Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[ReddRum]

Agreed - he would be stupid to leave Miami. He chose Miami and should continue and end his legacy there. Pat Riley has already shown he will do anything it takes to win a championship, and even if Bosh is traded / walks and Wade's body starts to fail him I have to believe Riley will bring in another two top 15 players, to start a new dynasty.

[ReddRum]

Love seeing Wiggins going #2 in this mock draft that wast just updated yesterday...

http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft

[Wise1]

If there's any truth to the sentiment that the Wiggins camp "prefers Philly", I consider that a tell. With that I'd say that the Wiggins' team has a pretty good feeling that he isn't going 1 or 2. Perhaps they feel Philly is as high as they'll get and they are trying to hold that position. If Philly is mutually interested in Wiggins over Embiid and Parker, the Wiggins team probably wants to induce a trade up to number 1 so that their client owns that marketing tag. If Philly has Exum and others on the same tier as Wiggins, then Wiggins could slide out of the top 3. Worst case scenario for team Wiggins.

[msiris]

Agreed - he would be stupid to leave Miami. He chose Miami and should continue and end his legacy there. Pat Riley has already shown he will do anything it takes to win a championship, and even if Bosh is traded / walks and Wade's body starts to fail him I have to believe Riley will bring in another two top 15 players, to start a new dynasty.

And this is why his legacy will always be tainted. Chicago drafted their teams at least. MJ will always be better than James.

[europa]

If Wiggins prefers Philly it could be about any number of things, not the least of which could simply be the Bucks and Cavs both been jokes and he may not want anything to do with either one. Anything can obviously happen but I think it would be an absolute shock if Wiggins fell out of the Top 3. If I was in his camp I wouldn't be worried about him going anywhere other than Cleveland, Milwaukee or Philly assuming there is no trade.

[paulpressey25]

I think you are projecting your preferences now that your drunkenness has worn off from watching the Wiggins' workout. Teams have their fits, Embiid his back questions, and even before them he was #1 but hardly the consensus.

As to the Wiggins workout high, again that was in relation to Wiggy v. Jabari. Lord Embiid though has always been number #1 overall for me and I'll continue to project that as the preference for the majority of NBA GM's provided his back checks out.

The Cav's forum is enjoyable to read. Most are now firmly on Embiid's bandwagon, at least until something bad should come out medically.

http://www.realcavsfans.com/forumdispla ... 4867bde1ed

[Wise1]

Love seeing Wiggins going #2 in this mock draft that wast just updated yesterday...

http://nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft

I wouldn't mind it. I'd like to see what Philly is all about. If they want Wiggins, give up 3 and 10. If not, we'll just keep Wiggins. (I think Philly wins there though)

In that scenario, I'm praying that the Bucks could somehow acquire Marcus Smart to pair with Wiggins in a lights out defensive backcourt.

[europa]

I really want Wiggins but if Embiid goes No. 1 and the Sixers come calling with 3/10 that'd be really tough to turn down. But it's an easier trade for me to say yes to because I also like Parker a lot.

[M-C-G]

I know it is hard for some to understand, especially the Embiid die hards...but keep in mind, it is possible that people see Parker, and fully expect him to be better in 1,3,5 and 10 years than Embiid and Wiggins.

I get the interest in Embiid. What makes no sense to me at all is the current line of thinking from some which says Embiid is the only possible No. 1 pick and anyone who thinks it should be Wiggins or Parker is an idiot.

I get people's love for their prospect, but really dislike the implications that only a casual fan or local radio talkshow pawn would see it any other way.

It really makes the entire realgm board come off as pompous and unwelcoming. Everybody is right, and any other opinion is ludicrous. Which is a shame considering how much great content and posters are here.

[europa]

I know it is hard for some to understand, especially the Embiid die hards...but keep in mind, it is possible that people see Parker, and fully expect him to be better in 1,3,5 and 10 years than Embiid and Wiggins.

I get the interest in Embiid. What makes no sense to me at all is the current line of thinking from some which says Embiid is the only possible No. 1 pick and anyone who thinks it should be Wiggins or Parker is an idiot.

I get people's love for their prospect, but really dislike the implications that only a casual fan or local radio talkshow pawn would see it any other way.

It really makes the entire realgm board come off as pompous and unwelcoming. Everybody is right, and any other opinion is ludicrous. Which is a shame considering how much great content and posters are here.

Yup. This is a draft where "experts" have ranked each of the Top 3 guys No. 1 at some point in time. The idea that you're a clueless dolt who knows nothing about the game if you prefer Wiggins and/or Parker over Embiid smacks of misplaced arrogance.

[ReasonablySober]

Sure, Wiggins was the darling of the draft before the season. Then Parker had some huge games and he was the #1.

And then Embiid arrived and it's been a non-discussion since then. Sure, qualify it with the back injury stuff, but if he's healthy this is his draft.

[Badgerlander]

I really want Wiggins but if Embiid goes No. 1 and the Sixers come calling with 3/10 that'd be really tough to turn down. But it's an easier trade for me to say yes to because I also like Parker a lot.

PJ (CLT)
Chad - Do you think the Cavs and 76ers would both agree to a 1 for 3+10 swap? Seems like it would allow the Cavs to load up on picks they could move in tandem with someone like Waiters/Bennett/Thompson for an established star. Whereas the 76ers guarantee themselves Wiggins.

Chad Ford (1:10 PM)
I'm not sure the Sixers would do this. They need talent and that No. 10 pick is very valuable to them. I think they'd offer Thaddeus Young and 3 for No. 1, but including the 10th pick would be too much for them.

[europa]

If the Sixers aren't willing to part with the 10th pick I see no reason for the Bucks to even engage them in trade talks.

[paulpressey25]

I really want Wiggins but if Embiid goes No. 1 and the Sixers come calling with 3/10 that'd be really tough to turn down. But it's an easier trade for me to say yes to because I also like Parker a lot.

From an intangibles standpoint, Parker is the best fit for the Bucks. He's well known, well spoken and from just down the road. He's the type of high quality guy this franchise badly needs to get the casual fan and media re-engaged. And I think he'll be a natural leader. Everything about him screams "best fit" for the Bucks.

But if he ends up being Big Dog while Embiid and Wiggins end up being Hakeem and Dominque Wilkins w/elite defense, that's going to be a big problem about six-months after the draft.

Part of me wishes Embiid was staying in school another year. Then we could take whoever is left between Parker and Wiggins and not have any mental anguish over the decision.

[emunney]

It's a good draft and all, but that would show how little confidence they have that Wiggins is going to be significantly better than Parker.

[jr lucosa]

Sure, Wiggins was the darling of the draft before the season. Then Parker had some huge games and he was the #1.

And then Embiid arrived and it's been a non-discussion since then. Sure, qualify it with the back injury stuff, but if he's healthy this is his draft.

Yep, this has been the Embiid draft for about half a year now.

[europa]

I really want Wiggins but if Embiid goes No. 1 and the Sixers come calling with 3/10 that'd be really tough to turn down. But it's an easier trade for me to say yes to because I also like Parker a lot.

From an intangibles standpoint, Parker is the best fit for the Bucks. He's well known, well spoken and from just down the road. He's the type of high quality guy this franchise badly needs to get the casual fan and media re-engaged. And I think he'll be a natural leader.

For what it's worth nearly everything you describe above is the polar opposite of Glenn Robinson. So if you think Parker can be all those things I don't think you need to worry about him being another Big Dog.

[msiris]

Sorry Philly. Dream all you want, but Young is not worth moving down, so you can pick who you want.

[nikip43]

If you think you're the best player in the draft, then you don't go and work out for the team with the 2nd pick. I think his camp doesn't want to concede anything by "slumping" down to visit the #2 team. They want to stay a bit arrogant…which is fine.

Team Wiggins is A-okay with the teams "coming to them" because then it doesn't look like you concede that top pick slot. Team Wiggins then has “suitors” which is what this generation is all about with The Decision and high school kids turning recruiting into theatrical productions. I can appreciate the tactics involved from both sides and I’m fine with Milwaukee humbling themselves to making the flight to see him in a little workout.

Now if he goes and visits Philly next week then my comfort with Wiggins gets a little shaky.

[europa]

Sam Amico ‏@SamAmicoFSO 45s
Andrew Wiggins (Kansas) will work out for #Bucks on Friday.