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Post#1881 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:02 pm

SirChurros wrote:Anyone thinking Dame and Giannis is enough offense to win a title is kidding themselves.


Bucks would still have Lopez, Portis, Connaughton, Prince, Wright, and whatever they get for Middleton. Two of the NBA's top scorers and that bunch of role players is still a crazy good offense.
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Post#1882 » by fansinceforever » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:11 pm

Y'all know we don't want trade Middleton for nothing, right??
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Post#1883 » by Frank Nova » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:12 pm

Bucks in - Ingram, Kessler

Pelicans in - Brook, Bobby, Beauchamp

Jazz in - Pat C, Bucks 2031 1st

Saves the Bucks almost 9m, Ingram becomes the best 4th option I can think of and Kessler can try and develop into a starter. Bucks have no draft assets anymore, we need Walker Kesslers and 19yr old draft picks now so that during these next down years in the draft, they’ll be in their primes when our draft capital comes back around. I’d take the chance here.

Pelicans get their 2 bigs to “win now”

Jazz get the Bucks 1st for eating the difference between Pat and Kesslers contract. Swapping these 2 is where the Bucks save enough money to get under the 2nd apron.

A closing 4 in the playoffs of Dame Khris BI and Giannis is an absolute demon squad. I’d put us as title favorites if Horst was able to pull that off.

Maybe Ingram isn’t someone that can up his game in the playoffs to be a #1 scoring option but the 4th option with Dame Giannis and Khris? Come on now, ppl are mad about that? That’s crazy.
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Post#1884 » by fansinceforever » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:13 pm

Btw, most of these Lopez trades recently make us significantly worse defensively which is the problem that any Bucks trade should be aiming to solve
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - PatBev: AJJ has "bright future" 

Post#1885 » by Daver » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:13 pm

slos wrote:Some thoughts about an Ingram trade..

- I’m not using Midds under any circumstances since it would be a downgrade for the next season and our window is now.

- Pels seemed to like the idea splitting Ingram into Capela and Okongwu. I have Brook and Bobby an even better package.

- Pat needs to be included to avoid the 2nd tax apron.

- A backup C needs to come our way since you can’t play Giannis full time C.

So….

Bucks in Ingram, Kessler
Bucks out Pat, Bobby, Brook, 2031 FRP

Pels in Bobby, Brook
Pels out Ingram

Utah in Pat, MIL 2031 FRP
Utah out Kessler

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Green/AJJ
Midds/MarJon
Ingram/Prince/Livingston
Giannis/Kessler/Smith

In terms of money that leaves 3,943 mil under the 2nd apron to fill the final spots.




Lijed it till i saw green at 2 thus has to stop no way no how will green ve starting at tbe 2 not a chsnce.If anything midds to 2 ingram at 3 giannis 4 n kessler 5
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Post#1886 » by jute2003 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:28 pm

What have Ingrams injuries been? If we could expect 65-70 games a year out of him and availability in the playoffs, I would be very intrigued....even for khris. If he's gonna be a 50 game a year player that may or may not be available when it matters....no thank you.
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Post#1887 » by soxperry » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:29 pm

fansinceforever wrote:Btw, most of these Lopez trades recently make us significantly worse defensively which is the problem that any Bucks trade should be aiming to solve


It depends on what youre looking at. Many are convinced that Lopez makes us worse defensively in some ways and i find it hard to disagree.
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Post#1888 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:32 pm

Clippers don't have much in the way of draft assets to move for Ingram, but with PG bolting, this is the way to do them a solid while extracting value:

MIL Out: Bobby
MIL In: Terance Mann

LAC Out: Mann, Norm Powell, Bones Hyland, 2030 1st (Top-4 protected)
LAC In: Ingram

NOP Out: Ingram
NOP In: Powell, Bobby, Hyland, 2030 LAC 1st
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Post#1889 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:40 pm

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Post#1890 » by M-C-G » Tue Jul 9, 2024 1:43 pm

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fansinceforever wrote:Btw, most of these Lopez trades recently make us significantly worse defensively which is the problem that any Bucks trade should be aiming to solve


It depends on what youre looking at. Many are convinced that Lopez makes us worse defensively in some ways and i find it hard to disagree.


I think the Pacers exposed how you can make him completely unplayable UNLESS we are going to give him way more usage in the post. Have to believe teams are going watch tape from that series taking 3s and barely being across half court while the Pacers are laying it in. I love Brook by the way but it is probably the simplest way to change the team DNA by moving him
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Post#1892 » by emunney » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:06 pm

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Post#1893 » by EasyE31 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:09 pm

The Magic have resigned a bunch of their guys this offseason - with the notable exceptions of Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs. Perhaps they are open to trading one or both? Suggs would be a perfect fit as our starting 2 guard and Carter gives you some of what Brook does.
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Post#1894 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:40 pm

SirChurros wrote:Anyone thinking Dame and Giannis is enough offense to win a title is kidding themselves.

We won a title playing 4 on 5 offense. 2 on 5 can’t be that much harder.
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Post#1895 » by jakecronus8 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 2:42 pm

EasyE31 wrote:The Magic have resigned a bunch of their guys this offseason - with the notable exceptions of Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs. Perhaps they are open to trading one or both? Suggs would be a perfect fit as our starting 2 guard and Carter gives you some of what Brook does.


Middleton for Suggs and WCJ works in the checker. Just saying.

ETA: Add Lopez and PC for Smart/Clarke

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Suggs/Smart/Green
Prince/Ajax/Thanny
Giannis/Bobby/Smith
WCJ/Clarke

Death lineups would be off the charts defensively (minus dame)
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Post#1896 » by Daver » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:05 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
EasyE31 wrote:The Magic have resigned a bunch of their guys this offseason - with the notable exceptions of Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs. Perhaps they are open to trading one or both? Suggs would be a perfect fit as our starting 2 guard and Carter gives you some of what Brook does.


Middleton for Suggs and WCJ works in the checker. Just saying.

ETA: Add Lopez and PC for Smart/Clarke

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Suggs/Smart/Green
Prince/Ajax/Thanny
Giannis/Bobby/Smith
WCJ/Clarke

Death lineups would be off the charts defensively (minus dame)



Thats our starting 5 oh comeon thats brutal who the hell is scoring in that lineup sure not prince or wcj .Deals like this make me realize how important midds is
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Post#1897 » by Frank Nova » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:05 pm

slos wrote:Some thoughts about an Ingram trade..

- I’m not using Midds under any circumstances since it would be a downgrade for the next season and our window is now.

- Pels seemed to like the idea splitting Ingram into Capela and Okongwu. I have Brook and Bobby an even better package.

- Pat needs to be included to avoid the 2nd tax apron.

- A backup C needs to come our way since you can’t play Giannis full time C.

So….

Bucks in Ingram, Kessler
Bucks out Pat, Bobby, Brook, 2031 FRP

Pels in Bobby, Brook
Pels out Ingram

Utah in Pat, MIL 2031 FRP
Utah out Kessler

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Green/AJJ
Midds/MarJon
Ingram/Prince/Livingston
Giannis/Kessler/Smith

In terms of money that leaves 3,943 mil under the 2nd apron to fill the final spots.


I missed your post and basically posted the same thing. Sorry for that. I did add Beauchamp to the mix also to shed more salary. I like this idea a lot.
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Post#1898 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:19 pm

Interview with the 2 rookies. Marques got them to open up a tiny bit more lol. They're still shy.

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Post#1899 » by rayallenscalves » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:28 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
EasyE31 wrote:The Magic have resigned a bunch of their guys this offseason - with the notable exceptions of Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs. Perhaps they are open to trading one or both? Suggs would be a perfect fit as our starting 2 guard and Carter gives you some of what Brook does.


Middleton for Suggs and WCJ works in the checker. Just saying.

ETA: Add Lopez and PC for Smart/Clarke

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Suggs/Smart/Green
Prince/Ajax/Thanny
Giannis/Bobby/Smith
WCJ/Clarke

Death lineups would be off the charts defensively (minus dame)


Orlando has kind of a weird roster construction right now with a bunch of bigs but no actual PG, just a few guys who kind of look like PGs if you squint real hard. I don't think Orlando does a WCJ for Brook swap, but a 3-way with Brook going somewhere else, a PG going to Orlando and WCJ coming to Milwaukee could be interesting.
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Post#1900 » by EasyE31 » Tue Jul 9, 2024 3:29 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
EasyE31 wrote:The Magic have resigned a bunch of their guys this offseason - with the notable exceptions of Wendell Carter and Jalen Suggs. Perhaps they are open to trading one or both? Suggs would be a perfect fit as our starting 2 guard and Carter gives you some of what Brook does.


Middleton for Suggs and WCJ works in the checker. Just saying.

ETA: Add Lopez and PC for Smart/Clarke

Dame/Wright/Johnson
Suggs/Smart/Green
Prince/Ajax/Thanny
Giannis/Bobby/Smith
WCJ/Clarke

Death lineups would be off the charts defensively (minus dame)


How about:

Bucks in: Ingram, WCJ, Suggs, Kessler
Bucks out: Middleton, Lopez, Portis, Connaughton, 31 first

Jazz in: Connaughton, Bucks 31 first
Jazz out: Kessler

Pelicans in: Lopez, Portis, Magic 2026 first
Pelicans out: Ingram

Magic in: Middleton
Magic out: Suggs, WCJ, 26 first

This deal saves us $16.5m in 2024-25 cap space so would open up the full TPMLE you could give to Gary Trent

Dame/Wright
Suggs/Trent/Green
Ingram/AJJ
Giannis/Prince
WCJ/Kessler

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