Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Livingston Back on a 1 Year Deal - Page 76

[Dick Tate]

If Paul George is next, he’s the one.

[skbucks1985]

If Philly was going to stretch George they probably would've done so already. If he has another season like this one, I think that's very likely next summer. I think they're going to take a chance on him returning to form rather than taking the ~18 million in savings they'd get this season if they stretched him now.

[tedbrogen]

Wish we could have gotten Smart. 5.5M is a steal for a bet on him returning to even 80/90% of his peak. Article says we had "serious conversations" with him so at least we tried.

Bucks could only give him $3.3M or $3.8M or whatever they had left from the room exception.

Lakers likely also guaranteed him a starting role.

[tedbrogen]

If Philly was going to stretch George they probably would've done so already. If he has another season like this one, I think that's very likely next summer. I think they're going to take a chance on him returning to form rather than taking the ~18 million in savings they'd get this season if they stretched him now.

If they wouldn’t have gained access to actual cap space or needed it to duck the second apron, no reason to rush it.

[emunney]

I'd offer a 2 way deal to new FA Blake Wesley. Long PG who's progressing as a shooter and younger than Mark Sears.

I know the Bucks liked him pre-draft.

[ShootingtheJ]

I'd offer a 2 way deal to new FA Blake Wesley. Long PG who's progressing as a shooter and younger than Mark Sears.

I know the Bucks liked him pre-draft.

I did not know that. Interesting.

[Rstuedes24]

Wesley seems like a really solid pickup no??

[Rstuedes24]

Wesley seems like a really solid pickup no??

Based on what I'm reading it sounds like Spurs fans think highly of him

[drone3]

Wesley doesn't look like a PG. Likes to attack the rim off cuts

[IrishRainbow]

Also should we be calling Kevin Porter Jr. "Scoot" now?

These interviews were the first I've heard that nickname I think.

Too many Scoots…,I like Sukuta

[Wisky4life]

Im guessing Kuzma, Livingston and some others will be trade deadline bait.

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[BroncoBuck]

The biggest thing with Turner for me is I expect him not to start every offensive possession 35 feet out because he can't get up the court.

I will forever have the images of Brook Lopez clapping his hands asking for the ball 3 feet away from Damian Lillard in the process of shooting the ball 2 feet behind the 3 point line burned into my brain.

The Dame/Brook pairing was a disaster. Dame/Giannis gets the bad rep because of the lack of pick and rolls (which has never really been Giannis m.o.) but I will forever believe Dame/Brook was doomed from the start.

[-Jragon-]

Can anyone tell me the timeline to resign Khris if he happened to get bought out? Some people are saying February but I thought someone here had said it didn’t mean calendar year but seasonal

Hopefully never

[-Jragon-]

Im guessing Kuzma, Livingston and some others will be trade deadline bait.

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I'm not convinced Kuz is gone before Bobby

[Plossum]

Wish we could have gotten Smart. 5.5M is a steal for a bet on him returning to even 80/90% of his peak. Article says we had "serious conversations" with him so at least we tried.

It’s a good deal for the Lakes but at the same time I don’t expect he’ll be much of a difference maker for them.

[emunney]

Im guessing Kuzma, Livingston and some others will be trade deadline bait.

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[machu46]

I really hope we utilize Turner well, and don’t just force him to be a pop only guy.

One thing I’m excited about is his straight line mobility. It’s much better than Brook’s(lateral mobility is also better, but I don’t think to the same degree).

Brook was mostly a predictable cover - get to the three point line. I’m hoping with Turner he’ll be able to keep the defense off balance a little more because of his increased ability to be a popper or roller in any possession. Read and react should be key, and I hope we maximize it.

I think they will. The main issue using Brook as a roller consistently is his glacial straight line speed (as you point out) limiting his ability back to that deep drop position that we kind of based our whole defense around.

I think some of y'all are really underrating Brook as a roll man. Sure he was slow, but he also has impeccable hands, great feet, and good awareness of how to position himself to create passing windows. I'm not saying he's better than Turner as a roll man (though I think their numbers do generally bear that out), but I don't really think Turner will be a game changer in terms of rolling to the basket.

I think his mobility will be felt much more on defense, being able to closeout on shooters/rotate occasionally instead of just tapping his feet outside the paint every few seconds like Brook did.

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[midranger]

I really hope we utilize Turner well, and don’t just force him to be a pop only guy.

One thing I’m excited about is his straight line mobility. It’s much better than Brook’s(lateral mobility is also better, but I don’t think to the same degree).

Brook was mostly a predictable cover - get to the three point line. I’m hoping with Turner he’ll be able to keep the defense off balance a little more because of his increased ability to be a popper or roller in any possession. Read and react should be key, and I hope we maximize it.

I think they will. The main issue using Brook as a roller consistently is his glacial straight line speed (as you point out) limiting his ability back to that deep drop position that we kind of based our whole defense around.

I think some of y'all are really underrating Brook as a roll man. Sure he was slow, but he also has impeccable hands, great feet, and good awareness of how to position himself to create passing windows. I'm not saying he's better than Turner as a roll man (though I think their numbers do generally bear that out), but I don't really think Turner will be a game changer in terms of rolling to the basket.

I think his mobility will be felt much more on defense, being able to closeout on shooters/rotate occasionally instead of just tapping his feet outside the paint every few seconds like Brook did.

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Brook was a great roll man.

We just couldn’t use him in that capacity much, because it’d leave us 4 on 5 defensively way too much. That’s a big part of why he was 30 feet from the rim above the break so much. Just to be able to get back to drop position before the other team is laying it in

[Bernman]

Because Bucks cutting Dame somehow equals dumb while Suns cutting Beal equals smart.

I mean why did our own fans underplay it. Old Skool here adamantly wanted to frame it that way. Frank Madden (fam) did this as well. It's like he needs to fulfill the role of team cynic at this point.

Yeah like emunney said the key piece is that having it applied at the end of the year means it doesn’t increase access to your exceptions/cap space when you can actually use it. It’s not nothing but from everything I’ve seen it doesn’t just wipe out dead money immediately, which most people were assuming (it’s a weird rule, I had to re-read the CBA language twice). Not cynicism just being realistic.

It's not being realistic that half a year of a lack of value renders the other 4 and a half yrs useless. In fact that's what we should care much more about, cuz not only is it 10 times as long, it's more in the years we're actually going to need it, as we won't be dirt cheap around Giannis & Turner.

[jschligs]

4 years ago today I experienced the greatest non-family oriented moment of my life. Giannis 50 burger to win in 6. Deer district was electric. I could’ve made thousands on the tickets I bought after game 4 but I said hell no, I want to witness history.

That said, the last few years have been tough exits, but at least we’re competing and ownership does what it can every off season and trade deadline. Much better than the slog years.