Woj on Russillo show rips our FO/Giannis at risk if no improvement

[BrewCityBBQ]

I think this is great that the national media is calling out our front office. The more pressure is put on these guys the better. If they f this up for us fans I say we riot.

Its still crazy to me that not even that long ago everyone was singing the praises of the Milwaukee Bucks and how we are up and coming with a great future, to now it seems like the sky is falling. A lot can happen between now and even the end of summer much less when Giannis becomes a free agent.

[sdn40]

There is no pressure on our front office. The fans are paying for half the arena and Kohl is paying another 100 million.
Game over. I'd bet the odds are 50/50 that they would love to not be paying Giannis' salary right now.

[Magic Giannison]

You're right its just the way he compares it to Jazz and Hayward situation really portraits it like there is no hope for us.

I think every small market got nervous over the events of the past week when George forced his way out of Indy and Hayward (a very good player but not a superstar) turned away $45 million additional of guaranteed money to leave a good Utah organization to go to Boston.

Unfortunately the CBA doesn't have an opt-out until 2022. But if more guys leave you'll finally see a true franchise player tag. Would be easy to do.

I think we got a bigger advantage of having Giannis stay if things go smoothly than these two. PG always wanted to play for LA and Hayward loves Brad Stevens while Giannis genuinely likes us and wants to stay.I think instead of counting on that and pry it works we need to do something about it and support it. The WOj and generally national media questioning our FO should be a HUGE wake up call.
This is not some fans overreacting or reading it wrong, these are reputable guys telling our FO to wake up before its too late.

[H2tObes]

I really do hope this negative media attention is a wake up call for these guys, this stuff could be a blessing in disguise.

But I think we all knows there's a good possibility Giannis will leave if we aren't a contender in 4 years, Woj isn't breaking any news here really

[I Hate Manure]

What the hell are we supposed to do this season? Hammond signed some bad but not devastating contracts but we do have a solid young core. If Brogdon improves and Thon is the real deal. I wouldn't be too worried. Giannis isn't going to hold it against the organization that Jabari keeps getting hurt or Teletovic didn't pan out.

Its not just one season but the collective of dumb crap we are doing. Look at Vasquez and MCW trades, look at Henson and Plumlee contracts,look at how we are in a mess and playing with 2 rookies as starters while our cap is maxed,look at our FO struggle and the GM mess up. All these add up to the pool that makes our organization unhealthy. We need to change and change FAST.

We haven't been lucky, plain and simple. There are some terrible moves there over the years but the real problem has been bad luck. We've found good players over the years but something always come up whether it's Redd's injuries, friction in Karl's locker room, Bogut not being able to stay on the court, Larry going all Ricky Williams, and now one of the best draft picks we ever had being injury prone. Guys like Henson would probably be decent role players on other teams but he is a lazy, unmotivated bum here.

We just need to get ONE of these free agents to pan out. We've drafted well over the last number of years. We have a core, so it's not like things are hopeless despite Jabari. Just need some mid-tier free agent to come here and not play like a piece of sh**.

[DanoMac]

What we know is that our owners have absolutely massive, massive egos. Inflated as ****. My worry is that they're too self-righteous to treat Giannis like a king for the next 4 years. They put themselves on pedestals, when Giannis needs to be the one on a pedestal. Herb was always good about that, and so was the organization at the time, doing everything with Giannis' family and whatnot. I hope that we don't overlook that.

If Giannis leaves, whether it because of the owners or the product on the floor, or both, I'm going to be so emotionally devastated and emotionally exhausted that I don't know if I'll be able to continue being a fan.

[mke_design]

As much as I think woj is taking a collective leak on the bucks on a regular occasion because there isn't much in the way of talking about the bucks outside of Giannis, he's definitely compelling even casual fans to check this FO at the door and start to hold them more accountable. 2 years from now if it's still 1 and done, sideshow garbage and milwaukee tax payers realize they've got a dick in their hands heads could roll rather quickly.


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[Pachinko_]

No that's BS, easy way out.

If Giannis is not happy with how the organisation works, and he shouldn't be, Giannis should get more involved. He should let them know. He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

[Bernman]

We paid more than they did for the new arena, so how about fans getting the majority vote on all personnel moves (they act like they want to be cutting edge)? They've had their chance to be fantasy gm's, and we've seen how that's worked out. Now how bout our turn to turn things around to keep Giannis in town. Obviously just a normal f.o. dynamic would be best, but we can't exactly have faith in that occurring so long as the decision-making process isn't public. They've earned skepticism it'll usually just be them and their inept cronies.

[humanrefutation]

I mean, this isn't news. I don't care if the mighty Woj is saying it, anyone who has paid attention to free agency recognizes that there is a significant risk Giannis will go elsewhere in a few years. It doesn't matter if he says he loves Milwaukee or says that he won't leave. I'll believe it when he puts pen to paper on the next extension.

This is the reality of our situation. We have a generational talent with some good surrounding pieces. If the front office doesn't make the most out of these next few years; if we're not in title contention, there's a good chance he'll go somewhere where he will be.

And I won't blame him, even as I acknowledge how crushing that would be to the franchise and my fandom.

[Magic Giannison]

No that's BS, easy way out.

If Giannis is not happy with how the organisation works, and he shouldn't be, Giannis should get more involved. He should let them know. He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

What?

Giannis should do what all players do, focus on improving his game an think only about that.Just because Lebron does it now doesnt mean Giannis can or should, heck Lebron at his age had no power whatsoever at Cleveland hence he left and established himself with Heat.

Instead of blaming the incompetence of our organization to Giannis maybe we should tell our owners to wake up.

[mke_design]

No that's BS, easy way out.

If Giannis is not happy with how the organisation works, and he shouldn't be, Giannis should get more involved. He should let them know. He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

I'm sure when the time comes he will put everyone in the exact place they need to be. Giannis is probably riding high off of being touted a superstar, being an all star all NBA guy, now it's time to win. If next season is a bust - part of it will fall on his level of play but I'm going to guess he won't be shy about the other part that needs fixing.


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[Pachinko_]

No that's BS, easy way out.

If Giannis is not happy with how the organisation works, and he shouldn't be, Giannis should get more involved. He should let them know. He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

What?

Giannis should do what all players do, focus on improving his game an think only about that.Just because Lebron does it now doesnt mean Giannis can or should, heck Lebron at his age had no power whatsoever at Cleveland hence he left and established himself with Heat.

Instead of blaming the incompetence of our organization to Giannis maybe we should tell our owners to wake up.

the owners don't give a **** about you and me obviously, but they would **** their pants if Giannis told them "hey next contract is one year with player option, any sign of **** and I'm out, get your **** together"

[mke_design]

Pretty much. When Giannis got here, he latched on to Milwaukee and the people because he had to. Can't even imagine coming from another country like he did. But alas, as he becomes more comfortable with America, and most importantly, as he gets other players in his ear, he will become more and more open to other options.

Two problems the NBA has to fix, but it may already be too late:
FA - Teams have to be compensated handsomely for losing superstars by no fault of their own
Draft - It's become barely a notch above the MLB draft - pathetic. Remember the good ole days ?

Without fixing these two things its going to be all about the next big FA and nothing else will matter
The NBA is imploding under the weight of it's own success - shocker

I agree that this CBA is out of hand and going full tilt to the players, the problem is it can't forever because there just isn't enough money to do so and players are understandably greedy. You can't continue to pile the all stars at the top that were fed from bottom feeders without those bottom feeders dying out. The well needs to be a little more rich and teams need to benefit more from picking good talent and developing it.


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[VooDoo7]

He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

[Magic Giannison]

No that's BS, easy way out.

If Giannis is not happy with how the organisation works, and he shouldn't be, Giannis should get more involved. He should let them know. He has a lot of power and he should stop playing the innocent "Me Greek, me no speak England" role.

What?

Giannis should do what all players do, focus on improving his game an think only about that.Just because Lebron does it now doesnt mean Giannis can or should, heck Lebron at his age had no power whatsoever at Cleveland hence he left and established himself with Heat.

Instead of blaming the incompetence of our organization to Giannis maybe we should tell our owners to wake up.

the owners don't give a **** about you and me obviously, but they would **** their pants if Giannis told them "hey next contract is one year with player option, any sign of **** and I'm out, get your **** together"

I understand what you mean but that still doesn't change the fact that our organization is **** up if Giannis is forced to do that.If Giannis later on wants to get involved then for sure but now he priority should be improving as best he can and then if his influence needed im sure he will do it.

[DanoMac]

At least one of our many bad moves (Delly) is Giannis' favorite teammate of all time. I dunno.

[MickeyDavis]

I'm enjoying reading the psychoanalysis of Giannis' thoughts and desires.

[M-C-G]

At least one of our many bad moves (Delly) is Giannis' favorite teammate of all time. I dunno.

And Lebron loved Mo Williams. Till he didn't.


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[H2tObes]

But what if Giannis isn't a liar and actually stays no matter what? That would be cool. Happy thoughts