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Post#1861 » by M-C-G » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:50 am

Sure let me try again. Do teams in the playoffs playing at home have a higher winning % than road teams. I believe they do.

I fear I am coming off condescending and that isn’t my intent. If home teams get the first two games AND home teams have a significant advantage in winning % in playoffs, I’m making the argument that is a secondary benefit of a HCA. If that makes sense.


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Post#1862 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:43 am

M-C-G wrote:Sure let me try again. Do teams in the playoffs playing at home have a higher winning % than road teams. I believe they do.

I fear I am coming off condescending and that isn’t my intent. If home teams get the first two games AND home teams have a significant advantage in winning % in playoffs, I’m making the argument that is a secondary benefit of a HCA. If that makes sense.


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It's hard to prove that teams playing at home have a higher winning % because they're playing at home, or it's simply because they are better teams.

The teams that play at home in the POs include a higher percentage of teams with HCA, which means include a higher % of better teams. It's proven that teams that finished at the top in the RS (and therefore have HCA) usually win the whole thing. Therefore they are better teams. Or maybe they win it all because they have HCA? :D

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Post#1863 » by M-C-G » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:41 am

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M-C-G wrote:Sure let me try again. Do teams in the playoffs playing at home have a higher winning % than road teams. I believe they do.

I fear I am coming off condescending and that isn’t my intent. If home teams get the first two games AND home teams have a significant advantage in winning % in playoffs, I’m making the argument that is a secondary benefit of a HCA. If that makes sense.


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It's hard to prove that teams playing at home have a higher winning % because they're playing at home, or it's simply because they are better teams.

The teams that play at home in the POs include a higher percentage of teams with HCA, which means include a higher % of better teams. It's proven that teams that finished at the top in the RS (and therefore have HCA) usually win the whole thing. Therefore they are better teams. Or maybe they win it all because they have HCA? :D

It's a chicken or the egg thing, statistics is a brain ****


My brain says
-playing at home better than on the road
-getting first two games playing at more favorable location is good
-winning first two games gives you a significant advantage in winning a series

I feel like the math proves it but with a new baby I am too lazy and frankly don’t care enough to see if I am correct.

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Post#1864 » by emunney » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:42 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Sure let me try again. Do teams in the playoffs playing at home have a higher winning % than road teams. I believe they do.

I fear I am coming off condescending and that isn’t my intent. If home teams get the first two games AND home teams have a significant advantage in winning % in playoffs, I’m making the argument that is a secondary benefit of a HCA. If that makes sense.


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It's hard to prove that teams playing at home have a higher winning % because they're playing at home, or it's simply because they are better teams.

The teams that play at home in the POs include a higher percentage of teams with HCA, which means include a higher % of better teams. It's proven that teams that finished at the top in the RS (and therefore have HCA) usually win the whole thing. Therefore they are better teams. Or maybe they win it all because they have HCA? :D

It's a chicken or the egg thing, statistics is a brain ****


You could always look at the more balanced regular season schedule, where NBA home teams win about 60% of their games.
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Post#1865 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:59 am

emunney wrote:You could always look at the more balanced regular season schedule, where NBA home teams win about 60% of their games.

I know, but when I mention RS half the people on realGM want to throw something at me because it's fake basketball or something.
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Post#1866 » by emunney » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:46 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
emunney wrote:You could always look at the more balanced regular season schedule, where NBA home teams win about 60% of their games.

I know, but when I mention RS half the people on realGM want to throw something at me because it's fake basketball or something.


Home team wins more often in the playoffs, likely because they tend to be the better team on top of HCA. HCA is definitely real though.
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Post#1867 » by RogerMurdock » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:04 pm

The other thing about HCA that is not often taken into account when determined how much of an advantage it really is, is that the home players are much more aware of court idiosyncrasies like the thickness of the coats of paint, where to dribble to avoid the spongy spot on the floor, locations of trap doors, and exactly how to activate big head mode.
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Post#1868 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:52 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:The other thing about HCA that is not often taken into account when determined how much of an advantage it really is, is that the home players are much more aware of court idiosyncrasies like the thickness of the coats of paint, where to dribble to avoid the spongy spot on the floor, locations of trap doors, and exactly how to activate big head mode.

I'm assuming green font, but floor thing obviously isn't true any more since the Bucks rotate floors.

But being able to sleep at home, workout/stretch in the huge workout facility, have your stuff ready to go, etc are nice. I travel 40% for work and I'm definitely more productive at my desk. I don't have to the minor mental wear and tear of finding where the coffee is, adjusting my seat, etc. Things guys are professionals so it probably doesn't effect there work but there is a small advantage of being home and having your routine in place for a few days. Its different now since everyone will have a routine for a month or 2 before the playoffs really get going.
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Post#1869 » by RogerMurdock » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:28 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
RogerMurdock wrote:The other thing about HCA that is not often taken into account when determined how much of an advantage it really is, is that the home players are much more aware of court idiosyncrasies like the thickness of the coats of paint, where to dribble to avoid the spongy spot on the floor, locations of trap doors, and exactly how to activate big head mode.

I'm assuming green font, but floor thing obviously isn't true any more since the Bucks rotate floors.



Each floor still has its own spongy spot, though, so my point still stands. I guess part of the trick is adjusting to the varying degrees of sponginess, like dry car wash sponge to baby bathtub animal shapes to stairs-are-made-of-oatmeal.
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Post#1870 » by skones » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:00 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
RogerMurdock wrote:The other thing about HCA that is not often taken into account when determined how much of an advantage it really is, is that the home players are much more aware of court idiosyncrasies like the thickness of the coats of paint, where to dribble to avoid the spongy spot on the floor, locations of trap doors, and exactly how to activate big head mode.

I'm assuming green font, but floor thing obviously isn't true any more since the Bucks rotate floors.



Assuming green font because trap doors and big head mode are real things.
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Post#1871 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:04 pm

Patty C has Covid-19 and isn't with the team.
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Post#1872 » by Toodles1980 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:05 pm

Read on Twitter


Look like Pat also tested positive. Hoping he gets healthy.
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Post#1873 » by FlagsFlyForever » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:12 pm

On an individual game basis, HCA is obviously real. I never tried to argue against that. My point is that in a best-of-seven series, HCA only favors the team with four home games if the series goes to Game 7. If the series ends in six games, then both teams will have had three home games each. If the series ends in five or four games, the better team won easily and home court wasn't a factor.
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Post#1874 » by Chuck Diesel » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:28 pm

Absolutely bizarre that Pat hasn’t been with the team & no one’s reported it. Brian Windhorst called the NBA “fascist” in regards to their lack of transparency. Shady.
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Post#1875 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:28 pm

skones wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
RogerMurdock wrote:The other thing about HCA that is not often taken into account when determined how much of an advantage it really is, is that the home players are much more aware of court idiosyncrasies like the thickness of the coats of paint, where to dribble to avoid the spongy spot on the floor, locations of trap doors, and exactly how to activate big head mode.

I'm assuming green font, but floor thing obviously isn't true any more since the Bucks rotate floors.



Assuming green font because trap doors and big head mode are real things.

Whoops. I was skimming and just read the first couple and missed the last ones, which if you played in some crappy gyms like I have, it is a small possibility
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Post#1876 » by drew881 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:30 pm

emunney wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Sure let me try again. Do teams in the playoffs playing at home have a higher winning % than road teams. I believe they do.

I fear I am coming off condescending and that isn’t my intent. If home teams get the first two games AND home teams have a significant advantage in winning % in playoffs, I’m making the argument that is a secondary benefit of a HCA. If that makes sense.


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It's hard to prove that teams playing at home have a higher winning % because they're playing at home, or it's simply because they are better teams.

The teams that play at home in the POs include a higher percentage of teams with HCA, which means include a higher % of better teams. It's proven that teams that finished at the top in the RS (and therefore have HCA) usually win the whole thing. Therefore they are better teams. Or maybe they win it all because they have HCA? :D

It's a chicken or the egg thing, statistics is a brain ****


You could always look at the more balanced regular season schedule, where NBA home teams win about 60% of their games.


Seems to me that we could just look at the home/road record of the team that loses the series. That would remove the "they're simply the better team" argument. Take a history of first round series, and see every 4-1, every 4-2, and 4-3 outcome. Analyze where those wins came from (home or away). My guess is the majority come in games 3 and 4 after going down 0-2.
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Post#1877 » by emunney » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:30 pm

Who else hasn't been mentioned or pictured at Disney? Safe to assume they tested + at this point.
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Post#1878 » by jschligs » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:35 pm

Toodles1980 wrote:
Read on Twitter


Look like Pat also tested positive. Hoping he gets healthy.


Thought I remember someone saying he was in a wedding over the 4th. Could’ve potentially got it then.

I’ve found that a lot people are only serious about COVID when it’s convenient of them. More then a few friends have been outspoken saying everyone should wear masks, and then they have a wedding and nobody is wearing a mask. Guess that one day doesn’t count because it’s a special day.
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Post#1879 » by emunney » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:37 pm

Wes
Giannis
Khris
Donte
Ersan
Frank
Sterling
GH
Lopezez
DJ
Thannies
Marvin
Korver

Bled and Connaughton positive.

Guess that just leaves Cam.
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Post#1880 » by Chuck Diesel » Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:38 pm

Could see Cam being left behind for non Covid/basketball reasons.

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