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Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

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Griffin
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Re: Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added 

Post#1921 » by SirChurros » Fri May 26, 2023 1:16 pm

Always blame Bud is the MO around here. Never could be a result of guys not showing up or Giannis still being a pretty flawed player offensively.

Can’t wait to hear all of the, “Nurse sucks. He’s got to go!” posts.
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Post#1922 » by AussieBuck » Fri May 26, 2023 1:35 pm

Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.
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Post#1923 » by buckboy » Fri May 26, 2023 1:40 pm

JayMKE wrote:There would be no way around hiring Atkinson being abject failure worthy of Horst getting sh**canned, no point firing Bud then and if our billionaires get outbid they are not serious.


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Post#1924 » by neiLz » Fri May 26, 2023 1:43 pm

Drop D has it's flaws and this team stubbornly continued to play it... However, I think scoring 1 FG in the 4th quarter, and blowing 2 double digit 4th quarter leads in back 2 back games is the more concerning issue. this team has had problems scoring. I want a coach who can teach their team how to throw a proper entry pass or a **** lob.sick of seeing lob attempts to Giannis, who is the freakiest athlete in the league, where the pass goes off the shot clock or top of the backboard. Or maybe get a point guard that can actually run a pick n roll.
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Post#1925 » by Siefer » Fri May 26, 2023 1:44 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.


The game one zone was wild. Even panicking, I wouldn't have guessed we'd land on that.
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Post#1926 » by AussieBuck » Fri May 26, 2023 1:54 pm

Siefer wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.


The game one zone was wild. Even panicking, I wouldn't have guessed we'd land on that.

I remember we had this preseason thinf, I don't remember if it was this last season or the one before but it was a bunch of dudes switching around with Giannis playing a hyper mobile type of Lopez zone and it looked sexy as hell and then it never happened in a real game. Seemed like that was the whole point of having Dunlap on the staff but we never gave zone or even any kind of switching variety in game reps.

I spent an inordinate amount of time pondering how it could be more.benificial to not show your hand over getting live practice but assumed the pros knew better.
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Post#1927 » by sidney lanier » Fri May 26, 2023 2:04 pm

Friday before a holiday weekend and at the end of a month seems like a good day to announce a pick. I wouldn't be surprised if today's the day.

Is it Atkinson, Griffin, or Nurse?
Just pick one -- not really averse
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And rip him for better or worse

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Post#1928 » by GoldenAntlers » Fri May 26, 2023 2:07 pm

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MickeyDavis wrote:I'd be fine with Atkinson


same id hope he brought some creativity on offense, id hope we could get vogel or somethin to be assistant
An interesting point. While other contenders get former head coaches as assistants, the Bucks have lost assistants by becoming first time head coaches.
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Post#1929 » by emunney » Fri May 26, 2023 2:10 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.


Maybe a little harsh but definitely agree directionally. Think he is maybe criticized too much around "adjustments" when we started so many series looking like we just crawled out of the primordial soup.
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Post#1930 » by MVP2110 » Fri May 26, 2023 2:18 pm

emunney wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.


Maybe a little harsh but definitely agree directionally. Think he is maybe criticized too much around "adjustments" when we started so many series looking like we just crawled out of the primordial soup.


It is weird given our history under Bud that people complain about "adjustments" when our record in game 1 was so bad and then he seemingly adjusted and we would go on to win the series. I mean a 5-2 record in series where we lost game 1 would seem to logically say that Bud's preparation for game 1 wasn't good but that over the course of a series he figured it out
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Post#1931 » by averageposter » Fri May 26, 2023 2:34 pm

When it comes to Bud, I just look at adding the dunker between seasons. The first few years facing a wall in the playoffs watching Giannis run into it, watching guys miss open threes, if only you generated a few buckets with that outlet, maybe you soften the wall by keeping the big home. It's not as hard to implement as trying to get guys to soften the distance on the drop, that probably takes repetition. It's not as radical as switching an entire defensive scheme. just seemed like an inn series adjustment, or in game, not necessarily having to be an offseason tweak.

I remember watching Eric Bledsoe completely ignore James Harden's off hand, stand nearly behind him on some possessions to take away the step back, it looked and played radically different than the typical drop and for that matter than anyone had against Harden. It was supposedly Bledsoe's idea, Harden statistically had a nice game anyway but he hated every minute of it. Jrue on Zion is maybe an example of outside the box as well for Bud anyway. But they were few and far between variances from the day to day and nothing like that happened in a playoff game that I can recall.

Everytime I watched Derozen do Derozen against the defense take what we gave him and exactly what he wanted I thought man can we just for this one very special opponent you know do anything else, even in a regular season game that doesn't matter and we probably out talent his team anyway, still not deviating. Trae Young floater after floater, wide open threes falling after drops we have seen it. Sometimes they do them better than you do you and you tip your cap. And the on average statistical truth led to the best record over a 5 year period, 3 one seeds, great defensive team ranking finishes, a half decade of generally top 10 offense paired with that defense. But in a 7 game series teams took regular season stuff away, hunted defenders, hunted the holes in the drop. Put a wall up for giannis, daring shooters to shoot. And while adjutsments may not work, and you may not have the personell to do some or all of what you'd like, you can see when you didn't even take a swing. We didn't swing. Bud built it, but the next guy has to take those swings.
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Post#1932 » by BUCKnation » Fri May 26, 2023 3:48 pm

I'd be happy with either Atkinson or Nurse tbh. Obviously like Nurse initially, but Kenny has grown on more the more I've read.
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Post#1933 » by M-C-G » Fri May 26, 2023 3:52 pm

BUCKnation wrote:I'd be happy with either Atkinson or Nurse tbh. Obviously like Nurse initially, but Kenny has grown on more the more I've read.


Kind of where I am at. Would be nice to get your coach in house, because we have a lot that could happen this offseason with our roster. Would be great to have them giving input
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Post#1934 » by Frank Nova » Fri May 26, 2023 4:10 pm

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BUCKnation wrote:I'd be happy with either Atkinson or Nurse tbh. Obviously like Nurse initially, but Kenny has grown on more the more I've read.


Kind of where I am at. Would be nice to get your coach in house, because we have a lot that could happen this offseason with our roster. Would be great to have them giving input


Yep, pretty much where I’m at as well. I know it seems like I tried taking a steamy dump on Nurse recently but I’m just looking at the cons when it seems like everyone is so fixated on the pros like Nurse is a poster child for the perfect coach…. Both coaches are well respected and come with their own successes and failures and luckily we have a roster that will without a doubt welcome them with open arms which is always a plus. We have one of the most important off seasons looming in franchise history, we should have a HC installed before any other major decisions are made.
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Post#1935 » by humanrefutation » Fri May 26, 2023 4:14 pm

sidney lanier wrote:Friday before a holiday weekend and at the end of a month seems like a good day to announce a pick. I wouldn't be surprised if today's the day.

Is it Atkinson, Griffin, or Nurse?
Just pick one -- not really averse
Us fans in our fandom
Will keep cheering random
And rip him for better or worse

My bold prediction: the winning candidate is in this picture.

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Hope it's flintsone so maybe we'll finally get our pizza party.
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Post#1936 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri May 26, 2023 4:25 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:Spending all year, every year playing the same drop D when everyone had been game planning it since 2019 was a choice. Say what you want about having very little organisation on the scoring side but spending every postseason having to scramble after game one or two into switching that hadn't been practiced was certainly a thing we went through a bit.

Cherry on the top for me was when we went into that 1/2/2 or whatever it was we did in a fever dream or whatever happened early in the last series. Bud was an ill prepared panic merchant despite his many other positive qualities.


Maybe a little harsh but definitely agree directionally. Think he is maybe criticized too much around "adjustments" when we started so many series looking like we just crawled out of the primordial soup.


It is weird given our history under Bud that people complain about "adjustments" when our record in game 1 was so bad and then he seemingly adjusted and we would go on to win the series. I mean a 5-2 record in series where we lost game 1 would seem to logically say that Bud's preparation for game 1 wasn't good but that over the course of a series he figured it out


the argument is more that a good coach should be willing to toss everything were good at if its not working quarter to quarter even possession to possession. being hugely successful game to game instead of possession to possession is why bud was inferior is the suggestion. "good coaches" can watch a couple plays, call timeout and quickly "adjust". the trick is convincing players that everything theyve been successful with preciously will no longer work just because you feel something or see something and now youve lost confidence in them and they need to play good with something new. i know it sounds ridiculous but thats what guys are getting at here.

generally anytime you have high expectations and lose it cant possibly be on the players its the coach. thats the other theory of course
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Post#1937 » by sidney lanier » Fri May 26, 2023 4:33 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
sidney lanier wrote:Friday before a holiday weekend and at the end of a month seems like a good day to announce a pick. I wouldn't be surprised if today's the day.

Is it Atkinson, Griffin, or Nurse?
Just pick one -- not really averse
Us fans in our fandom
Will keep cheering random
And rip him for better or worse

My bold prediction: the winning candidate is in this picture.

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Hope it's flintsone so maybe we'll finally get our pizza party.


Sorry, I think he's coaching a Flint Michigan Developmental Team right now. But besides Charlie Bell, there are many candidates in the picture.

Even at age 88, Herb could probably still teach them a thing or two. There's also Boylan, Skiles, Kelvin Sampson (actually an active candidate, and wouldn't that be a joke on me if my little game backfired), even Hambone. But the one I mean, as you know, is second from left in the top row.
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Post#1938 » by Profound23 » Fri May 26, 2023 4:46 pm

Krispy Kreme wrote:Always blame Bud is the MO around here. Never could be a result of guys not showing up or Giannis still being a pretty flawed player offensively.

Can’t wait to hear all of the, “Nurse sucks. He’s got to go!” posts.



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Post#1939 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri May 26, 2023 5:21 pm

Just crazy how critical a span of 30 minutes can be to a season. Game 4 the PF/C pick-and-roll was killing Miami, Bucks go away from that to run plays for Jrue then Khris who bricked shots and turned it over. Game 5 Gianni has one of his worst FT nights (despite playing well from the floor) with Jrue getting absolutely brutalized by Butler and refusing to switch off. If the Bucks were literally merely "adequate" in both 4th quarters, they likely advance.
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Post#1940 » by DanoMac » Fri May 26, 2023 5:42 pm

sidney lanier wrote:Friday before a holiday weekend and at the end of a month seems like a good day to announce a pick. I wouldn't be surprised if today's the day.

Is it Atkinson, Griffin, or Nurse?
Just pick one -- not really averse
Us fans in our fandom
Will keep cheering random
And rip him for better or worse

My bold prediction: the winning candidate is in this picture.

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