Indiana Pacers Draft Pick Watch Thread

Ron Swanson · Post #1901 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 9:58 pm

Taking college production/efficiency as gospel is how guys like Kawhi and Donovan Mitchell slide in the draft. If you like the tools and see the talent there, don't overthink it. If Anthony falls to #24 I'm not hesitating too much. No other guy in that range has the kind of offensive talent that he has. Ditto to a lesser extent on Maxey, although ironically he reminds so much of Bledsoe and it's not just the Kentucky connection.

RiotPunch · Post #1902 » by **RiotPunch** » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:12 pm

machu46 wrote:
RiotPunch wrote:I think Cole will be a damn good pull up shooter and solid POA defender. His athleticism took a dip, I do wonder if he was playing injured last year.

Agree he's more of a 2 on offense that guards 1's. Just doesn't have the passing chops to run an offense consistently.

HS/AAU tape should be considered for guys that had big contextual factors in college. Cole and Maxey are the first that come to mind there.

I'd say this applies to Nico too but I'm much lower on him as a prospect than the other two anyways.

Yeah, I'm pretty out on Nico. I like his game, I just don't see enough translating.

Ron Swanson wrote:Taking college production/efficiency as gospel is how guys like Kawhi and Donovan Mitchell slide in the draft. If you like the tools and see the talent there, don't overthink it. If Anthony falls to #24 I'm not hesitating too much. No other guy in that range has the kind of offensive talent that he has. Ditto to a lesser extent on Maxey, although ironically he reminds so much of Bledsoe and it's not just the Kentucky connection.

Maxey's driving/finishing/POA defense aspects of his game are very similar to Bled's. I have way more faith in him as a shooter though, despite his Kentucky %'s, and he is wayyyy more headstrong than Bledsoe. I just love that kid's attitude, work ethic, and fearlessness in big moments.

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benultimate · Post #1904 » by **benultimate** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:25 am

I'd be fine with Cole Anthony. He's the sort of pick that is tolerable at 24, but if you're picking him in the lottery you'd be nauseous.

BroncoBuck · Post #1905 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:02 pm

I just don’t see it with Bane. He looks like a mid second round pick who has been elevated this year by a subpar draft. I guess I’m just not too high on guys who’s sole skill is spot up shooting. I really hope we don’t take him.

BroncoBuck · Post #1906 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:05 pm

Ruzious wrote:Pass on Cole Anthony. He's not even a PG, imo. If he wasn't rated so highly in HS, would anyone even consider him a FRP?

He was rated so highly in HS because he was one hell of a player. North Carolina was a **** show this season with a complete mess of a lineup. I worry about Cole’s tunnel vision, but that roster played right into that. I think his shooting is much better than what we saw at UNC.

Post #1907 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:46 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Pass on Cole Anthony. He's not even a PG, imo. If he wasn't rated so highly in HS, would anyone even consider him a FRP?

He was rated so highly in HS because he was one hell of a player. North Carolina was a **** show this season with a complete mess of a lineup. I worry about Cole’s tunnel vision, but that roster played right into that. I think his shooting is much better than what we saw at UNC.

Do you think he's a point guard in the NBA?

Post #1908 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:53 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:I just don’t see it with Bane. He looks like a mid second round pick who has been elevated this year by a subpar draft. I guess I’m just not too high on guys who’s sole skill is spot up shooting. I really hope we don’t take him.

Where do you get that his sole skill is spotting up? He's an excellent passer - averaged 4.1 assists per game in Big 12 games - and 6 rebounds a game. And his shooting isn't just spotting up. He's got a great step-back move, and because he's so strong, he can create space with his physicality. And while he's not super-quick defensively, he can defend in the same way Wes Matthews has.

Post #1909 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:25 pm

If Josh Green is there at 24, he's gotta be considered. He looks awfully good on tape. Will turn 20 on Monday. Didn't have overwhelming stats, but I think he was under-used. Nice looking form on his j. Excellent athleticism and strong, plays tough defense. I don't see a weakness. Just needs to prove he can be a knockdown 3 point shooter.

machu46 · Post #1910 » by **machu46** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:14 pm

Ruzious wrote:If Josh Green is there at 24, he's gotta be considered. He looks awfully good on tape. Will turn 20 on Monday. Didn't have overwhelming stats, but I think he was under-used. Nice looking form on his j. Excellent athleticism and strong, plays tough defense. I don't see a weakness. Just needs to prove he can be a knockdown 3 point shooter.

Seems like everybody thinks he’s a lock for the Jazz but we’ll see. I would definitely be happy with him too.

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Post #1911 » by **Ruzious** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:45 pm

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Badgerlander · Post #1912 » by **Badgerlander** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:45 pm

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M-C-G · Post #1913 » by **M-C-G** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:58 pm

Watched 1.5 minutes of Cole Anthony with screaming baby in background. Now know all there is to know about him, doesn't look like anything special to me. Take it to the bank!

BroncoBuck · Post #1914 » by **BroncoBuck** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:00 pm

Ruzious wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:I just don’t see it with Bane. He looks like a mid second round pick who has been elevated this year by a subpar draft. I guess I’m just not too high on guys who’s sole skill is spot up shooting. I really hope we don’t take him.

Where do you get that his sole skill is spotting up? He's an excellent passer - averaged 4.1 assists per game in Big 12 games - and 6 rebounds a game. And his shooting isn't just spotting up. He's got a great step-back move, and because he's so strong, he can create space with his physicality. And while he's not super-quick defensively, he can defend in the same way Wes Matthews has.

He’s nowhere near athletic or skilled enough to do those things against NBA wings. He reminds me so much of a guy like Reggie Bullock. The Bucks need some versatility. We saw it in the playoffs when the ball just kept swinging around and nobody could create anything. I’d much rather take a shot on a guy like Ramsey or Bolmero if we want to go with a wing.

RiotPunch · Post #1915 » by **RiotPunch** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:06 pm

BroncoBuck wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
BroncoBuck wrote:I just don’t see it with Bane. He looks like a mid second round pick who has been elevated this year by a subpar draft. I guess I’m just not too high on guys who’s sole skill is spot up shooting. I really hope we don’t take him.

Where do you get that his sole skill is spotting up? He's an excellent passer - averaged 4.1 assists per game in Big 12 games - and 6 rebounds a game. And his shooting isn't just spotting up. He's got a great step-back move, and because he's so strong, he can create space with his physicality. And while he's not super-quick defensively, he can defend in the same way Wes Matthews has.

He’s nowhere near athletic or skilled enough to do those things against NBA wings. He reminds me so much of a guy like Reggie Bullock. The Bucks need some versatility. We saw it in the playoffs when the ball just kept swinging around and nobody could create anything. I’d much rather take a shot on a guy like Ramsey or Bolmero if we want to go with a wing.

Jahmi'us over Bane would be bad for my health.

Bane's wingspan and lateral agility are concerning to an extent, but he is plenty athletic and skilled. Limiting him to just a spot-up shooter is harsh, as he might be the best shooter off-movement in this class, between him and Nesmith. He is a quick decision maker, plays great team D, and just makes winning plays. Jah'mius Ramsey makes losing plays, his BBIQ is hundreds of miles behind Bane's. Bane contributes day one, Jah'mius takes the Rashad Vaughn pathway, with hopes he can become McLemore someday. If you think he's going to create in the half-court, then :lol:

. Bane keeps the ball moving, Ramsey is a ball-stopping chucker without a clue on defense.

I like Bolmaro as a stash though, but doubt we would go that route given the circumstances.

PG Graveyard · Post #1916 » by **PG Graveyard** » Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:18 pm

I don't believe the draft can start until Little Cleo comes in with his draft tiers.

M-C-G · Post #1917 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:11 am

Kind of want to draft Killian Tillie at 24 if Bane isn't there, then buy a second and try to get any of Pritchard, Flynn, Yam, Winston, Riller.

Then we can move one of Bledsoe or Hill, plus Ersan, RoLo, etc. and kind of, not reconstruct, but retune this roster. Tillie is your young Ersan-ish, then young PG to develop behind whoever is left.

Or the other move is going after Kevin Love. Lots of money, but I don't think he would ultimately cost that much and a Giannis/Love/Middleton 'big three' would be an upgrade.

Fotis St · Post #1918 » by **Fotis St** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:28 am

I like Killian Tillie ... I think the best Cs we can have at a very cheap price are Kornet,Hartenstein and Tillie
the question is who is the Kevin Love type of trade of this decade for the Bucks like the Cavs got KL from the Wolves ?

theFireBlanket · Post #1919 » by **theFireBlanket** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:08 am

Fotis St wrote:I like Killian Tillie ... I think the best Cs we can have at a very cheap price are Kornet,Hartenstein and Tillie
the question is who is the Kevin Love type of trade of this decade for the Bucks like the Cavs got KL from the Wolves ?

Bucks aren't drafting with #1, let alone top 5. Not comparable, amigo.

Post #1920 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:40 am

Fotis St wrote:I like Killian Tillie ... I think the best Cs we can have at a very cheap price are Kornet,Hartenstein and Tillie
the question is who is the Kevin Love type of trade of this decade for the Bucks like the Cavs got KL from the Wolves ?

While Bane might fall a little bit because of measurements, Tillie could crater. A 6'8 wingspan and standing reach of 8'10 is hard to overcome for a 4/5. And while he's thin at 221 lbs, his body fat % is too high at 12.43% - indicating he doesn't have an NBA body.