Bucks looking at Bledsoe, probably.

Baddy Chuck · Post #21 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:45 pm

Fresh_Prince12 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
Fresh_Prince12 wrote:If we do a sign and trade for Bledsoe don't be surprise if Giannis is going back to the suns. What other assets do we honestly have?

Ersan, Henson and Knight along with a max contract.

That's not even close to getting Bledsoe.

If they're on the fence about matching a max contract I bet it is.

Majik7 · Post #22 » by **Majik7** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:46 pm

This sure is shaping up to be one hell of an interesting offseason. I thought all the discussion about going after Bledsoe was a bit too much of wishful thinking, but now that the Bucks have legit interest in pursuing him sign me up! Bledsoe, Giannis, Parker, and a refocused Sanders

Max Green · Post #23 » by **Max Green** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:46 pm

Bledsoe is obviously my first choice but I would still be happy just to pick up Lin or Vasquez as long as we don't overpay for them.

Serge28 · Post #24 » by **Serge28** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:46 pm

I hate the idea of getting Lin. He's very overrated in my opinion and is overly reliant on having the ball in his hands. I don't think we have a realistic shot at getting Bledsoe. I'm all for Vazquez though. The guy is actually a terrific true point guard with a great outside shot. He'd be perfect for us. A point guard rotation of Vazquez/Wolters would be our best since Cassell/Hunter in 2001.

Fresh_Prince12 · Post #25 » by **Fresh_Prince12** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:47 pm

cinematographer wrote:
Fresh_Prince12 wrote:If we do a sign and trade for Bledsoe don't be surprise if Giannis is going back to the suns. What other assets do we honestly have?

That's not happening in our universe or any other universe in the real/imaginary time x/y plot.

During kidds presser he never even mentions Giannis. I think we have more faith in him the. The owners/kidd

cinematographer · Post #26 » by **cinematographer** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:48 pm

Bledsoe/Inglis/Giannis/Parker/Sanders could murder teams in 3 or 4 years.

Bernman · Post #27 » by **Bernman** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:48 pm

Fresh_Prince12 wrote:If we do a sign and trade for Bledsoe don't be surprise if Giannis is going back to the suns. What other assets do we honestly have?

We should be shocked about that. Giannis projects to be a bigger part of the future than Bledosoe would be with his size, effort, and unique skill-set. I'm 99% sure he wouldn't be exchanged for Bledsoe.

And what other assets do we honestly have? We have a lot, i.e.: Henson, Knight, maybe Sanders, maybe Ilyasova, Middleton, future 1sts, etc. All of whom would more likely be jettisoned in an s&t for Bledsoe than Giannis. Why should they get more than Henson and Knight? An S&T is successful for the team doing the initial signing so long as they get any value in it. People should have seen they weren't dead-set on maxing out Bledsoe when they drafted Ennis instead of big help which they desperately need. Either they aren't sold that he's worth the max, or they have different ideas for how to allocate their funds the next few years like making a run at LBJ, Bosh, Melo, Wade, etc.

Serge28 · Post #28 » by **Serge28** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:49 pm

One more plus to potentially signing Vazquez - he's a 6'6" 211 lbs point guard. Would certainly make it palatable to start Knight at SG without putting yourself at a mismatch disadvantage.

Post #29 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:49 pm

Getting Bledsoe probably ends the thought of getting another high lotto pick, barring another nightmare season in terms of health and dopiness from Sanders. Fine with that, I guess.

Sherman Douglas · Post #30 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:50 pm

This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

Fresh_Prince12 · Post #31 » by **Fresh_Prince12** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:50 pm

The reason I don't like any of this is because I don't trust Hammond dealing with these gms. Those guys are like lions and Hammond is the injured gazelle that strayed from the pack. I don't think any good could come from this

Bernman · Post #32 » by **Bernman** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:51 pm

Fresh_Prince12 wrote:During kidds presser he never even mentions Giannis. I think we have more faith in him the. The owners/kidd

People are reading all sorts of dumb crap into the quotes of a 5 minute press conference.

The amount of people who don't have much faith in Giannis in the basketball world are very few with his unique attributes. He's not a proven player, but who doesn't see a lot of promise in that kid?!?! So I'm pretty sure you're wrong.

cinematographer · Post #33 » by **cinematographer** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:51 pm

I don't mind General Greivis and get that we only have one PG on the roster but I hope Wolters would start over him.

ampd · Post #34 » by **ampd** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:51 pm

WiscoKing13 wrote:Wasn't it pretty well reported prior to the start of FA that phx would match any offer? I'd be very apprehensive offering him anything over 12 mil a year.

I'd offer him the max. Make Phoenix at least match it.

cinematographer · Post #35 » by **cinematographer** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:53 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

We'd be giving up nothing in the Lin trade. We'd receive other assets in return for something like a protected second round pick or the draft rights to Eurelijus Zukauskas.

Sherman Douglas · Post #36 » by **Sherman Douglas** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:54 pm

Can someone explain to me the appeal of Lin or Vasquez? I'm honestly surprised everyone isn't 100% against those moves. Those guys are not impact players but the kind of "limbo" signing we'd expect from Kohl/Hammond that seems aimed at getting us the 8th seed.

Bledsoe I like.

Baddy Chuck · Post #37 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:54 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:This is what I was worried about, Bledsoe aside. Lin and Vasquez are Herb Kohl-esque win now moves. Kidd wants to win now.

Lin would be an asset grab and Vasquez would be a stop gap guy who can get the ball to our young stars.

vegaspacker · Post #38 » by **vegaspacker** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:54 pm

I'd like Bledsoe for Henson and Knight... prolly have to swap firsts with reasonable protection. It is a swing for the fences move post injury prone...

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WEFFPIM · Post #39 » by **WEFFPIM** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:54 pm

I fail to see how any of these are win now moves. Lin certainly isn't. Bledsoe and Vazquez are young needs.

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gaspar · Post #40 » by **gaspar** » Sat Jul 5, 2014 7:55 pm

Bernman wrote: People should have seen they weren't dead-set on maxing out Bledsoe when they drafted Ennis instead of big help which they desperately need.

That's nonsense. Ish Smith was getting a lot of minutes even with healthy Bledsoe and Dragic. The Suns needed upgrade at backup PG as much as anywhere else in the rotation. And what big men were available in the draft at #18? Stokes and McGary? Puh-lease.