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[Daver]

Jimmy with Dame and GA is 1 more ring... Horst... how we doing on that?

Agree and if jimmy walks 50 million is freed up

[Daver]

Just realized the Bucks have two of the top 5 3pt% shooters in the league on the same team(Prince/AJ). I also read, Trent has the highest 3pt% over the last 2 months of anybody in the league. This bodes well for the playoffs, Giannis has never had this level of shooting accuracy around him in his entire career. The outside shooting of the Bucks after the championship run was just abysmal, and the main reason why they lost against Boston in '22 I think.

Problem is thpugh alot of you are so in love eith green it wont matter but i perdonally think trent would be even better starting but i guess it doesnt matter

[Daver]

Just realized the Bucks have two of the top 5 3pt% shooters in the league on the same team(Prince/AJ). I also read, Trent has the highest 3pt% over the last 2 months of anybody in the league. This bodes well for the playoffs, Giannis has never had this level of shooting accuracy around him in his entire career. The outside shooting of the Bucks after the championship run was just abysmal, and the main reason why they lost against Boston in '22 I think.

We’ll see if those %’s roll over into the playoffs because for most spot up shooters, they don’t. Bucks have always had decent regular season shooters but they always fall off in the playoffs when the intensity rises. I think it’s more important to have guys who can do a little bit after the closeout comes and attack that which I think those guys can. It also helps that Aj green is a real two way player too.

Dont think i have ever seen green take a floater or mid range shot or even drive to the basket at least trent csn do all 3 very well

[raferfenix]

Jimmy’s deservedly getting killed in the media.

This is not a hapless Minnesota Timberwolves situation.

The more that comes out the worse Jimmy looks. Heat say the trade offers they’ve received stink but I’m not sure they will get so much better.

If the Heat want to move on they gotta deal him though. Just can’t imagine the sign and trade market being so great for him, especially if he’d sulk his way through the rest of the season.

Bobby Marks: I think there is a strong likelihood Jimmy Butler is on the Heat roster past the Feb. 6 trade deadline and he picks up that $52 million player option. … I think it would be more likely for him to opt into the contract then see where you stand as far as a trade standpoint.

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/strong-likelihood-jimmy-butler-remains-in-miami-past-trade-deadline/

“You don’t disrespect authority, and that’s what Jimmy Butler has been doing,” Tim Hardaway Sr. said. “And I tell you this, Pat Riley, this boat is going to sail on top of the water as long as Pat Riley is there, Jimmy Butler is trying to sink that ship. That ship is not going to sink. I’m all with Pat Riley. You under contract, you know, you play up under this contract. We may see where all the chips may fall, but, and you can opt into $52 million next year that you say you’re not going to opt into, which is mind-boggling to me. How you gonna opt out of $52 million all right, but you know, it’s all about authority saying no to somebody, and these guys can’t take rejection, and that’s what it’s all about.”

”It's about accountability. If you can't take rejection, because everything has been saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes to you, now you upset that the world is coming to an end,” Hardaway said. “Oh, I can't play now, because he's not gonna give me the money that I want. No, go out there and play, you are under contract. Go ahead and play. I know Pat, and that's what it's doing. That's what's happening. And I knew that. I said, Look, Pat got a 10-page letter to the Players Association, and he gonna have film showing why he suspended this man before that even happened. And guess what? He suspended him for seven games, and I know he gave them a 10-page letter, and I know he gave them some film to show him why he's suspended.”

https://clutchpoints.com/heat-news-tim-hardaway-sr-rips-into-jimmy-butler-amid-trade-drama

[ShootingtheJ]

Jimmy with Dame and GA is 1 more ring... Horst... how we doing on that?

Agree and if jimmy walks 50 million is freed up

That's not the way the cap works. There's a lot of variables, but we'd possibly gain no cap space. We'd get the MLE, and that's it. Not a viable plan.

[ShootingtheJ]

Just realized the Bucks have two of the top 5 3pt% shooters in the league on the same team(Prince/AJ). I also read, Trent has the highest 3pt% over the last 2 months of anybody in the league. This bodes well for the playoffs, Giannis has never had this level of shooting accuracy around him in his entire career. The outside shooting of the Bucks after the championship run was just abysmal, and the main reason why they lost against Boston in '22 I think.

We’ll see if those %’s roll over into the playoffs because for most spot up shooters, they don’t. Bucks have always had decent regular season shooters but they always fall off in the playoffs when the intensity rises. I think it’s more important to have guys who can do a little bit after the closeout comes and attack that which I think those guys can. It also helps that Aj green is a real two way player too.

Don't think I have ever seen Green take a floater or mid range shot or even drive to the basket at least Trent can do all 3 very well

Trent shooting just 45% on shots inside the arc, Green is 50%. Green should expand that part of his game.

[Daver]

Jimmy with Dame and GA is 1 more ring... Horst... how we doing on that?

Agree and if jimmy walks 50 million is freed up

That's not the way the cap works. There's a lot of variables, but we'd possibly gain no cap space. We'd get the MLE, and that's it. Not a viable plan.

If brooks walk do we then clear some cap space.Ive been hearing on NBA tv say that if we trade for butler n he walks we would hsve enough cap space to sign 2 20 million dollar playerx

[ShootingtheJ]

Just realized the Bucks have two of the top 5 3pt% shooters in the league on the same team(Prince/AJ). I also read, Trent has the highest 3pt% over the last 2 months of anybody in the league. This bodes well for the playoffs, Giannis has never had this level of shooting accuracy around him in his entire career. The outside shooting of the Bucks after the championship run was just abysmal, and the main reason why they lost against Boston in '22 I think.

Problem is though alot of you are so in love with Green it won't matter but i personally think Trent would be even better starting but i guess it doesn’t matter

Both are averaging the same points per 36, Green is the better defender, and far more efficient shooter. Trent is more aggressive looking for his shot.

[ShootingtheJ]

Agree and if jimmy walks 50 million is freed up

That's not the way the cap works. There's a lot of variables, but we'd possibly gain no cap space. We'd get the MLE, and that's it. Not a viable plan.

If brooks walk do we then clear some cap space? I've been hearing on NBA tv say that if we trade for Butler and he walks we would have enough cap space to sign 2- 20 million dollar players

They're off. Letting Brook walk clears some space, he makes $23 million, but now you have 2 spots to fill, and very few avenues to fill them. Who on this offseasons FA list interests you?

[Daver]

How much is milwaukee over the 1st apron

[Daver]

Wouldnt midds opting out n portis (if they keep both) opting out cut like 48 million off the cap.Dont get it how dont you save 48 milliom if ypu lose 2 players making 48 million n if your at 200 million wouldnt that drop you down to 160 how does it not save you alot of cap space

[ShootingtheJ]

Wouldnt midds opting out n portis (if they keep both) opting out cut like 48 million off the cap.Dont get it how dont you save 48 milliom if ypu lose 2 players making 48 million n if your at 200 million wouldnt that drop you down to 160 how does it not save you alot of cap space

We're presently $52 million over the cap. Giannis and Dame also both get significant raises.

[yb90]

That's not the way the cap works. There's a lot of variables, but we'd possibly gain no cap space. We'd get the MLE, and that's it. Not a viable plan.

If brooks walk do we then clear some cap space? I've been hearing on NBA tv say that if we trade for Butler and he walks we would have enough cap space to sign 2- 20 million dollar players

They're off. Letting Brook walk clears some space, he makes $23 million, but now you have 2 spots to fill, and very few avenues to fill them. Who on this offseasons FA list interests you?

LaRavia, Coffey, Turner and Aldama are a few guys they could go after plus they would be under the apron to use their exceptions to give a player money I think .

How far off would the Bucks cap situation be from how the Sixers looked this past offseason?

[Daver]

Be cool if they could resign trent.Dudes only 26 n i think fits in good on this team

[ShootingtheJ]

If brooks walk do we then clear some cap space? I've been hearing on NBA tv say that if we trade for Butler and he walks we would have enough cap space to sign 2- 20 million dollar players

They're off. Letting Brook walk clears some space, he makes $23 million, but now you have 2 spots to fill, and very few avenues to fill them. Who on this offseasons FA list interests you?

LaRavia, Coffey, Turner and Aldama are a few guys they could go after plus they would be under the apron to use their exceptions to give a player money I think .

How far off would the Bucks cap situation be from how the Sixers looked this past offseason?

Not close to that, because Dame makes way more than Maxie, and we'll have other players under contract. Plus, what the 76ers did was a disaster.

Aldama is intriguing, but both him and LaRavia are RFAs.

[ShootingtheJ]

Be cool if they could resign trent.Dudes only 26 n i think fits in good on this team

He's below replacement level the 2nd year in a row. He's fine on a minimum, but hasn't earned a raise.

[yb90]

They're off. Letting Brook walk clears some space, he makes $23 million, but now you have 2 spots to fill, and very few avenues to fill them. Who on this offseasons FA list interests you?

LaRavia, Coffey, Turner and Aldama are a few guys they could go after plus they would be under the apron to use their exceptions to give a player money I think .

How far off would the Bucks cap situation be from how the Sixers looked this past offseason?

Not close to that, because Dame makes way more than Maxie, and we'll have other players under contract. Plus, what the 76ers did was a disaster.

Aldama is intriguing, but both him and LaRavia are RFAs.

Looking at Spotrac Dame and Giannis will be just above 108m together in salary with the next person locked up would be AJ Johnson at $3m and if you add the rest it would total close to $10m. Although, It will probably be more if they lock up Green and Rollins to long term deals.

Also, Spotrac has LaRavia as an UFA but you are correct that Aldama is an RFAs. S&T likely would get it done given their Roster.

Plus, I would add Banton and Yabusele to the UFA list

It would be a risk to bank on Jimmy over Khris and Portis. If the Bucks went that route Green or Trent Jr needs to move into the starting lineup up pushing Prince and AJax to the bench. Rollins, Trent Jr., Prince, Ajax, and ? would carry the bench. They would need to find a Diabate type or roll the dice with Robbins.

[humanrefutation]

Watching the Magic game. They've got a few useful role players that would look good here. Perhaps there's a deal we can do with them where they'd value Bobby's scoring in a desperate attempt to make some playoff noise.

[Plossum]

Be cool if they could resign trent.Dudes only 26 n i think fits in good on this team

He's below replacement level the 2nd year in a row. He's fine on a minimum, but hasn't earned a raise.

Don’t disagree but one thing I like about our GTJ is he can just randomly go off. Very streaky but when he’s hot, he’s scalding. Can be useful to win us a playoff series like Forbes did in 21’.

[ShootingtheJ]

LaRavia, Coffey, Turner and Aldama are a few guys they could go after plus they would be under the apron to use their exceptions to give a player money I think .

How far off would the Bucks cap situation be from how the Sixers looked this past offseason?

Not close to that, because Dame makes way more than Maxie, and we'll have other players under contract. Plus, what the 76ers did was a disaster.

Aldama is intriguing, but both him and LaRavia are RFAs.

Looking at Spotrac Dame and Giannis will be just above 108m together in salary with the next person locked up would be AJ Johnson at $3m and if you add the rest it would total close to $10m.

Now you have to add in minimum cap holds to get the roster to 11 players. We don't know exactly scat the cap will be, but we've e gutted the roster for $5 million to $10 million in cap space. Not a viable plan.