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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 4:54 pm
by German Athens
ShootingtheJ wrote:German Athens wrote:RiotPunch wrote:As mentioned before, the ESPN Trade Machine has Payne's salary listed incorrectly. Need to add ~$4.7M outgoing here to be legal.
I actually wanted to respond to your trade board idea with OKC and Mem, but swapping Mem with CHI and getting your thoughts.
Mke: Caruso, jaylin Williams, Kenrich Williams
Okc: Patrick williams, Bobby
Chi: giddey, marjon, pat, ‘24 Hou 1st, ‘25 PHI 1st, ‘24 Por 2nd
OKC doesn't need to send out actual talent, they can just deal Bertans and any of their hundreds of picks to acquire anyone they want.
You may be right, but this trade was a modification of a proposal from an OKC fan where they wanted to give up:
Giddey + Poku + 1st and a 2nd for Patrick williams + Drummond.
I’m replacing Drummond with Bobby who would be a better fit for them. I’m then bumping that 2nd into another first and Kenrich. That may be too much, though, and just one OKC fan perspective.
In that case, maybe something closer to RiotPunch’s original proposal:
Mke: Caruso, Jevon, jaylin Williams
Chi: Bertans, marjon, ‘24 Houston 1st, ‘24 por 2nd
Okc: Bobby, Pat
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:01 pm
by theFireBlanket
yb90 wrote:I know reports say everyone except for Curry is available but would they trade Green?
Would Green and Payton II for B./R. Lopez, Beauchamp, and Payne work for both teams?
Might work but thats a steal for GSW. No.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:25 pm
by smauss
ShootingtheJ wrote:smauss wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:Marques has had just about enough of this BS
Couldn't agree more. Close outs are awful, and we need someone, anyone to move their feet and stay in front of their guy!
Seems weird a game after Middleton stayed in front of Tatum.
Maybe he reads RealGM.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 6:27 pm
by smauss
emunney wrote:smauss wrote:midranger wrote:He has been the worst screener I’ve ever seen for a guy his size under three different coaches. Whatever the strategy is, sucks.
This guy! Good to see you back.
Thx, my friend. Can't promise to be around as much as I used to, but I'll be lurking.......
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:11 pm
by engelmartin
Dumb question, but since our pick this year is a swap with NOP, does that mean we get to keep it if it’s worse than their pick? Two draft picks would be pretty cool even if they’re in the 30-35 range.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:33 pm
by randy84
cheeztrain wrote:Why in the heck! Would we trade BP for PJ?
You guys are lost on that one.
Certain people want to trade Bobby Portis and certain people want PJ Tucker back and certain people want Norman Powell and certain people want to get rid of Patty C and certain people want to get rid of Malik Beasley. Seems like those certain people could come up with a trade that would certainly net what they want.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 7:58 pm
by ShootingtheJ
Orlando needs a shooter. GSW wants a 7' scorer. Portland wants 2 1sts for Grant.
Orlando in: Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Orlando out: Goga Bodadze, Denver 2025 1st
GSW in: Brolo, Rolo
GSW out: Wiggins, 2026 1st
Portland in: Wiggins, GSW 2026 1st, Denver 2025 1st
Portland out: Grant, 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz in: 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz out: Kris Dunn
Bucks in: Grant, Dunn, Goga
Bucks out: Brolo, Rolo, Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks are now incredibly versatile defensively, and have a great closing lineup.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 8:18 pm
by yb90
theFireBlanket wrote:yb90 wrote:I know reports say everyone except for Curry is available but would they trade Green?
Would Green and Payton II for B./R. Lopez, Beauchamp, and Payne work for both teams?
Might work but thats a steal for GSW. No.
I think it's pretty even if you consider Green the best player in the deal.
In a perfect Bucks fan world this trade expands to 4 teams with Payton II going to Was for Wright and you add in Connington and R. Lopez to Portland w/2nd for Thybulle. Now the trade looks like:
Bucks - In - Green, Wright, and Thybulle
GSW - In - Lopez, Payne, and Beauchamp
Was - In - Payton II and Mil's 2nd
Por - In - Connaughton, Lopez, and GSW's 2nd
This trade is too big to happen and I don't see GSW or MIl wanting to trade Green or Lopez but I think it makes sense for both teams. It gets GSW the big they want while still having capital to get Pascall or Grant. If they wanted Grant over Pascall Portland could add Grant to the above deal and GSW would add Paul and Kuminga and 1st but keep Payton. Pat would go to Washington instead of Portland.
GSW comes away with Grant, Lopez, Payne, and Beauchamp for Green, Paul, and Kuminga
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 9:15 pm
by PG Graveyard
engelmartin wrote:Dumb question, but since our pick this year is a swap with NOP, does that mean we get to keep it if it’s worse than their pick? Two draft picks would be pretty cool even if they’re in the 30-35 range.
Yes we keep our 1st rounder this year.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2024 10:40 pm
by slos
Bucks in Siakam, Looney
Bucks out Lopez, Portis, Pat, POR 2024 SRP, 2027 SRP
Warriors in Lopez, Pat, MIL 2027 SRP
Warriors out Wiggins, Looney, 2026 FRP
Raptors in Wiggins, Portis, GSW 2026 FRP, POR 2024 SRP
Raptors out Siakam
Warriors get their 7-footer that can score and get out of Wiggins' deal
Toronto splits another star into a Canadian wing, Bobby to replace Pascal and picks
Bucks get a big who can actually play the defensive schemes coach Griffin is familiar with
Lillard.........Payne
Beasley........Beauchamp.....Green
Middleton.....AJJ...............Thanasis
Giannis........Crowder.........Livingston
Siakam........Looney...........RoLo
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 12:30 am
by JRoy
ShootingtheJ wrote:Orlando needs a shooter. GSW wants a 7' scorer. Portland wants 2 1sts for Grant.
Orlando in: Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Orlando out: Goga Bodadze, Denver 2025 1st
GSW in: Brolo, Rolo
GSW out: Wiggins, 2026 1st
Portland in: Wiggins, GSW 2026 1st, Denver 2025 1st
Portland out: Grant, 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz in: 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz out: Kris Dunn
Bucks in: Grant, Dunn, Goga
Bucks out: Brolo, Rolo, Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks are now incredibly versatile defensively, and have a great closing lineup.
Zero interest for POR
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:06 am
by ShootingtheJ
JRoy wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:Orlando needs a shooter. GSW wants a 7' scorer. Portland wants 2 1sts for Grant.
Orlando in: Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Orlando out: Goga Bodadze, Denver 2025 1st
GSW in: Brolo, Rolo
GSW out: Wiggins, 2026 1st
Portland in: Wiggins, GSW 2026 1st, Denver 2025 1st
Portland out: Grant, 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz in: 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz out: Kris Dunn
Bucks in: Grant, Dunn, Goga
Bucks out: Brolo, Rolo, Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks are now incredibly versatile defensively, and have a great closing lineup.
Zero interest for POR
Same thing you send about Reddish last year, right before you got Reddish.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:12 am
by JRoy
ShootingtheJ wrote:JRoy wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:Orlando needs a shooter. GSW wants a 7' scorer. Portland wants 2 1sts for Grant.
Orlando in: Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Orlando out: Goga Bodadze, Denver 2025 1st
GSW in: Brolo, Rolo
GSW out: Wiggins, 2026 1st
Portland in: Wiggins, GSW 2026 1st, Denver 2025 1st
Portland out: Grant, 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz in: 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz out: Kris Dunn
Bucks in: Grant, Dunn, Goga
Bucks out: Brolo, Rolo, Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks are now incredibly versatile defensively, and have a great closing lineup.
Zero interest for POR
Same thing you send about Reddish last year, right before you got Reddish.
Reddish remains a marginal player. The shine wears off pretty quick.
Strange to think POR hasn’t had a starting quality sf since around 2015.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:17 am
by Matches Malone
ShootingtheJ wrote:JRoy wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:Orlando needs a shooter. GSW wants a 7' scorer. Portland wants 2 1sts for Grant.
Orlando in: Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Orlando out: Goga Bodadze, Denver 2025 1st
GSW in: Brolo, Rolo
GSW out: Wiggins, 2026 1st
Portland in: Wiggins, GSW 2026 1st, Denver 2025 1st
Portland out: Grant, 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz in: 2- 2028 2nds
Jazz out: Kris Dunn
Bucks in: Grant, Dunn, Goga
Bucks out: Brolo, Rolo, Beasley, Portland 2024 2nd
Bucks are now incredibly versatile defensively, and have a great closing lineup.
Zero interest for POR
Same thing you send about Reddish last year, right before you got Reddish.
... and Dame
JRoy is a reverse jinx at this point.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:24 am
by JRoy
Matches Malone wrote:ShootingtheJ wrote:JRoy wrote:
Zero interest for POR
Same thing you send about Reddish last year, right before you got Reddish.
... and Dame
JRoy is a reverse jinx at this point.
I actually said I thought Lillard might end up in MIL but the MIL assets didn’t make sense.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:47 am
by -Jragon-
Too many Brook trades and not enough Middleton trades in here
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:13 am
by RiotPunch
German Athens wrote:RiotPunch wrote:As mentioned before, the ESPN Trade Machine has Payne's salary listed incorrectly. Need to add ~$4.7M outgoing here to be legal.
I actually wanted to respond to your trade board idea with OKC and Mem, but swapping Mem with CHI and getting your thoughts.
Mke: Caruso, jaylin Williams, Kenrich Williams
Okc: Patrick williams, Bobby
Chi: giddey, marjon, pat, ‘24 Hou 1st, ‘25 PHI 1st, ‘24 Por 2nd
Yeah, don't think OKC sells that low on Giddey. I like the premise, though, if Chicago is willing to trade Caruso and OKC pays the necessary picks for Bobby. Obviously love Jaylin as a Bobby replacement.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:28 am
by -Jragon-
Wrong thread
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 2:51 am
by Fotis St
-Jragon- wrote:Too many Brook trades and not enough Middleton trades in here
Giannis is too emotional connected with Khris. That makes him almost untradeable .... unless we get KD. Rearranging the roster to become a serious contender again is like unbuttoning your shirt ... one button at a time and in a specific order ... Jrue was the 1st button after getting humiliated by Jimmy while shooting 1/8 3s in our knock out game. Bud was responsible too, button No2. Now its Brook's turn. We only paid him in order to keep the salary spot since we were already capped out. Portis and Giannis can eat all the minutes at the 5.
Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2024 3:24 am
by RiotPunch
-Jragon- wrote:Too many Brook trades and not enough Middleton trades in here
Nah