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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1861 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:01 am

xTitan wrote:If the Bucks move Bogut they want Jackson to go with him.....moving Bogut now is not a necessity....I hope Hammond is smart enough to realize he hold all the cards and no deal needs to be made now.


well thats how its going to happen i know hammond wont let me down.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1862 » by xTitan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:01 am

BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1863 » by xTitan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:02 am

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xTitan wrote:moving Bogut now is not a necessity.....


It isn't. But I don't see the offers being better in June. You just have to find that one team that will in your mind "overpay". And if that team presents itself now, you have to take the offer and go.


There are several teams already interested in Bogut, that won't change in the off season....get a bidding war going on, that is good business.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1864 » by Sherman Douglas » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:02 am

It's going to make me sad to see Bogut go. I like him more than any Buck since Ray Allen.

Jennings on the other hand, good riddance if it happens.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1865 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:03 am

xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings


really? you know the gms?
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1866 » by SheedsWeed » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:04 am

I'm still hoping the Bucks somehow trade for Cousins.

Honestly though, I don't see the Bucks trading Bogut at all. Probably won't trade anyone.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1867 » by MiltownMadness » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:04 am

xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings

i like how you say that like its a fact.

i could easily see toronto giving up there first.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1868 » by xTitan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:04 am

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xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings


really? you know the gms?


He isn't that good, you don't have to be real smart to see that.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1869 » by smooth 'lil balla » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:05 am

I would be thrilled with any deal that nets us Curry. If we don't have to give up Jennings to do it, even better. I've been calling for the Bogut/Jennings for Curry, Biedrins, Thompson for a while and I'll continue to do so.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1870 » by trwi7 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:06 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings

i like how you say that like its a fact.

i could easily see toronto giving up there first.


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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1871 » by europa » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:06 am

MiltownMadness wrote:i could easily see toronto giving up there first.


I think the Raptors would give strong consideration to trading their first for Jennings. I know I'm beating a dead horse here but that's the team that's going to pursue him most heavily in my opinion.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1872 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:07 am

really? you know the gms?[/quote]

He isn't that good, you don't have to be real smart to see that.[/quote]

you dont think hes that good but like i said its good to know you are in the mind of other gms
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1873 » by BuckPack » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:07 am

xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings


What's your definition of high? Can't see them getting a top 3 pick and I don't see them moving him for less than 10. Lot of grey area in between.

They don't have to move Jennings. And they could certainly wait until after the lottery.

Besides Ilyasova, they don't need to make any long term decisions in these next two days. That's an equally huge decision that isn't getting as much attention.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1874 » by bucksbrewers3 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:09 am

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xTitan wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Bucks won't trade Jennings for less than a lottery pick. As they shouldn't. But unless they were pretty confident it was going to be a higher lottery pick, I doubt they do it.


nobody is going to trade a high lottery pick for Jennings


What's your definition of high? Can't see them getting a top 3 pick and I don't see them moving him for less than 10. Lot of grey area in between.
They don't have to move Jennings. And they could certainly wait until after the lottery.

Besides Ilyasova, they don't need to make any long term decisions in these next two days. That's an equally huge decision that isn't getting as much attention.


exactly
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1875 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:10 am

BuckPack wrote:Besides Ilyasova, they don't need to make any long term decisions in these next two days. That's an equally huge decision that isn't getting as much attention.

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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1876 » by BuckPack » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:13 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
BuckPack wrote:Besides Ilyasova, they don't need to make any long term decisions in these next two days. That's an equally huge decision that isn't getting as much attention.

:giveup:


I suppose DB has been hammering this away in the other thread, but the Bucks need to decide whether he's a long term piece or not. They don't want to lose him for nothing.

Given that, it shouldn't be surprising to hear the Bucks wanting to rid themselves of Gooden/SJax. Tells me that they're leaning towards trying to re-sign him, but I don't know.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1877 » by eagle13 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:14 am

to me it seems you use BJ (small salary) to move Jax or Gooden for a marginal not awful player/contract instead of the garbage that you'd have to take back for Jax or drew alone. Then you trade Bogut unencumberd w/ dead weight for only positive assets.
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1878 » by trwi7 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:15 am

BuckPack wrote:They don't want to lose him for nothing.


Seems like that would be the preferred route with this front office.
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Post#1879 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:15 am

BuckPack wrote:Given that, it shouldn't be surprising to hear the Bucks wanting to rid themselves of Gooden/SJax. Tells me that they're leaning towards trying to re-sign him, but I don't know.

So he's not our center of the future? :(
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Re: Woelfel - 70% bogut's gone (new MJS trade signal-page 11 

Post#1880 » by LUKE23 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:16 am

Neither of Bogut or BJ should be used to clear salary, unless clearing that salary does not dilute the top asset in the deal.

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