Bucks talking Asik

BobbyLight · Post #21 » by **BobbyLight** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:04 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
wichmae wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:You better be making this up. Link?

Yup made it up

Sorry, I don't know you. And I don't see a link. Where did you see this rumor?

I can't point to anything specific, but I know he's had a few nuggets end up being correct. I am sure others can give examples.

wichmae · Post #22 » by **wichmae** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:04 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
wichmae wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:You better be making this up. Link?

Yup made it up

Sorry, I don't know you. And I don't see a link. Where did you see this rumor?

A phone call.

blazza18 · Post #23 » by **blazza18** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:04 pm

Wash.Rinse.Repeat with this team.

cinematographer · Post #24 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:06 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:Can't we just take Wolters and Brewer out of the deal? It's still dumb but at least I won't want to kill someone.

With Nate out of it and Asik flipped, it's fine.

JimmyTheKid · Post #25 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:06 pm

wichmae wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
wichmae wrote:Yup made it up

Sorry, I don't know you. And I don't see a link. Where did you see this rumor?

A phone call.

Oh, you're an insider. I didn't know.

The battle of the insiders as BuckPack reported today that nothing is going to happen for a few weeks.

I would hate to see Wolters go.

JimmyTheKid · Post #26 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:07 pm

cinematographer wrote:
Turk Nowitzki wrote:Can't we just take Wolters and Brewer out of the deal? It's still dumb but at least I won't want to kill someone.

With Nate out of it and Asik flipped, it's fine.

Agreed.

BobbyLight · Post #27 » by **BobbyLight** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:07 pm

I'd honestly be happier if we trade Knight at this point vs. Wolters.

wichmae · Post #28 » by **wichmae** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:08 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
wichmae wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Sorry, I don't know you. And I don't see a link. Where did you see this rumor?

A phone call.

Oh, you're an insider. I didn't know.

The battle of the insiders as BuckPack reported today that nothing is going to happen for a few weeks.

I would hate to see Wolters go.

Im not battling anyone. BP is way more in the know than I am. (BTW this cant happen for almost a week)

Wooderson · Post #29 » by **Wooderson** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:08 pm

When have the Bucks ever made a deal with the intention of flipping for a future asset? Not going to freak out yet, but if the initial deal doesn't involve shipping Asik to another team then it's time to be pissed.

Sherman Douglas · Post #30 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:09 pm

Yes, it's an awful stupid move.

But the tank still lives on. At this point, I'm just bracing for the hits along the way and keeping my eyes on the prize.

msiris · Post #31 » by **msiris** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:10 pm

I do not think Asik is a bad player if you have a somewhat of a good team. Not a needle mover. The FO better not still be thinking of the 8th seed. Giving up a young guy? What the hell.

JimmyTheKid · Post #32 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:11 pm

At least Brewer will take all of Giannis' minutes and some of Middleton's.

BobbyLight · Post #33 » by **BobbyLight** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:11 pm

At least it's just talk at this point. I'll keep my fingers crossed nothing happens.

The OP posting this out freaks me out way more than Marc Stein does, but it does give credence that Stein heard the right thing.

Can anyone explain Asik to me? I've seen very little of him and statistically he seems like an above average center, but nothing amazing. Is he good defensively? 1.1 BPG's last year is kinda weak... compared to what we have in Sanders/Henson.

bizarro · Post #34 » by **bizarro** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:12 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
wichmae wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Sorry, I don't know you. And I don't see a link. Where did you see this rumor?

A phone call.

Oh, you're an insider. I didn't know.

The battle of the insiders as BuckPack reported today that nothing is going to happen for a few weeks.

I would hate to see Wolters go.

BuckPack state a couple weeks (if at all). And, he also stated Ersan would be the focus. No Larry moved until his value gets back up (if it gets back up and if he is actually traded). No Giannis.

I would gather to say, that this rumor is pretty on par w/ BuckPack except for his assertion of a couple weeks.

And, I would be absolutely flabbergasted if we moved our 6'4" PG we traded up for in the draft. He's clearly our best PG right now. His shot is fixable. He is smart. Plays better than advertised defense. But, in all honesty, I'd be happy for Nate to get the hell out of this tranwreck of an organization.

Flip Asik. Keep Nate. I'm fine. Trade Nate. Keep Asik. Well, it's certainly better than the Harris deal but it also would demonstrate to me there is no hope for this front office. Not that there is any hope to begin with.

How did we all get stuck in this purgatory?!? Honestly...what did we do in past lives to be stuck following this ****?!?

Post #35 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:14 pm

BobbyLight wrote:At least it's just talk at this point. I'll keep my fingers crossed nothing happens.

The OP posting this out freaks me out way more than Marc Stein does, but it does give credence that Stein heard the right thing.

Can anyone explain Asik to me? I've seen very little of him and statistically he seems like an above average center, but nothing amazing. Is he good defensively? 1.1 BPG's last year is kinda weak... compared to what we have in Sanders/Henson.

He's a very good defensive center. He and Sanders couldn't play together, though.

If you're looking for something positive out of this, it probably doesn't increase wins.

cinematographer · Post #36 » by **cinematographer** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:14 pm

BobbyLight wrote:Can anyone explain Asik to me? I've seen very little of him and statistically he seems like an above average center, but nothing amazing. Is he good defensively? 1.1 BPG's last year is kinda weak... compared to what we have in Sanders/Henson.

Protects the rim, snatches up huge percentage of rebounds AND team has large rebound differential with him on court, very capable post defender. Rotations are a BIT slow but he usually sees where he needs to be before that's an issue.

Performed well in Chicago AND Houston. Our scheme might leave him a bit more out to dry, but he's the best player in the trade.

Which is partly why it's so **** terrible to make.

LUKE23 · Post #37 » by **LUKE23** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:15 pm

Better not happen.

wichmae · Post #38 » by **wichmae** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:16 pm

The biggest issue I stated with this on the call is that unless LS is moved Asik would never be happy here. He doesnt want to play 2nd unit or be a under 30 min guy. LS and him would never work minute wise.

AussieBuck · Post #39 » by **AussieBuck** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:16 pm

2 of the three young guys we have worth a damn are centers so we are going to trade for a starting C. **** retards. As awesome as Asik is though we don't get better because we lose our only PG and our spacing in the front court.

Sherman Douglas · Post #40 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:17 pm

After thinking some more I'm now really angry. Even if this trade doesn't happen, we now know that it's extremely likely we're going to do some similar **** move before the deadline. Can Herb Kohl please just keel over already?