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Post#1881 » by Siefer » Thu May 29, 2014 2:26 pm

Villanoeyebrows wrote:Again, its fair to point out that Mello is not a plus defender and that he is a ball stopper on offense. And his career is what it is. But it is illogical to say that a current prospect (Parker) who has similar size and skills is destined for the same career pattern.

NBA Champs come in every shape and style. Even the Spurs have won with great defense and grit, as well as beautiful ball movement and balance. The Bulls had a dynasty without any bigs that could score. The 80s Celtics had the best frontcourt of all time. Showtime had a 6'10 point guard. The Bad Boys was driven by great coaching, two undersized hall of famers in the backcourt, and nasty role players. Shaq and Kobe were the best at the 5 and the 2. All this to say, no talented player should be off the table for a team in building mode. The Bucks need to acquire the most talented players they can. If Parker is that guy, there will be no "curse of Mello" hanging over him.


Annnnnd one of the 10 best players to ever play the game.

Let's not forget about that.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1882 » by SupremeHustle » Thu May 29, 2014 2:27 pm

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You may not like Melo, but that is ridiculous.


Some could argue that if he went to the Bulls and Rose was healthy, Melo might be #3 dog with Rose/Noah ahead of him. That team would be a contender.


#3 in terms of what exactly? Melo is probably the best scorer on that team.


I don't like Melo, but he's the best scorer on any team that doesn't have Kevin Durant on it.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1883 » by Siefer » Thu May 29, 2014 2:27 pm

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Turk Nowitzki wrote:This is basically what I've been thinking during this entire thread. Embiid is the best prospect but I absolutely will not be upset with any of the top 4.


I think the only way you can legitimately get pissed off in this draft is if:

1. Embiid is there at #2 and we pass on him
2. We take someone other than Wiggins/Parker/Exum at #2 if Embiid goes #1

I want Wiggins if Embiid isn't there, but I understand the rationale behind picking either Exum or Parker. That's basically where I'm at right now.


This is my nightmare scenario, but I'm almost positive it won't happen. If Embiid is there, we're taking him.
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Post#1884 » by Licensed to Il » Thu May 29, 2014 2:30 pm

Seifer,

Almost all championship teams have at least two current top ten players on it.

Also, I wholeheartedly agree that Duncan is a top ten all time player.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1885 » by Badgerlander » Thu May 29, 2014 3:32 pm

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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1886 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu May 29, 2014 3:34 pm

Another reason I'm glad we are picking where we are at.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1887 » by machu46 » Thu May 29, 2014 3:42 pm

DocHoliday wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/471959456096342017[/tweet]


That's nice. Probably won't get picked by either of them though.
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Post#1888 » by JayMKE » Thu May 29, 2014 3:45 pm

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Post#1889 » by Badgerlander » Thu May 29, 2014 3:47 pm

I'd take Saric over Randle
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Post#1890 » by White+Purple » Thu May 29, 2014 3:53 pm

Rockmaninoff wrote:I think Cleveland is either trading the pick for a vet or taking Embiid.

What level vet do you think it'd take?
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Post#1891 » by Newz » Thu May 29, 2014 3:55 pm

White+Purple wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:I think Cleveland is either trading the pick for a vet or taking Embiid.

What level vet do you think it'd take?


The only realistic one I can think of would be Kevin Love.

The Cavs are pretty bad though. Maybe the Lakers can revive their history of getting insane value on trades and pawn off Gasol on them or something. Like Gasol + 7 for 1.
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Post#1892 » by White+Purple » Thu May 29, 2014 3:58 pm

Newz wrote:
White+Purple wrote:The only realistic one I can think of would be Kevin Love.

The Cavs are pretty bad though. Maybe the Lakers can revive their history of getting insane value on trades and pawn off Gasol on them or something. Like Gasol + 7 for 1.

A Kevin Love rental isn't landing much.
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Post#1893 » by Newz » Thu May 29, 2014 3:59 pm

White+Purple wrote:
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White+Purple wrote:The only realistic one I can think of would be Kevin Love.

The Cavs are pretty bad though. Maybe the Lakers can revive their history of getting insane value on trades and pawn off Gasol on them or something. Like Gasol + 7 for 1.

A Kevin Love rental isn't landing much.


I agree as I think Kevin Love is kind of overrated. But I just don't know of any other 'star' veteran players available that they would consider moving the first overall pick for.
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Post#1894 » by Badgerlander » Thu May 29, 2014 4:01 pm

Newz wrote:
White+Purple wrote:
Rockmaninoff wrote:I think Cleveland is either trading the pick for a vet or taking Embiid.

What level vet do you think it'd take?


The only realistic one I can think of would be Kevin Love.

The Cavs are pretty bad though. Maybe the Lakers can revive their history of getting insane value on trades and pawn off Gasol on them or something. Like Gasol + 7 for 1.


Pau is a free agent though. The Cavs did try to trade for Aldridge last year but I doubt that they trade the pick.
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Post#1895 » by jwalsh52 » Thu May 29, 2014 4:02 pm

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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1896 » by White+Purple » Thu May 29, 2014 4:04 pm

Newz wrote:
White+Purple wrote:I agree as I think Kevin Love is kind of overrated. But I just don't know of any other 'star' veteran players available that they would consider moving the first overall pick for.

LeBron, obviously. But other than that I agree, that's why I asked Rock.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1897 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu May 29, 2014 4:26 pm

New thread worthy? Update thread title of this thread? Or neither?

Goodman has us taking Parker #2, Embiid goes #1.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/472050919358472192[/tweet]

2Jabari ParkerMilwaukee Bucks (15 - 67)COLLEGE: DukeHT: 6-8WT: 241POS: SF
Analysis: The Bucks will have a choice between the ultra-athletic Wiggins and the skilled Parker if Embiid is off the board. That will be an agonizing decision for GM John Hammond, who will balance taking the more-NBA ready Parker and Wiggins, who appears to have the higher upside. Hammond can ill-afford to miss here, and that will be why he ultimately goes with Parker.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1898 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu May 29, 2014 4:28 pm

Goodman's take on Embiid at #1:

1Joel EmbiidCleveland Cavaliers (33 - 49)COLLEGE: KansasHT: 7-0WT: 250POS: C
Analysis: Cavs GM David Griffin has a difficult decision to make between the 7-foot Embiid and a pair of contrasting forwards: Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker. Multiple sources insist that the Cavs favor Embiid as long as the medical info regarding the back injury that kept him off the court in March checks out clean.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1899 » by Zeezprah » Thu May 29, 2014 4:31 pm

PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:New thread worthy? Update thread title of this thread? Or neither?

Goodman has us taking Parker #2, Embiid goes #1.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/GoodmanESPN/status/472050919358472192[/tweet]

2Jabari ParkerMilwaukee Bucks (15 - 67)COLLEGE: DukeHT: 6-8WT: 241POS: SF
Analysis: The Bucks will have a choice between the ultra-athletic Wiggins and the skilled Parker if Embiid is off the board. That will be an agonizing decision for GM John Hammond, who will balance taking the more-NBA ready Parker and Wiggins, who appears to have the higher upside. Hammond can ill-afford to miss here, and that will be why he ultimately goes with Parker.


freaking a. the bold is what really pisses me off about keeping hammond the most. you take BPA, not the one that saves your job. if he believe jabari is BPA for our organization forward, so be it. But don't just draft him because he's most ready and you wanna keep your job.

frick.
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Re: Ford Mock 6.0 #2 Embiid 

Post#1900 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Thu May 29, 2014 4:32 pm

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PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
2Jabari ParkerMilwaukee Bucks (15 - 67)COLLEGE: DukeHT: 6-8WT: 241POS: SF
Analysis: The Bucks will have a choice between the ultra-athletic Wiggins and the skilled Parker if Embiid is off the board. That will be an agonizing decision for GM John Hammond, who will balance taking the more-NBA ready Parker and Wiggins, who appears to have the higher upside. Hammond can ill-afford to miss here, and that will be why he ultimately goes with Parker.


freaking a. the bold is what really pisses me off about keeping hammond the most. you take BPA, not the one that saves your job. if he believe jabari is BPA for our organization forward, so be it. But don't just draft him because he's most ready and you wanna keep your job.

frick.


Agreed, but I don't think there is any hard evidence to suggest this will be the case. I just seems like the popular speculation going around right now.
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