ATL - NBA to investigate Lowry/Ball deals for tampering, pg. 81

[emunney]

I take Graham over Rozier in a vacuum so letting Graham walk for half of what you then give Rozier is ugly to me.

Really? I don't think Graham has a place as a prominent player on a championship team. You need to absolutely hide him defensively and he's not good enough offensively to warrant that imo.

On the right team, either of these guys could start for a contender. Wouldn't say you're wrong about Graham's defense (maybe exaggerating) but his ability to run an offense makes him more valuable than a short combo in my book. Offensively, he's VanVleet.

You can't really get away with playing Rozier on the ball full time but he's 6-1ish, and that's problematic as not every team can absorb that lack of playmaking from a player as small as he is. Charlotte does, at least theoretically, but from what I saw LaMelo/Graham was a lot harder for teams to handle than LaMelo/Rozier was.

[DrWood]

I take Graham over Rozier in a vacuum so letting Graham walk for half of what you then give Rozier is ugly to me.

Really? I don't think Graham has a place as a prominent player on a championship team. You need to absolutely hide him defensively and he's not good enough offensively to warrant that imo.

you could say the same thing about Rozier, except that Graham can be a legitimate PG and not just a 6'1" combo guard.

[Ayt]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

[emunney]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Looks like John Hammond's gonna have a big Year Five!

[Plossum]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

I’d take the over on the top 9 tbh. Not all will beat it but I think majority will. Having luka is an auto 50 wins.

[midranger]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Looks like John Hammond's gonna have a big Year Five!

5 years, like that matters.

[AussieBuck]

Still cleaning up Larry Harris' mess.

[emunney]

He's got a nice collection of talent, all with serious injury issues, and then another **** but totally healthy collection of talent.

[BroncoBuck]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Bulls over seems too easy. They essentially pegged them at .500 which I only see happening if they suffer some injuries. I think they are a 46-50 win team

[Badgerlander]

I’d take the over on the Kings and the Knicks

[LuessiT]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Am I missing something? It's a 82 games season right? Over on Nets, Bucks, Suns. All of these teams could win 60.

[machu46]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Bulls over seems too easy. They essentially pegged them at .500 which I only see happening if they suffer some injuries. I think they are a 46-50 win team

Yeah Bulls seem like an easy over to me. I’d go over on the Raptors and under on the Knicks.


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[DingusBojangles]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

What team is missing here? Because the Kings are on there twice...

[RiotPunch]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

What team is missing here? Because the Kings are on there twice...

Rockets are 29.5, I'm guessing

[ShootingtheJ]

I take Graham over Rozier in a vacuum so letting Graham walk for half of what you then give Rozier is ugly to me.

Really? I don't think Graham has a place as a prominent player on a championship team. You need to absolutely hide him defensively and he's not good enough offensively to warrant that imo.

On the right team, either of these guys could start for a contender. Wouldn't say you're wrong about Graham's defense (maybe exaggerating) but his ability to run an offense makes him more valuable than a short combo in my book. Offensively, he's VanVleet.

You can't really get away with playing Rozier on the ball full time but he's 6-1ish, and that's problematic as not every team can absorb that lack of playmaking from a player as small as he is. Charlotte does, at least theoretically, but from what I saw LaMelo/Graham was a lot harder for teams to handle than LaMelo/Rozier was.

It should be acknowledged in this discussion that Charlotte received a 1st in the sign and trade that sent Graham out.

[ShootingtheJ]

What do people think of the initial over/unders?

Bulls over seems too easy. They essentially pegged them at .500 which I only see happening if they suffer some injuries. I think they are a 46-50 win team

Bulls are going to be wretched on defense. Who guards the PG? Who protects the rim? How do you hide Lavine and DDR at the same time?

[emunney]

Really? I don't think Graham has a place as a prominent player on a championship team. You need to absolutely hide him defensively and he's not good enough offensively to warrant that imo.

On the right team, either of these guys could start for a contender. Wouldn't say you're wrong about Graham's defense (maybe exaggerating) but his ability to run an offense makes him more valuable than a short combo in my book. Offensively, he's VanVleet.

You can't really get away with playing Rozier on the ball full time but he's 6-1ish, and that's problematic as not every team can absorb that lack of playmaking from a player as small as he is. Charlotte does, at least theoretically, but from what I saw LaMelo/Graham was a lot harder for teams to handle than LaMelo/Rozier was.

It should be acknowledged in this discussion that Charlotte received a 1st in the sign and trade that sent Graham out.

If the Pelicans make the playoffs this year. Otherwise it's 2nds in '22 and '24.

[skones]

Luka Garza was at Jocats last night lol.

[DrWood]

I’d take the over on the Kings and the Knicks

never take the over on the kings and the Knicks.

[RiotPunch]

Luka Garza was at Jocats last night lol.

Who still goes to Jo-Cats other than Latrell, and apparently the Iowan Luka?