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Game 2: Hawks at Bucks - 10/29/23 - 6:00 - BSWI

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Post#21 » by Dick Tate » Sun Oct 29, 2023 6:01 am

There’s a level of antsiness being the last team with a 1 game sample size when 9 teams already have 3. Need more to chew on.
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Post#22 » by Turk Nowitzki » Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:05 am

Dick Tate wrote:There’s a level of antsiness being the last team with a 1 game sample size when 9 teams already have 3. Need more to chew on.

It's genuinely amazing to be getting **** over by scheduling in the first week of the season.
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Post#23 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sun Oct 29, 2023 10:28 am

Dick Tate wrote:There’s a level of antsiness being the last team with a 1 game sample size when 9 teams already have 3.

Is it just me or does this happen to us every year?
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Post#24 » by Giannis4Life34 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:53 pm

Makes no sense 1 game in 5 days to start the season and then a back to back when it doesn’t have to be. This all but guarantees Middleton/Giannis will rest one of these. I know middleton is already scheduled out tonight but if Adam Silver wants to correct issues this is only causing one.
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Post#25 » by Giannis4Life34 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:54 pm

Looking for Giannis to lead the charge tonight while Dame takes a step back. With Middleton out wouldn’t be surprised to see Giannis and Dame both with 30 points.
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Post#26 » by Bucksmaniac » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:28 pm

I think this one is a loss. First of a B2B so we may not play all out, Hawks coming off of two losses but still plenty talented enough. Also they were a bad matchup last year, though thankfully the Holidays are gone, they always played above their norms when playing against him.

I am a little perplexed though why we can’t play Middleton 15-20 mins when it’s a home B2B? Home B2Bs are pretty innocuous, no sleep deprivation of travel.
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Post#27 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:41 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:I think this one is a loss. First of a B2B so we may not play all out, Hawks coming off of two losses but still plenty talented enough. Also they were a bad matchup last year, though thankfully the Holidays are gone, they always played above their norms when playing against him.

I am a little perplexed though why we can’t play Middleton 15-20 mins when it’s a home B2B? Home B2Bs are pretty innocuous, no sleep deprivation of travel.

Khris is on a strict minutes limit. Even with limited minutes no way he goes B2B yet until he's back to normal and that will be awhile as they ramp him up.
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Post#28 » by Bucksmaniac » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:46 pm

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Bucksmaniac wrote:I think this one is a loss. First of a B2B so we may not play all out, Hawks coming off of two losses but still plenty talented enough. Also they were a bad matchup last year, though thankfully the Holidays are gone, they always played above their norms when playing against him.

I am a little perplexed though why we can’t play Middleton 15-20 mins when it’s a home B2B? Home B2Bs are pretty innocuous, no sleep deprivation of travel.

Khris is on a strict minutes limit. Even with limited minutes no way he goes B2B yet until he's back to normal and that will be awhile as they ramp him up.


I get that they want to be strict about it but to me I’m not sure it makes much logical sense. If they didn’t have a back to back they’d probably be practicing today, is a practice with the team much less strenuous than playing 15-20 mins in a game? If he can’t handle 16 mins or so in back to back days now I’d say there’s no way he can handle a back to back the rest of his career (or 40 minutes in playoff games).
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Post#29 » by Milbucks96 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:50 pm

A week or two ago I was scared that Khris was still hurt and it was a replay of his last season (which was **** weird and worrying). But after seeing him go in the preseason and opener and all the stuff they’re
saying and doing seems like he’s good at the moment. When he came back last season on a restriction, he looked terrible physically and in pain most of the time. If he’s still on a minutes restriction past the 6th-7th game timeline they gave, I’ll start to worry again but I like what they’re doing right now.
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Post#30 » by Daver » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:01 pm

Giannis4Life34 wrote:Makes no sense 1 game in 5 days to start the season and then a back to back when it doesn’t have to be. This all but guarantees Middleton/Giannis will rest one of these. I know middleton is already scheduled out tonight but if Adam Silver wants to correct issues this is only causing one.



Other than midds i dont know why giannis or anyone else needs to take off.No travel both games at home.No better way of getting back into basketbsll shape thsn by playing 25 mins or so tonight n tomorrow
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Post#31 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:34 pm

Unless someone gets dinged up tonight I think everyone plays tomorrow night. We'll see.

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Post#32 » by Prez » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:34 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:
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Bucksmaniac wrote:I think this one is a loss. First of a B2B so we may not play all out, Hawks coming off of two losses but still plenty talented enough. Also they were a bad matchup last year, though thankfully the Holidays are gone, they always played above their norms when playing against him.

I am a little perplexed though why we can’t play Middleton 15-20 mins when it’s a home B2B? Home B2Bs are pretty innocuous, no sleep deprivation of travel.

Khris is on a strict minutes limit. Even with limited minutes no way he goes B2B yet until he's back to normal and that will be awhile as they ramp him up.


I get that they want to be strict about it but to me I’m not sure it makes much logical sense. If they didn’t have a back to back they’d probably be practicing today, is a practice with the team much less strenuous than playing 15-20 mins in a game? If he can’t handle 16 mins or so in back to back days now I’d say there’s no way he can handle a back to back the rest of his career (or 40 minutes in playoff games).

It’s not that he can’t handle it, it’s that they’re being overly cautious given what a mess last season was for him, which makes total sense. There’s no reason to risk anything in October for a guy coming off of an offseason surgery.
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Post#33 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:06 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Unless someone gets dinged up tonight I think everyone plays tomorrow night. We'll see.

Bill Kennedy, Tre Maddox and Brett Nansel officiating.


So we are definitely getting Marc Davis on Monday and that means 2 quick cheap fouls for Giannis
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Post#34 » by PG Graveyard » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:07 pm

Crowder will probably start in Mids place right?
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Post#35 » by tedbrogen » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:39 pm

I think people keep forgetting Midds has had a knee issue since college. The procedure this offseason was to clean it up as he aggravated that last season which was why he looked awful during the regular season and didn’t go big minutes until the playoffs.

Their doctors/trainers have a plan that they will follow. I, for one, am fine trusting that plan. Although it does sound like there are some Armchair Doctors and Trainers on here that think they know better.

There’s no need for Midds to play big minutes in the regular season anyway. He showed that just last year when on one leg without full conditioning he was the Bucks best player against the Heat.
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Post#36 » by Mantis_toboggan » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:14 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:I think this one is a loss. First of a B2B so we may not play all out, Hawks coming off of two losses but still plenty talented enough. Also they were a bad matchup last year, though thankfully the Holidays are gone, they always played above their norms when playing against him.

I am a little perplexed though why we can’t play Middleton 15-20 mins when it’s a home B2B? Home B2Bs are pretty innocuous, no sleep deprivation of travel.

Khris is on a strict minutes limit. Even with limited minutes no way he goes B2B yet until he's back to normal and that will be awhile as they ramp him up.


I get that they want to be strict about it but to me I’m not sure it makes much logical sense. If they didn’t have a back to back they’d probably be practicing today, is a practice with the team much less strenuous than playing 15-20 mins in a game? If he can’t handle 16 mins or so in back to back days now I’d say there’s no way he can handle a back to back the rest of his career (or 40 minutes in playoff games).


It's just the nature of rehab and risk.

If I hurt myself at work and get put on desk duties for 12 weeks then light duties for another 12, people wouldn't be saying there is no chance I'd ever be able to do my job fully again.
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Post#37 » by Bucksmaniac » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:27 pm

Mantis_toboggan wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Khris is on a strict minutes limit. Even with limited minutes no way he goes B2B yet until he's back to normal and that will be awhile as they ramp him up.


I get that they want to be strict about it but to me I’m not sure it makes much logical sense. If they didn’t have a back to back they’d probably be practicing today, is a practice with the team much less strenuous than playing 15-20 mins in a game? If he can’t handle 16 mins or so in back to back days now I’d say there’s no way he can handle a back to back the rest of his career (or 40 minutes in playoff games).


It's just the nature of rehab and risk.

If I hurt myself at work and get put on desk duties for 12 weeks then light duties for another 12, people wouldn't be saying there is no chance I'd ever be able to do my job fully again.


It’s been like this for a year with Khris. He also said he was pain free during Training Camp. This is definitely a bit overprotective.
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Post#38 » by MVP2110 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:31 pm

Bucksmaniac wrote:
Mantis_toboggan wrote:
Bucksmaniac wrote:
I get that they want to be strict about it but to me I’m not sure it makes much logical sense. If they didn’t have a back to back they’d probably be practicing today, is a practice with the team much less strenuous than playing 15-20 mins in a game? If he can’t handle 16 mins or so in back to back days now I’d say there’s no way he can handle a back to back the rest of his career (or 40 minutes in playoff games).


It's just the nature of rehab and risk.

If I hurt myself at work and get put on desk duties for 12 weeks then light duties for another 12, people wouldn't be saying there is no chance I'd ever be able to do my job fully again.


It’s been like this for a year with Khris. He also said he was pain free during Training Camp. This is definitely a bit overprotective.


It seems like the 2nd game of the season is a perfectly fine time to be overprotective.
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Post#39 » by drew881 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:45 pm

How are we the only team in the league to only play 1 game when some have played 3 and 4?
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Post#40 » by Neuromancer56 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:47 pm

Giannis4Life34 wrote:Looking for Giannis to lead the charge tonight while Dame takes a step back. With Middleton out wouldn’t be surprised to see Giannis and Dame both with 30 points.
I hope Giannis lets the game come to him now. He doesn't have to force the issue anymore.

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