Should we replace Bud now ? (58 season games remaining)

[Matches Malone]

Comes down to the playoffs for me. If we continue to flounder, you need to make a move after the season.

My worry is the owners making a dumb trade involving Middleton before firing Bud, giving him one last chance with a shuffled deck.

[Ruben Quevedo]

He's not getting fired, obviously.

I'm *extremely* skeptical he can hang with the best coaches in the league, but right now the biggest problem with the team is our roster. We're in year 3 of MVP Giannis and we still have no one who can be the small-ball 4, and we still don't have more than 3 players who can switch in a pinch and aren't total zeroes on offense.

[Coach Carter]

A poster here told me to make a poll
about firing Bud weeks ago. I think now is the most appropriate time to decide if he is worth keeping or we need something new. I believe 58 games is just enough time for a new coach to set new schemes.

Is it time to move on from Bud ?
Should we replace him ?
58 Season games remaining
Yes or No ?
Why ?
If Yes name some coaches that you believe we have more chances with them.

I made 4 options in order to separate the ones who are disgusted , the ones who want to change but not immediately, the ones who trust Bud and the ones who believe he is the lesser bad coach we can have

That was me and thanks.

When bud was in Atlanta, I said that he was wasting his time and we should go get him because I knew with the talents of Khris n Giannis, we can be doing so much better in the regular season. If you want to get better, you have to prove it first in the regular season and bud ball works especially against the deadbeat sides. In the playoffs, against the better sides n coaches, he has been outcoached. His system heavily relies on good shooting. If you were to surround Giannis with the likes of Harris n bertans etc, then yeah it can work but there's a handful of elite shooters and every team wants them. At the other end, you need quick guards to compensate for his paint defense. I agree with the notion that he has taken us as far as he can and I think by getting rid of him now, it means us saving time to adjust to a coach that specializes in the half court.

[LuessiT]

He's not getting fired, obviously.

I'm *extremely* skeptical he can hang with the best coaches in the league, but right now the biggest problem with the team is our roster. We're in year 3 of MVP Giannis and we still have no one who can be the small-ball 4, and we still don't have more than 3 players who can switch in a pinch and aren't total zeroes on offense.

I think Khris is a perfectly fine small ball 4 in todays NBA.

[KidA24]

He's not getting fired, obviously.

I'm *extremely* skeptical he can hang with the best coaches in the league, but right now the biggest problem with the team is our roster. We're in year 3 of MVP Giannis and we still have no one who can be the small-ball 4, and we still don't have more than 3 players who can switch in a pinch and aren't total zeroes on offense.

I think Khris is a perfectly fine small ball 4 in todays NBA.

When they go small Giannis still plays the 4. At least over the past two seasons. That's where the issue lies. Is that Giannis or Bud? I can't say.

[mediocrityrules]

The most popular vote option if it was available would be 'no - give him until the end of the season and see how we end up'

[blazza18]

I'd have moved on from him after the bubble but he'll probably get let go after a 2nd round exit he'll have very little to do with this season. I think our depth/player playoff limitations are a bigger problem than Bud this year.

[Prez]

I'd have moved on from him after the bubble but he'll probably get let go after a 2nd round exit he'll have very little to do with this season. I think our depth/player playoff limitations are a bigger problem than Bud this year.

Are you confident in his playoff coaching? I would bet on him having much more than ‘very little’ to do with a 2nd round exit tbh.

Depth is definitely a problem though. Bench needs a total overhaul outside of Bobby and maaaaybe Craig.

[blazza18]

I'd have moved on from him after the bubble but he'll probably get let go after a 2nd round exit he'll have very little to do with this season. I think our depth/player playoff limitations are a bigger problem than Bud this year.

Are you confident in his playoff coaching? I would bet on him having much more than ‘very little’ to do with a 2nd round exit tbh.

Depth is definitely a problem though. Bench needs a total overhaul outside of Bobby and maaaaybe Craig.

I'm not but I also think there is only so much a coach can do given how few actual playoff rotation guys we have. And I think I have less confidence in Giannis figuring things out over anything else right now.

[raferfenix]

Holding out hope that the Bucks are working behind the scenes to recruit Masai to be POBO, in which case he gets to pick who is coaching next year (whether Horst stays or not).

If a new front office structure is at all possible you don't commit to a new coach before it's established.

[Jez2983]

No, but I'm not voting as I don't like the caveats on every option.

Agree that our bench depth is pretty terrible. I'd add Pat to the list of bench options I can tolerate, but obviously he could be moved for an upgrade.

[BucksFanSD]

My two cents... our bench is not as bad as it appears. I believe Bud's issue is that Nwora, Merrill, and Wilson would result in more winning basketball than who he puts on the floor but Bud can't change budge his initial plans. He also doesn't involve Jrue enough.

SInce Giannis is re-signed I give Bud the full year then move on if we don't succeed.

[LuessiT]

My two cents... our bench is not as bad as it appears. I believe Bud's issue is that Nwora, Merrill, and Wilson would result in more winning basketball than who he puts on the floor but Bud can't change budge his initial plans. He also doesn't involve Jrue enough.

SInce Giannis is re-signed I give Bud the full year then move on if we don't succeed.

I have to disagree on the bolded part big time here. I understand being excited about our rookies and they've shown some flashes but both of these guys have shown enough in actual games that they shouldn't belong in the rotation, especially Nwora. I would understand your argument if you framed your argument in a way that it's better for the overall ceiling of this team giving these guys reps to maybe enhance their developement, but if it comes winning basketball these two are far away.

[diener34]

There is no shot of the Bucks firing Bud short of some off the court thing that would be for cause.

I would replace if I had 100% certainty that the person taking the job had adjustments already in his mind for making the team better. It would be useless to have a Prunty situation. If you've talked to Ham and he's your guy, and you have 100% trust in his vision, then go for it.

IMO, I only keep Bud if they play well in the finals. Short of that, I'm finding someone young and hungry who has big plans for Jrue, Khris and Giannis.

[BucksFanSD]

My two cents... our bench is not as bad as it appears. I believe Bud's issue is that Nwora, Merrill, and Wilson would result in more winning basketball than who he puts on the floor but Bud can't change budge his initial plans. He also doesn't involve Jrue enough.

SInce Giannis is re-signed I give Bud the full year then move on if we don't succeed.

I have to disagree on the bolded part big time here. I understand being excited about our rookies and they've shown some flashes but both of these guys have shown enough in actual games that they shouldn't belong in the rotation, especially Nwora. I would understand your argument if you framed your argument in a way that it's better for the overall ceiling of this team giving these guys reps to maybe enhance their developement, but if it comes winning basketball these two are far away.

Just my two cents again, but I haven't seen enough in actual games to justify they shouldn't get more of a chance than the bench players that are playing every game with no end in sight. The current product has been bad, so the bar is low. Really my point is, it's worth exploring in real, meaningful stretches. I believe they would raise the bar, or at the very least, find out if the bar is capable of being raised. I've seen enough from all of our bench players to believe that they might.

[WRau1]

I think Horst will be let go before Bud, especially if we don't make the finals. The new GM will likely give Bud a bit before bringing in his own guy, unless a big name becomes available.

[AussieBuck]

Bud's on the hot seat, also Horst needs to move Brook for a mobile big and get another useful buyout dude. We need Bud to change his ways but Brook can only really play the drop.

[midranger]

I’m on board with the Masai gets to pick his own coach plan

[Perishable517]

How bout just making one of the options "NO."

Right!?

Some out here act like we are 2-10 at the moment.

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[Perishable517]

Nope, so far he's walked the walk and talked the talk as far as most of the biggest complaints about him. We're 9-5 and two of our losses went down to the final shot. Those types of games tend to end up evening out over the course of a season. I'm not a fan of some of the rotations we're seeing, but we're also only 14 games in and I think it's completely reasonable to be throwing different guys into different situations. If we fail early in this years playoffs, then probably.

Especially with the turnover and short camp.

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