Giannis - 2X MVP - FMVP - DPOY - Offseason discussion

[sidney lanier]

My so-called friends are trolling me with this article:

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-once-almost-quit-194408750.html

“In 2020, I was … ready to walk away from the game.”

Giannis continues talking, but it is now impossible to comprehend anything he’s saying.

“I had that conversation – yes – with the front office. I said…”

Wait, what? Walk away? From the game? Is there anyone who loves basketball more than him?

[HKPackFan]

My so-called friends are trolling me with this article:

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-once-almost-quit-194408750.html

“In 2020, I was … ready to walk away from the game.”

Giannis continues talking, but it is now impossible to comprehend anything he’s saying.

“I had that conversation – yes – with the front office. I said…”

Wait, what? Walk away? From the game? Is there anyone who loves basketball more than him?

I don't get what's to Troll. He's talking about mental health. I guess in missing the joke?

[-Jragon-]

My so-called friends are trolling me with this article:

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-once-almost-quit-194408750.html

“In 2020, I was … ready to walk away from the game.”

Giannis continues talking, but it is now impossible to comprehend anything he’s saying.

“I had that conversation – yes – with the front office. I said…”

Wait, what? Walk away? From the game? Is there anyone who loves basketball more than him?

I don't get what's to Troll. He's talking about mental health. I guess in missing the joke?

Makes Thanasis even more awesome of a roster spot hold. Someone send this to Woeful so he can stop being so bad.

[sidney lanier]

My so-called friends are trolling me with this article:

https://sports.yahoo.com/giannis-antetokounmpo-once-almost-quit-194408750.html

“In 2020, I was … ready to walk away from the game.”

Giannis continues talking, but it is now impossible to comprehend anything he’s saying.

“I had that conversation – yes – with the front office. I said…”

Wait, what? Walk away? From the game? Is there anyone who loves basketball more than him?

I don't get what's to Troll. He's talking about mental health. I guess in missing the joke?

Just trying to scare me by suggesting that Giannis could have walked away. That's what friends are for.

My mistake is having friends who are Golden State fans. I also got plenty of articles a couple of years ago before Giannis signed his extension about how he was going to GSW for sure.

[skbucks1985]

I did have a chuckle with the realization that the period of time Giannis is talking about was when the 'Giannis leaving Milwaukee' speculation was at its peak and it turns out that he was far more likely to leave Milwaukee for retirement than Miami or New York

[paulpressey25]

Will be plugging my ears as the ESPN hype machine spends the next two months plotting Giannis next destination.

That said, hoping he doesn't play for the National team this summer. He's clearly banged up and may need surgery on the wrist.

[ABucksFan]

Can someone breakdown the ramifications of Giannis NOT signing an extension this summer? Does the extension for this caliber of player typically happen during this timeframe?

[paulpressey25]

Can someone breakdown the ramifications of Giannis NOT signing an extension this summer? Does the extension for this caliber of player typically happen during this timeframe?

He's got $45, $48 and $51 guaranteed, but that last year is his option.

He can tack on another three years for $173 million per Bobby Marks, if signed before October 30th of this year.

However, there isn't necessarily a rush given how much he's already banked. So him not signing an extension this year isn't necessarily a panic situation at all. The big pivot point will be next trade deadline 2024/summer 2024. That's when the vultures on ESPN will really start to circle.

[tydett]

Can someone breakdown the ramifications of Giannis NOT signing an extension this summer? Does the extension for this caliber of player typically happen during this timeframe?

He's got $45, $48 and $51 guaranteed, but that last year is his option.

He can tack on another three years for $173 million per Bobby Marks, if signed before October 30th of this year.

However, there isn't necessarily a rush given how much he's already banked. So him not signing an extension this year isn't necessarily a panic situation at all. The big pivot point will be next trade deadline 2024/summer 2024. That's when the vultures on ESPN will really start to circle.

New media deal comes down in that summer, correct? Giannis would be wise to wait for his $75 million per year deal 'til then.

[CharityStripe34]

Can someone breakdown the ramifications of Giannis NOT signing an extension this summer? Does the extension for this caliber of player typically happen during this timeframe?

He's got $45, $48 and $51 guaranteed, but that last year is his option.

He can tack on another three years for $173 million per Bobby Marks, if signed before October 30th of this year.

However, there isn't necessarily a rush given how much he's already banked. So him not signing an extension this year isn't necessarily a panic situation at all. The big pivot point will be next trade deadline 2024/summer 2024. That's when the vultures on ESPN will really start to circle.

New media deal comes down in that summer, correct? Giannis would be wise to wait for his $75 million per year deal 'til then.

I'd think he's more worried about what type of team can Horst surround him with in the next two years. As well as potentially coaching staff, given his "lack of necessary adjustments" comments in the presser the other night.

[ClassicJack]

He has to be a more willing passer going forward. I hate the only pass to get an assist version of Giannis.

[Brewhoopfan]

We've already seen the version of Giannis that can still be dominant well into his mid 30s: He has an unstoppable jump-hook going middle over his left shoulder. The baseline fade isn't great, but good enough as a counter. His footwork and fakes from the post are really REALLY good. He's an excellent passer out of a double team. Giannis sets great ball screens, and he's the best roller/finisher in the league.

The problem is that we've never seen an extended commitment from Giannis or the Bucks to play inside-out. And more often than not, Giannis defaults to battering ram mode under pressure. He needs to play the 5. I'd easily trade the added physicality defensively to get rid of the physical punishment he puts himself through playing the perimeter offensively. This is how his career gets extended without becoming any less dominant. It's the best for him, and the best for the Bucks.

I have little faith in the current coaching staff to make this transition.

[MissKhriddleton]

He needs to play like Shawn Marion. We need a Nash tho.

[CharityStripe34]

We've already seen the version of Giannis that can still be dominant well into his mid 30s: He has an unstoppable jump-hook going middle over his left shoulder. The baseline fade isn't great, but good enough as a counter. His footwork and fakes from the post are really REALLY good. He's an excellent passer out of a double team. Giannis sets great ball screens, and he's the best roller/finisher in the league.

The problem is that we've never seen an extended commitment from Giannis or the Bucks to play inside-out. And more often than not, Giannis defaults to battering ram mode under pressure. He needs to play the 5. I'd easily trade the added physicality defensively to get rid of the physical punishment he puts himself through playing the perimeter offensively. This is how his career gets extended without becoming any less dominant. It's the best for him, and the best for the Bucks.

I have little faith in the current coaching staff to make this transition.

He made great strides in PF/C "down-low" play in 2021 and 2022 especially from the mid-range. For whatever reason, he tends to abandon that development and resort to his face-up game from the top of the key. I'm wondering if missing Khris for most of the season caused him to feel added pressure to taken on scoring burden in isolation. If the Bucks are pursuing a new coaching staff, the most important facet of the new hire will have to be able to unlock this "final form" of Gianni going forward for the remainder of his prime years as well as his post-prime. That's his last level to climb, the finesse aspect of the big-man game. No one's saying he has to become Prime Hakeem, but even just an automatic jump-hook (with counters), a paint floater and a respectable mid-range J. No coincidence that his FT% during last season also was at 72% as he made strides in the mid-range.

Like many here have said, the addition of a true playmaking G will help this development, because then he doesn't have to devote as much time to ball-handling and playmaking. The extent of his passing will be out of double-teams and moving the ball, rather than having the ball 38% of the time.

[PG Graveyard]

Can someone breakdown the ramifications of Giannis NOT signing an extension this summer? Does the extension for this caliber of player typically happen during this timeframe?

He's got $45, $48 and $51 guaranteed, but that last year is his option.

He can tack on another three years for $173 million per Bobby Marks, if signed before October 30th of this year.

However, there isn't necessarily a rush given how much he's already banked. So him not signing an extension this year isn't necessarily a panic situation at all. The big pivot point will be next trade deadline 2024/summer 2024. That's when the vultures on ESPN will really start to circle.

So there really isn’t much of an advantage for him to extend? The vultures will be circling as soon as the Knicks are eliminated this year.

Apparently someone on the ringer said that Bud believes Giannis wants to play in a bigger market. Not sure if anyone else saw it. This all just **** sucks all around. We should be playing the Knicks right now up 2-0

[FrieAaron]

Apparently someone on the ringer said that Bud believes Giannis wants to play in a bigger market. Not sure if anyone else saw it.

This popped up in my social media feed a couple days ago but I could never find it again. I don't know if it was quickly deleted or what, but I did see it.

[MickeyDavis]

It was BS

[PG Graveyard]

It was BS

It was BS or Bill Simmons? Lol.

[FrieAaron]

It was BS

Once I did digging and could find it nowhere, this was what I was assuming. Someone big made a phone call or something and called them out on it and it was pulled.

[RiotPunch]

Ringer isn't very high on the being remotely credible list. Entertainment conglomerate.