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Baddy Chuck · Post #21 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:03 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
drone3 wrote:I'm ready to attach a 1st to Henson. East is going to be super weak, we will probably be in the top 4.

Patience. Greg Monroe Expiring Contract (GMEC) and possibly the Bucks 2018 first is going to bring back a really quality asset sometime in the next 8 months.

Why did you bump this post from last offseason?

randy84 · Post #22 » by **randy84** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:04 am

It still makes me laugh that the signature moves of our new owners were MCW and Monroe.

BucksFanSD · Post #23 » by **BucksFanSD** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:07 am

Plossum wrote:Snell is a lot better than McLemore. Snell isn't great but at least he's an NBA quality player. McLemore won't be in the league much longer.

McLemore is better than Stauskas and Stauskas has only been better since he got off the dysfunctional Kings. Also B-Mac's 3 pointer % has increased each year. His best NBA days are ahead of him.

Post #24 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:08 am

randy84 wrote:It still makes me laugh that the signature moves of our new owners were MCW and Monroe.

And yet we survive them both if they hadn't blown the Vaughn pick and sent out 1/2 for Grievis.

That's the issue. They **** every move up from February 2015 till June 2016 save for the Middleton extension. Then they redeemed themselves with Thon/Brogdon but cancelled it out with Plums, Delly, Telly.

CJTURT · Post #25 » by **CJTURT** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:08 am

Must. Trade. For. FARIED!!!

trwi7 · Post #26 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:10 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
drone3 wrote:I'm ready to attach a 1st to Henson. East is going to be super weak, we will probably be in the top 4.

Patience. Greg Monroe Expiring Contract (GMEC) and possibly the Bucks 2018 first is going to bring back a really quality asset sometime in the next 8 months.

Baddy Chuck · Post #27 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:12 am

CJTURT wrote:Must. Trade. For. FARIED!!!

Post #28 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:15 am

trwi7 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
drone3 wrote:I'm ready to attach a 1st to Henson. East is going to be super weak, we will probably be in the top 4.

Patience. Greg Monroe Expiring Contract (GMEC) and possibly the Bucks 2018 first is going to bring back a really quality asset sometime in the next 8 months.

Hinkie would figure out how to send Monroe and our first to Portland for McCollum at the deadline. Horst, not so much.

SupremeHustle · Post #29 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:17 am

Bucks Finish 39-43, Secure 4th Seed in the East.

trwi7 · Post #30 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:18 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
Patience. Greg Monroe Expiring Contract (GMEC) and possibly the Bucks 2018 first is going to bring back a really quality asset sometime in the next 8 months.

Hinkie would figure out how to send Monroe and our first to Portland for McCollum at the deadline. Horst, not so much.

Once again, you seem to be all in on this free agent frenzy where teams are going to unload really good players for expirings for the small chance that they sign one of the big name free agents. That didn't happen in 2010 and it's not going to happen now. Hinkie or not nobody is trading a really good asset for an expiring and a mid 1st for the less than 5% chance they sign one of the top free agents.

randy84 · Post #31 » by **randy84** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:20 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Bucks Finish 39-43, Secure 4th Seed in the East.

Lose to Hammond's Magic in six.

Post #32 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:26 am

trwi7 wrote:
Once again, you seem to be all in on this free agent frenzy where teams are going to unload really good players for expirings for the small chance that they sign one of the big name free agents. That didn't happen in 2010 and it's not going to happen now. Hinkie or not nobody is trading a really good asset for an expiring and a mid 1st for the less than 5% chance they sign one of the top free agents.

Your're going to have 2-3 teams next year that will be facing bad luxury tax problems. And by February it will be clear they suck and need to pitch something over the side or else pay a $50 million dollar luxury tax penalty. Think Portland or Miami or LAC.

Example: In 2003 the Bucks were again underachieving and facing a huge lux tax bill. They pitched Ray over the the side for Payton's expiring.

Our problem is we don't have Hinkie-like thinkers to game plan this out and execute on it.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #33 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:30 am

ChuckDiesel wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
ChuckDiesel wrote:We better **** get out of this **** first round in this **** ass conference

Cleveland, Boston, Toronto, Washington. I don't see it happening this year. I think we're one year away yet but I do have us as the 5th seed. Miami should be decent and that brings us to the #7 seed...

It's really sad to start the season believing we can't beat Boston, Toronto or Washington in a playoff series.

I never said we can't beat them, I just predict that we won't.

bizarro · Post #34 » by **bizarro** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:32 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Example: In 2003 the Bucks were again underachieving and facing a huge lux tax bill. They pitched Ray over the the side for Payton's expiring.

Our problem is we don't have Hinkie-like thinkers to game plan this out and execute on it.

But, but, but...Hinkie was just a Tanker! Now we have a publicly declared Cap Expert!

BroncoBuck · Post #35 » by **BroncoBuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:34 am

Cannot believe people are advocating for McLemore. He would've been a perfect signing for the Shanghai Sharks.

If Wesley Johnson was the NBA's Mendoza line for shooting guards McLemore would have one foot out of the league.

Post #36 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:36 am

bizarro wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Example: In 2003 the Bucks were again underachieving and facing a huge lux tax bill. They pitched Ray over the the side for Payton's expiring.

Our problem is we don't have Hinkie-like thinkers to game plan this out and execute on it.

But, but, but...Hinkie was just a Tanker! Now we have a publicly declared Cap Expert!

As we always lament our mess, a good fix is always only 12 months away. Assuming we have the right person running things.

trwi7 · Post #37 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 4:51 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
trwi7 wrote:
Once again, you seem to be all in on this free agent frenzy where teams are going to unload really good players for expirings for the small chance that they sign one of the big name free agents. That didn't happen in 2010 and it's not going to happen now. Hinkie or not nobody is trading a really good asset for an expiring and a mid 1st for the less than 5% chance they sign one of the top free agents.

Your going to have 2-3 teams next year that will be facing bad luxury tax problems. And by February it will be clear they suck and need to pitch something over the side or else pay a $50 million dollar luxury tax penalty. Think Portland or Miami or LAC.

Example: In 2003 the Bucks were again underachieving and facing a huge lux tax bill. They pitched Ray over the the side for Payton's expiring.

Our problem is we don't have Hinkie-like thinkers to game plan this out and execute on it.

And we would then be facing the same luxury tax problem. It's nice that you think our billionaire with a b owners are willing to pay it but everything they've done lately seems to indicate that they aren't.

Pachinko_ · Post #38 » by **Pachinko_** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 5:23 am

Despite the accumulated clusterfrak that is our roster and cap I'm fairly confident we're a HCA team.

WAS and TOR didn't really scare me last year and they didn't improve in anything, especially TOR just got older and lost one player.

From our side I expect a couple of our guys to improve, particularly healthy Khris and Thon. Also I'm pretty high on Brown being the two way bench guy we didn't have last year.

I'm not even counting that Giannis might come back shooting better, Jabari might be healthy and Kidd might wake up one day not being a total derp.

worthlessBucks · Post #39 » by **worthlessBucks** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 5:27 am

I can't attach an asset to dump Henson unless there was something good on the horizon. Like if we had some sort of plan that came after using an asset to clear salary. Or had someone smart in charge. :usa:

FlagsFlyForever · Post #40 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jul 3, 2017 5:51 am

Plossum wrote:Gonna have to agree to disagree on this one ElPeregrino. I don't think the Raps are close to the '04 Mavs, '11 Mavs or Hakeem's Rockets. I think a more apt comparison are the New Jersey Nets teams of the 2000s (and for the record I think this Nets teams was more talented but it's not a big stretch) or the Joe Johnson/Horford Hawks circa 2010.

I respect that people disagree but Hakeem's Rockets were by no means a dominant team. They won back-to-back championships but four of their eight series went to game 7 (one was actually game 5 in a best-of-five). I consider those Rockets teams to be some of the weakest champions ever.