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Post#1861 » by skones » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 pm

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skones wrote:Worth noting, that if Bogdan Bogdanovic is his "hand picked" addition, GM Giannis is not good. Bogdanovic has his warts. At no point in his three year career has he been a particularly impactful player. It's weird, that in this age of analytics, everyone basically threw them away to fawn of Bogdan Bogdanovic. I get what he brought from a shot creation standpoint, but even then with that specialty skill, the guy needs a screen to get down hill.

Bogdan would be the perfect addition for the Bucks considering the contract and the fact that we are talking about the Bucks. His skillset is actually perfect for someone that plays with Giannis.

I am actually impressed with Giannis if Bogdan was indeed his suggestion.


There are probably 60 or 70 players in this league better than Bogdan. THAT'S the guy you want to target? I'll aim higher.
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Post#1862 » by machu46 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:50 pm

Side note: if Giannis wanted Bogdanovic because he feels like his swagger and confidence makes him a guy he can go to war with, he’s gonna absolutely love Jrue Holiday.


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Post#1863 » by TD75 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:52 pm

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skones wrote:Worth noting, that if Bogdan Bogdanovic is his "hand picked" addition, GM Giannis is not good. Bogdanovic has his warts. At no point in his three year career has he been a particularly impactful player. It's weird, that in this age of analytics, everyone basically threw them away to fawn of Bogdan Bogdanovic. I get what he brought from a shot creation standpoint, but even then with that specialty skill, the guy needs a screen to get down hill.

Bogdan would be the perfect addition for the Bucks considering the contract and the fact that we are talking about the Bucks. His skillset is actually perfect for someone that plays with Giannis.

I am actually impressed with Giannis if Bogdan was indeed his suggestion.


There are probably 60 or 70 players in this league better than Bogdan. THAT'S the guy you want to target? I'll aim higher.

Sure bring AD or KD to Milwaukee. Giannis has been waiting for 7 years. Also get them with 4/72M

Let's be real now.

Also Bogdan does not need a screen to get downhill that is absolutely wrong.
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Post#1864 » by mke_design » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 pm

I'd love to hear from Jrue soon.
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Post#1865 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 pm

Enough with the GiannisGM stuff. The report was that Bogdan was his preferred choice. That obviously doesn't mean he was his only choice. Otherwise, we would have heard by now that he was planning on leaving. He's not playing GM; he is asking the Bucks to make smart moves. The Bucks are extraordinarily lucky that Giannis is loyal - that... is our best chance in keeping him.
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Post#1866 » by Matches Malone » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:57 pm

I'm sad again now. lol
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Post#1867 » by skones » Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:58 pm

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Sure bring AD or KD to Milwaukee. Giannis has been waiting for 7 years. Also get them with 4/72M

Let's be real now.

Also Bogdan does not need a screen to get downhill that is absolutely wrong.


You realize jumping from 60 or 70 guys to MVP candidates is a straw man right? That's not "being real now."
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Post#1868 » by theFireBlanket » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:11 pm

I do think everyone willing to deal DDV without putting up a fight & Giannis himself will find out how bubble sighted it was...*** Hell Sacramento just let him go for nothing, they'd have budged on DDV!

He's having his coming out season, for all to see this time. He'll have swag & impact both sides of the ball. The Silver *ahem* lining to all of the Bogdan cacophony & botchery is that we don't have to watch Donte become the evidently better player in Sacramento.
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Post#1869 » by skones » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:29 pm

Ruzious wrote:Enough with the GiannisGM stuff. The report was that Bogdan was his preferred choice. That obviously doesn't mean he was his only choice. Otherwise, we would have heard by now that he was planning on leaving. He's not playing GM; he is asking the Bucks to make smart moves. The Bucks are extraordinarily lucky that Giannis is loyal - that... is our best chance in keeping him.


Or we could be realistic. The franchise will do anything Giannis wants until he signs the supermax. The number one priority is making him happy. Like it or not, that makes him defacto GM. Nobody is implying that he's making harsh demands.
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Post#1870 » by raferfenix » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:31 pm

If Giannis preferred Bogdan over Jrue it’s not great that we traded most of our future firsts for Jrue while screwing up Bogdan due to the media fallout.

Maybe Giannis doesn’t really prefer Bogdan over Jrue, and even if he did, he certainly could be persuaded about Jrue considering he has a different tier of talent.

Am waiting for stories about Giannis being elated about the Holiday acquisition, regardless of whether they were texting this offseason. Giannis hitting up our second round pick probably means similar kind of reports with Jrue are coming.

But it’s also possible Giannis is pissed and leaking some stuff to the media before making nice for the cameras.
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Post#1871 » by zimpy27 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:37 pm

Bogdan blowing up was bad but the new signings look good. I only would have changed 2 things:

- Augustin should have split the MLE with Rondo and Rondo should have started (Rondo would have taken 5m for the opportunity to start). Rondo is a half court playmaker who is great in the playoffs and has proven great chemistry with Jrue even when he didn't have a 3 shot like he has now.

- Connaughton should have been paid 2m less than he got per year.



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Post#1872 » by mke_design » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:38 pm

raferfenix wrote:If Giannis preferred Bogdan over Jrue it’s not great that we traded most of our future firsts for Jrue while screwing up Bogdan due to the media fallout.

Maybe Giannis doesn’t really prefer Bogdan over Jrue, and even if he did, he certainly could be persuaded about Jrue considering he has a different tier of talent.

Am waiting for stories about Giannis being elated about the Holiday acquisition, regardless of whether they were texting this offseason. Giannis hitting up our second round pick probably means similar kind of reports with Jrue are coming.

But it’s also possible Giannis is pissed and leaking some stuff to the media before making nice for the cameras.


He was elated about Pat C so... :lol:
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Post#1873 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:41 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Donte is almost 24...dude is 2 years away from him prime. why are people assuming he has this vast amount of potential stored away.
For me, it's his iq and ability to read the game. I think he will continue to steadily improve as he refines his game. Not saying he will be an All-Star, but a capable stater isn't a reach imo.
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Post#1874 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:42 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Enough with the GiannisGM stuff. The report was that Bogdan was his preferred choice. That obviously doesn't mean he was his only choice. Otherwise, we would have heard by now that he was planning on leaving. He's not playing GM; he is asking the Bucks to make smart moves. The Bucks are extraordinarily lucky that Giannis is loyal - that... is our best chance in keeping him.


Or we could be realistic. The franchise will do anything Giannis wants until he signs the supermax. The number one priority is making him happy. Like it or not, that makes him defacto GM. Nobody is implying that he's making harsh demands.

Being realistic means understanding there's not one player he's demanding they get. You're making this out like the Twilight Zone episode where everyone was afraid that they'd upset Billy Mummy, and he'd make them disappear if they didn't do exactly what he wanted to. I think Giannis is just requesting competence, and he hasn't gotten it.
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Post#1875 » by mke_design » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:46 pm

I just realized, we paid Patty a good penny to stay around. What if hes the starter?
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Post#1876 » by jschligs » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:50 pm

To me it just sounds like a rival GM was a little bitch after catching wind of the move, complained, then had his own personnel say they heard Lasry brag. People want Giannis to leave so this doesn’t surprise me. It sucks but whatever, time to move on from that deal and focus on the team we’ve built (which will look and feel drastically different, one I’m excited about) and winning basketball.

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Post#1877 » by thrice123 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:51 pm

mke_design wrote:I just realized, we paid Patty a good penny to stay around. What if hes the starter?
My exact thought when he signed.

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Post#1878 » by skones » Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:55 pm

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skones wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Enough with the GiannisGM stuff. The report was that Bogdan was his preferred choice. That obviously doesn't mean he was his only choice. Otherwise, we would have heard by now that he was planning on leaving. He's not playing GM; he is asking the Bucks to make smart moves. The Bucks are extraordinarily lucky that Giannis is loyal - that... is our best chance in keeping him.


Or we could be realistic. The franchise will do anything Giannis wants until he signs the supermax. The number one priority is making him happy. Like it or not, that makes him defacto GM. Nobody is implying that he's making harsh demands.

Being realistic means understanding there's not one player he's demanding they get. You're making this out like the Twilight Zone episode where everyone was afraid that they'd upset Billy Mummy, and he'd make them disappear if they didn't do exactly what he wanted to. I think Giannis is just requesting competence, and he hasn't gotten it.


I LITERALLY said no one is implying that he's making harsh demands and then you tell me that's what "being realistic" means.
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Post#1879 » by LUKE23 » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:04 pm

We probably aren't even having these Bogdan discussions had we drafted better under LED. They bought the team in April 2014, and we had four straight first round picks of:

Parker
Vaughn
Maker
Wilson

We got absolutely zero long-term rotation players out of those picks, all 17 or higher. That's a pretty huge deal when you talk about team building, and having to make up for those mistakes using free agent dollars.
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Post#1880 » by Ruzious » Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:06 pm

skones wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
skones wrote:
Or we could be realistic. The franchise will do anything Giannis wants until he signs the supermax. The number one priority is making him happy. Like it or not, that makes him defacto GM. Nobody is implying that he's making harsh demands.

Being realistic means understanding there's not one player he's demanding they get. You're making this out like the Twilight Zone episode where everyone was afraid that they'd upset Billy Mummy, and he'd make them disappear if they didn't do exactly what he wanted to. I think Giannis is just requesting competence, and he hasn't gotten it.


I LITERALLY said no one is implying that he's making harsh demands and then you tell me that's what "being realistic" means.

You have a very selective memory lately, and you continuously argue for the sake of arguing. This is also what you said:
The franchise will do anything Giannis wants until he signs the supermax. The number one priority is making him happy. Like it or not, that makes him defacto GM.
and that's what I was responding to.

Not to mention, you felt the need to start your previous post with "Or we could be realistic". Don't get pissed off when I respond to that.
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