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humanrefutation wrote:Watching the Magic game. They've got a few useful role players that would look good here. Perhaps there's a deal we can do with them where they'd value Bobby's scoring in a desperate attempt to make some playoff noise.
“I don’t know how this gets worked out,” one league source told Heavy Sports. “And I only know of a few teams that want to come anywhere near this.”
So the Miami star — the degree to which Butler remains that is under debate in front offices — remains away from the club under suspension while the Heat are on a six-game road trip.
“It’s more difficult than people think,” said one team’s head of basketball operations. “First of all, Jimmy’s 35 and doesn’t have much value. And then the team that would like him the most is probably Phoenix, because they’re so bad and they have the worst contract in (Bradley) Beal. Other than that, I don’t know of any teams that would want to take on Jimmy Butler, other than teams that just want to dump contracts — and Miami won’t go for that. I just don’t know how it’s going to work.
“But all this stuff with Jimmy — all the stuff in Miami and Minnesota and Chicago and Philly — all of it is because he wants to get paid. That’s where he’s at right now. He wants to be paid for what he’s done for Miami.”
“You’d have to say Jimmy’s been good for Miami overall, but he’s also been very difficult,” said a league source. “I think it’s just reached an end. It’s like he’s in charge; he doesn’t play all the time, and he’s had injuries that always seem to come up. He’s not as good as it was.
“He got a lot of mileage out of being a leader, a go-to guy, a big game player, but he wasn’t there night in and night out.”
That has appeared to disturb Pat Riley, the high priest of the Heat.
raferfenix wrote:Maybe the Bucks really aren’t offering the 2031 first for Jimmy….
Khris + Bobby + Pat could be characterized as a salary dump in this report.
Or we could just be out.“I don’t know how this gets worked out,” one league source told Heavy Sports. “And I only know of a few teams that want to come anywhere near this.”
So the Miami star — the degree to which Butler remains that is under debate in front offices — remains away from the club under suspension while the Heat are on a six-game road trip.“It’s more difficult than people think,” said one team’s head of basketball operations. “First of all, Jimmy’s 35 and doesn’t have much value. And then the team that would like him the most is probably Phoenix, because they’re so bad and they have the worst contract in (Bradley) Beal. Other than that, I don’t know of any teams that would want to take on Jimmy Butler, other than teams that just want to dump contracts — and Miami won’t go for that. I just don’t know how it’s going to work.
“But all this stuff with Jimmy — all the stuff in Miami and Minnesota and Chicago and Philly — all of it is because he wants to get paid. That’s where he’s at right now. He wants to be paid for what he’s done for Miami.”“You’d have to say Jimmy’s been good for Miami overall, but he’s also been very difficult,” said a league source. “I think it’s just reached an end. It’s like he’s in charge; he doesn’t play all the time, and he’s had injuries that always seem to come up. He’s not as good as it was.
“He got a lot of mileage out of being a leader, a go-to guy, a big game player, but he wasn’t there night in and night out.”
That has appeared to disturb Pat Riley, the high priest of the Heat.
https://heavy.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/miami-heat-jimmy-butler-divorce-is-coming-but-no-one-knows-how/
raferfenix wrote:Maybe the Bucks really aren’t offering the 2031 first for Jimmy….
Khris + Bobby + Pat could be characterized as a salary dump in this report.
Or we could just be out.“I don’t know how this gets worked out,” one league source told Heavy Sports. “And I only know of a few teams that want to come anywhere near this.”
So the Miami star — the degree to which Butler remains that is under debate in front offices — remains away from the club under suspension while the Heat are on a six-game road trip.“It’s more difficult than people think,” said one team’s head of basketball operations. “First of all, Jimmy’s 35 and doesn’t have much value. And then the team that would like him the most is probably Phoenix, because they’re so bad and they have the worst contract in (Bradley) Beal. Other than that, I don’t know of any teams that would want to take on Jimmy Butler, other than teams that just want to dump contracts — and Miami won’t go for that. I just don’t know how it’s going to work.
“But all this stuff with Jimmy — all the stuff in Miami and Minnesota and Chicago and Philly — all of it is because he wants to get paid. That’s where he’s at right now. He wants to be paid for what he’s done for Miami.”“You’d have to say Jimmy’s been good for Miami overall, but he’s also been very difficult,” said a league source. “I think it’s just reached an end. It’s like he’s in charge; he doesn’t play all the time, and he’s had injuries that always seem to come up. He’s not as good as it was.
“He got a lot of mileage out of being a leader, a go-to guy, a big game player, but he wasn’t there night in and night out.”
That has appeared to disturb Pat Riley, the high priest of the Heat.
https://heavy.com/sports/nba/miami-heat/miami-heat-jimmy-butler-divorce-is-coming-but-no-one-knows-how/
KnicksGod wrote:Middleton probably the most underrated player in NBA History
yb90 wrote:I think the Bucks should try to use their resources to go younger. There has to be an Aaron Gordon/PJ Washington type deal somewhere. I guess the apron restrictions are hurting the Bucks in finding those type trades.
KnicksGod wrote:Middleton probably the most underrated player in NBA History
Bernman wrote:Yes, let's kill our entire frontcourt, outside Giannis. That's the ticket!
No, we shouldn't further derail our bleak future by dealing our '31 (+ assets) for a Jimmy rental.
The only configuration there's a chance they'd accept & is arguable, is Khris-Bobby-Pat. Theoretically improves our chances to win it all this season. Then we can replace Butler in FA. I'm ambivalent about doing that & standing Pat (no pun intended).
M-C-G wrote:Bernman wrote:And our front court outside of Giannis aren’t deal breaker players.
Bernman wrote:Yes, let's kill our entire frontcourt, outside Giannis. That's the ticket!
No, we shouldn't further derail our bleak future by dealing our '31 (+ assets) for a Jimmy rental.
The only configuration there's a chance they'd accept & is arguable, is Khris-Bobby-Pat. Theoretically improves our chances to win it all this season. Then we can replace Butler in FA. I'm ambivalent about doing that & standing Pat (no pun intended).
ShootingtheJ wrote:We can't replace Butler in free agency. We're $52 million over the cap.