Sac or any competing second apron team can slid him into their cap space as a minimum trade.

Trade Prince for a few seconds to Sacramento who needs an upgrade over Crowder. Dump Pat with the picks you gain.

The next step I would make is go after LaRavia, Aldama, or Camari with some of the future 1sts that are now open to them being a 1st apron team. Try to grab a cheap but definite rotation player using Marjon salary while keeping your core Chemistry.

If they are okay with trading Portis, I would see if the Clippers would do a swap for Mann.

[Baddy Chuck]

There isn't a guy people have talked about for years more than Terance Mann that I am irrationally confident would do absolutely nothing for this team.

[Frank Nova]

Terrance Mann rhymes with Jeremy Lamb so it’s gotta be legit.