PG Orlando - Bucks Roll

HKPackFan · Post #21 » by **HKPackFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:49 am

I told you guys tonight would be fine.

I hope everyone is enjoying sunshine and rainbows for the next 24hrs.

MiltownMadness · Post #22 » by **MiltownMadness** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:50 am

Do people think Jimmy to Mil will end well for us? Seems beyond desperate. Think you're better off staying the course and hoping something better pops up when Giannis is 32 or something

randy84 · Post #23 » by **randy84** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:56 am

Great game but the key is to maintain consistency.

mediocrityrules · Post #24 » by **mediocrityrules** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:57 am

We came tonight with as much energy as that one guy that was screaming at every Bucks free throw attempt.

Perishable517 · Post #25 » by **Perishable517** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:05 am

Matches Malone wrote:

Read on Twitter

This is sorta crazy.

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Perishable517 · Post #26 » by **Perishable517** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:08 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Do people think Jimmy to Mil will end well for us? Seems beyond desperate. Think you're better off staying the course and hoping something better pops up when Giannis is 32 or something

And 1+

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tsamo · Post #27 » by **tsamo** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:11 am

Another stress free wire-to-wire victory against a quality opponent.
Now if only we could bring this kind of effort against middling or bad opponents...

Plossum · Post #28 » by **Plossum** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:19 am

Doc should keep bringing Midds off the bench imo. I dunno if my eyes deceive me but we seem to be a lot better with him at like 25mins off the bench running PG duties when Dame is off. Seems it’d be better for his ankle too.

Perishable517 · Post #29 » by **Perishable517** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:24 am

Plossum wrote:Doc should keep bringing Midds off the bench imo. I dunno if my eyes deceive me but we seem to be a lot better with him at like 25mins off the bench running PG duties when Dame is off. Seems it’d be better for his ankle too.

I agree, 100%. The connection between Dame and Giannis.

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RiotPunch · Post #30 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:53 am

Khris/Giannis chemistry on full display.

Trading Khris makes me uneasy. Would have to be purely motivated by medical concern going forward.

-Jragon- · Post #31 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:33 am

I like how not every score we make looks like a Superhero ball 1v1 play. We're moving the ball with a purpose and hitting a cutter with quick passes. Layups and dunks as a big chunk of your scoring through team ball is going to save a lot of health too and make the playoffs look smoother.

Looks like we finally learned that easy dunks play that I talked about in Nov... good think the Magic didn't enact the stop easy dunks play.

FrieAaron · Post #32 » by **FrieAaron** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:34 am

Feels like it's been forever since we've seen them really put games away early like this. Please do it again Friday - Toronto is abysmal on the road.

-Jragon- · Post #33 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:36 am

MiltownMadness wrote:Do people think Jimmy to Mil will end well for us? Seems beyond desperate. Think you're better off staying the course and hoping something better pops up when Giannis is 32 or something

Playoff Jimmy is a monster and very very good at basketball.. both sides of the ball ... that trade we're trying to do is a steal for us soooo yup you do it and the East will be scared out their mind.. it flips the division. I know we have some nastolgia KM die hards but he isn't Him like playoff Jimmy is

MiltownMadness · Post #34 » by **MiltownMadness** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:40 am

-Jragon- wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Do people think Jimmy to Mil will end well for us? Seems beyond desperate. Think you're better off staying the course and hoping something better pops up when Giannis is 32 or something

Playoff Jimmy is a monster and very very good at basketball.. both sides of the ball ... that trade we're trying to do is a steal for us soooo yup you do it and the East will be scared out their mind.. it flips the division. I know we have some nastolgia KM die hards but he isn't Him like playoff Jimmy is

But Jimmy is a decent amount older than Khris, doesn't want to play here, won't take a discount, and would likely only have him for half a season. In other words if we don't win the chip this year doing that trade, it's all over (we wouldn't win it all, imagine trading Khris chemistry for Butler/Dame/Giannis butting heads for important shots). Ik you still have a vendetta against Khris but I have a feeling patience with him will work out much better than the JButts concoction.

Not to mention we'd lose Bobby in this scenario without getting a defensive minded big back. Also probably give up the '31 1st in this scenario knowing Riley, in all honesty it's one of the most realistic nightmare trades I've seen.

MiltownMadness · Post #35 » by **MiltownMadness** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:46 am

We also have to understand that Khris just isn't valuable atm and you have to attach a lot to him to even get in the conversation for half a season of Jimmy. It's a last resort we don't need to do, Giannis will be around for a long time. This "obvious robbery" notion with Mil/Butler trade is a straight up lie, we are getting swindled if we wouldn't win a chip this very year after the most drastic of mid-season adjustments.

Post #36 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:34 am

RiotPunch wrote:Khris/Giannis chemistry on full display.

Trading Khris makes me uneasy. Would have to be purely motivated by medical concern going forward.

That's the only real justification for moving Khris. If you could guarantee that he'd be healthy for the playoffs and be able play 35 mpg, no way you move him. His chemistry with Giannis is unmatched and he's a guy I trust to take big shots.

But we should be cautious about Butler's health, too. He's missed plenty of games in his own right, including the playoffs entirely last season.

-Jragon- · Post #37 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:41 am

Being able to get to the line, get defensive stops and hustle plays at the end of playoff games wins playoff games and serieses... KM can't start OR close even regular season games for us right now so I don't even know what we're comparing between those 2. The defensive/hustle plays we needed to get big wins at the end of playoff games was Jrue... Jimmy has that kind of toughness ...

Jimmy is a gym rat...
KM is already scheduling his end of July cleanup surgeries next summer... I'd trust JB to be ready for the playoffs this year... GA missed the whole playoffs last year, but I trust him to be ready this year, too.

-Jragon- · Post #38 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:16 am

MiltownMadness wrote:
-Jragon- wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:Do people think Jimmy to Mil will end well for us? Seems beyond desperate. Think you're better off staying the course and hoping something better pops up when Giannis is 32 or something

Playoff Jimmy is a monster and very very good at basketball.. both sides of the ball ... that trade we're trying to do is a steal for us soooo yup you do it and the East will be scared out their mind.. it flips the division. I know we have some nastolgia KM die hards but he isn't Him like playoff Jimmy is

But Jimmy is a decent amount older than Khris, doesn't want to play here, won't take a discount, and would likely only have him for half a season. In other words if we don't win the chip this year doing that trade, it's all over (we wouldn't win it all, imagine trading Khris chemistry for Butler/Dame/Giannis butting heads for important shots). Ik you still have a vendetta against Khris but I have a feeling patience with him will work out much better than the JButts concoction.

Not to mention we'd lose Bobby in this scenario without getting a defensive minded big back. Also probably give up the '31 1st in this scenario knowing Riley, in all honesty it's one of the most realistic nightmare trades I've seen.

In reverse:
*Bobby can't close games as a small ball 5 because he's non-existent like a fire hydrant on D. We're getting back a 2 way monster player for two 1 way players that can get hustled off the floor at any moment.
* Yeah, I agree that if Dame and Giannis cant convince him to come get a ring with us and take the best extension we can offer then maybe we let this go... but guys get on the phone because the East would be F'd
* So you really acting like 33y/o KM is far younger than 35 y/o Butler. First of all KM moves like he's 50 and has had far more surgeries and more serious ones than Jimmy. Again, Jimmy being a gym rat that spends his summers doing monster workouts instead of recovering with video games from cleanup surgeries every year ...
that pays dividends and the gap between their ages is likely reversed. Jimmy would wipe the floor with KM on ANY physical match up ... basketball or otherwise despite this huge 2 year gap you thought wise to being up. I bet KM still didn't even do them sprints that Doc needed for his camp physical.

Why are we talking about this in the PG... I'll respond in the transactions thread if anyone wants to.

MiltownMadness · Post #39 » by **MiltownMadness** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:20 am

I agree it belongs in T&T thread but we won by 100 against an injured team and Butts was brought up in the thread, so I thought why not start discussion. You wanted to discuss it as well.

Jimmy would be a half season rental, would need to build chemistry, and would likely be disgruntled being the 3rd option. It's a gross recipe for disaster. Not to mention once again we likely lose Bobby and '31 1st, which you can't just throw away as nothing as far assets go. Bucks are limited on assets.

aboveAverage · Post #40 » by **aboveAverage** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:57 am

Great win, Dame and Giannis were fantastic. Khris with a great performance moonlighting as a PG.

It still pains me that in all of these years of superstar Giannis, we’ve never had a true point guard. Seeing glimpses of how Khris can find him in the two man game makes me confident that we’d have an unstoppable offense with a better passer at PG. Dame is the best we’ve had in that respect in a long time, but he and Giannis don’t have the chemistry figured out yet.