Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal

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A friend and I were looking at this person's feed yesterday and speculating on who they probably are and our best guess was NBATV intern

Hard to say. He is beating the heavy hitters to the punch on some stuff but he's got nothing to lose for being early/wrong either.

What is he beating them on? The transactions he’s talked up as him being the “first” on (Lopez, Crowder, etc) were rumored or reported to be likely by others (Stein being a big one). It just seems like he’s engagement farming by repackaging existing rumors as “insider” info and posting vague emoji and “be patient” tweets, it’s stuff I feel like a hardcore NBA fan could pull off.

[DingleJerry]

Right now, a 1st very likely to be in the 20s is so valuable we shouldn't trade it. 11 months from now in talking about a different player/trade/situation/draft, "meh you can just buy pick 34 for a few mil, what's the big deal."

[RiotPunch]

A friend and I were looking at this person's feed yesterday and speculating on who they probably are and our best guess was NBATV intern

Hard to say. He is beating the heavy hitters to the punch on some stuff but he's got nothing to lose for being early/wrong either.

What is he beating them on? The transactions he’s talked up as him being the “first” on (Lopez, Crowder, etc) were rumored or reported to be likely by others (Stein being a big one). It just seems like he’s engagement farming by repackaging existing rumors as “insider” info and posting vague emoji and “be patient” tweets, it’s stuff I feel like a hardcore NBA fan could pull off.

You're probably right. He was before Haynes on Thybulle today, I think? Nothing groundbreaking. Seems like a hype merchant.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

if sexton isnt worth a first to upgrade over what we have already then why bother

Yeah, he's not and we shouldn't.

would you trade patc and allen straight up for him? to me whatever upside he has im not sure the risk would be worth it considering we know what we got with those two and its very solid and reliable if not exciting

[JonHeist]

just slap a lottery protection on the pick and get this over with

[emunney]

A Sexton to Milwaukee deal for Allen/Pat/heavily protected FRP is make-or-break for that account.

[Ron Swanson]

The reluctance to trade one of the few future 1st's we have left is more about not having it to trade for a better player later as opposed to thinking like, the 2029 1st is gonna end up a lottery pick or something. I mean, when we're talking about just throwing in that pick for Collin Sexton, Terry Rozier, Bogdanovic, etc., then that's gonna be an easy no from me dawg.

[emunney]

if sexton isnt worth a first to upgrade over what we have already then why bother

Yeah, he's not and we shouldn't.

would you trade patc and allen straight up for him? to me whatever upside he has im not sure the risk would be worth it considering we know what we got with those two and its very solid and reliable if not exciting

I would not, no way in hell.

[BroncoBuck]

Right now, a 1st very likely to be in the 20s is so valuable we shouldn't trade it. 11 months from now in talking about a different player/trade/situation/draft, "meh you can just buy pick 34 for a few mil, what's the big deal."

-Mikhail Prokorov in 2013

[DingleJerry]

Don't forget he's signed for 3 more years already too. I mean the groupthink on this board was to trash Allan for the last year and how we need to upgrade that spot so badly, etc. Now we won't use a pick 6 years from now almost for sure in the 20s for a clear and obvious upgrade. That said, I'm not just bending over if Ainge is being nuts and I'd be trying multiple other avenues too before doing it. I wouldn't have blinders on to just him. First and foremost do all you can on Dame and if you lose out on sexton in the meantime so be it.

I think I saw in some reporting that Simons from Por doesn't seem to have the market Por thought. Maybe you can snag him in some kind of 3 way at a price better than Sexton if so

[emunney]

A hopeful thought is Sexton is the kind of young scoring guard who could help Portland save face in a Dame trade. Not that they aren't already flush with that category of player.

[DingleJerry]

Right now, a 1st very likely to be in the 20s is so valuable we shouldn't trade it. 11 months from now in talking about a different player/trade/situation/draft, "meh you can just buy pick 34 for a few mil, what's the big deal."

-Mikhail Prokorov in 2013

Yea if you ignore all my comments about putting protections on it.

As Ron and others said. The more accurate argument is hoarding it for a bigger package next year. Not that mass Bucks pessimism that we're bound to always suck and everything that can go wrong will go wrong. The hoarding it argument is fair to me and totally get that line of thinking to hold off on good not great players like this. The sky is falling and we're gonna suck in 5 years doesn't hold much weight

[rayallenscalves]

if sexton isnt worth a first to upgrade over what we have already then why bother

Yeah, he's not and we shouldn't.

would you trade patc and allen straight up for him? to me whatever upside he has im not sure the risk would be worth it considering we know what we got with those two and its very solid and reliable if not exciting

I would. While I remain a mild Marjon skeptic, I think him and Beas (maybe even AJ Green) could more more than adequately replace Grayson and Pat. Sexton is young, fills a position of need, scores at a high level, and is on what could become a very team friendly contract. I don't love the injury history, but worth a shot.

[Daver]

I’m still not sold at all on that “insider” account. But yeah if any of that is true Horst can’t give in and include the 1st, would be a big L. If Ainge is being difficult then just move on for now, there will be other decent shot creators we can acquire later on, doesn’t need to be done in early July.

Ainge will give in this deal will get done

I hope so as Ainge has let guys go in the past for not massive packages but my concern is he has it in his mind that he gets that 2029 1st or no deal.

Well then switch your effort to rozier then can probably get him with just portis n allen

[raferfenix]

I wonder what the difference is in what it'd take to get Rozier vs Sexton.

[paulpressey25]

A Sexton to Milwaukee deal for Allen/Pat/heavily protected FRP is make-or-break for that account.

We’ll let him run and see what happens. Plenty out there for a track record to be developed. FWIW, I didn’t see anyone talking up Sexton talks heavily until this guy hit the scene.

That said, he may just be a good spinner of tales.

[RiotPunch]

Ainge will give in this deal will get done

I hope so as Ainge has let guys go in the past for not massive packages but my concern is he has it in his mind that he gets that 2029 1st or no deal.

Well then switch your effort to rozier then can probably get him with just portis n allen

I would not give Portis in a deal for Rozier, mayyyybbeee if Martin is also coming back. I think they just want off that Rozier money, though. Allen+Pat+2nd or move on to the next.

[tedbrogen]

Ainge will give in this deal will get done

I hope so as Ainge has let guys go in the past for not massive packages but my concern is he has it in his mind that he gets that 2029 1st or no deal.

Well then switch your effort to rozier then can probably get him with just portis n allen

I’m 100% down for that because Rozier seems like a guy who rises to the occasion in the post season. Although maybe that is because he got to face Playoff Bledsoe for 7 games.

[mcfromage]

Here's an idear...

BUCKS IN
Dame, Hartenstein, Q. Grimes

KNICKS IN:
Jrue, G. Allen, Portis

BLAZERS IN:
Quickley, RJ Barrett, Fournier, NYK 2024 1st (via Det)

[SupremeHustle]

Can MD please ban anyone who posts NBA Insider tweets? I'm so sick of that guy.

What if he is MD?