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Post#21 » by Bernman » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:44 am

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Prez wrote:22-9 since the awful start to the year, 8th in net rating and 5th on defense.

If we can flip Bobby for an athletic, rim running defensive big off the bench it'd be a game changer. If it's a younger dude who could eventually take over for Brook as the starter I'd even be willing to part with the '31 1st.

Would yall part with the 31 1st for Duren? I probably would as we still have first round picks just not tradable. Pretty confident Duren could take over as our rim protector and would be the best screen setter on the team instantly


"Jalen Duren must improve as a defender".
"Jalen Duren's defense is bad. I think everyone knows it at this point. Beyond blocking shots, which he does at a mediocre rate, his presence is barely a deterrent"

https://www.reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/1cnf7c4/jalen_duren_must_improve_as_a_defender/

This season his d-rating is one of the worst on the team, & sub-par overall. Hard to do on that squad. His d-rating is 115.4. Stewart's is 109.5. And he can shoot some, unlike Duren. Stewart's who we'd go for, & could maybe get. He's older. Why do young teams want to give up young players they feature.

Think lower, & someone actually real, + gettable, like Nance. We could even keep our pick, or use it for an actual borderline core big 3&d wing, which we also could use.
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Post#22 » by ReddoverKobe » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:45 am

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Prez wrote:22-9 since the awful start to the year, 8th in net rating and 5th on defense.

If we can flip Bobby for an athletic, rim running defensive big off the bench it'd be a game changer. If it's a younger dude who could eventually take over for Brook as the starter I'd even be willing to part with the '31 1st.


Wonder what the Spurs want for Wemby. The '31 first and Pat, maybe?


Can you imagine Wemby and Giannis on the same team
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Post#23 » by MiltownMadness » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:47 am

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Prez wrote:22-9 since the awful start to the year, 8th in net rating and 5th on defense.

If we can flip Bobby for an athletic, rim running defensive big off the bench it'd be a game changer. If it's a younger dude who could eventually take over for Brook as the starter I'd even be willing to part with the '31 1st.

Would yall part with the 31 1st for Duren? I probably would as we still have first round picks just not tradable. Pretty confident Duren could take over as our rim protector and would be the best screen setter on the team instantly


"Jalen Duren must improve as a defender".
"Jalen Duren's defense is bad. I think everyone knows it at this point. Beyond blocking shots, which he does at a mediocre rate, his presence is barely a deterrent"

https://www.reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/1cnf7c4/jalen_duren_must_improve_as_a_defender/

This season his d-rating is one of the worst on the team, & sub-par overall. Hard to do on that squad.

I think there's a lot of mythology about him in general. And he can't shoot. Plus they wouldn't give him up. Don't know why we're pining for young players on young teams.

Think lower, & someone actually real, + gettable, like Nance. We could even keep our pick, or use it for an actual borderline core big 3&d wing, which we also could use.

Duren is 21, still a project. I think needing a shooter next to Giannis is a total fallacy, my next target for life post-Brook can totally be a non-shooter if he can play defensively. I have a feeling Duren would magically improve as a defender playing next to Giannis. Also this is more about moving Bobby and having a guy waiting in the wings for the day Brook retires, while also addition by subtraction with moving Bobby for a defensive big. He is 21 and played in the worst situation possible the last 2 years so I will ignore that stuff for the obvious ability I have seen from him that just needs to be molded, his defensive rebound ability alone over Bobby is prob worth 1-2 wins

That squad isn't bad by the way, they are .500, not some bottom feeder. Your best point is that he probably isn't gettable because he is more of a cornerstone for a young team, but if the difference is 31 1st then go for it imo
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Post#24 » by Bernman » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:53 am

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MiltownMadness wrote:Would yall part with the 31 1st for Duren? I probably would as we still have first round picks just not tradable. Pretty confident Duren could take over as our rim protector and would be the best screen setter on the team instantly


"Jalen Duren must improve as a defender".
"Jalen Duren's defense is bad. I think everyone knows it at this point. Beyond blocking shots, which he does at a mediocre rate, his presence is barely a deterrent"

https://www.reddit.com/r/DetroitPistons/comments/1cnf7c4/jalen_duren_must_improve_as_a_defender/

This season his d-rating is one of the worst on the team, & sub-par overall. Hard to do on that squad.

I think there's a lot of mythology about him in general. And he can't shoot. Plus they wouldn't give him up. Don't know why we're pining for young players on young teams.

Think lower, & someone actually real, + gettable, like Nance. We could even keep our pick, or use it for an actual borderline core big 3&d wing, which we also could use.

Duren is 21, still a project. I think needing a shooter next to Giannis is a total fallacy, my next target for life post-Brook can totally be a non-shooter if he can play defensively. I have a feeling Duren would magically improve as a defender playing next to Giannis. Also this is more about moving Bobby and having a guy waiting in the wings for the day Brook retires, while also addition by subtraction with moving Bobby for a defensive big. He is 21 and played in the worst situation possible the last 2 years so I will ignore that stuff for the obvious ability I have seen from him that just needs to be molded

That squad isn't bad by the way, they are .500, not some bottom feeder.


Why do we want a project vs. them? We're contenders. They're not. We annihilated them at their place when it counted most.

Speaking of Bobby, if he sucks defensively next to Giannis, why would Duren be different? Giannis is not some magic elixir. Duren's not even a shooter, who Giannis has actually proven to make better.

Speaking of that, I don't get why that'd be a preference that the next pairing with Giannis can't shoot, so he'd make Giannis' life tougher on the drive. We've seen the o/net ratings w/ Ajax in the starting 5. If they're great otherwise, we can maybe live w/ it. But Ajax & even Duren, aren't. So I don't know why we wouldn't look almost anywhere else 1st. You're fixated cuz you like the idea of him, but that leads to bad moves.
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Post#25 » by MiltownMadness » Mon Jan 20, 2025 2:55 am

I'm not fixated, just not seeing many avenues. WCJ would be ideal but can't trade for him. Nance won't play in the playoffs sorry to say. I just want to hear other options and I'm super down to change my mind, but priority #1 needs to be getting Bobby off the team. If that take the 31 1st then so be it
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Post#26 » by Bernman » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:00 am

MiltownMadness wrote:I'm not fixated, just not seeing many avenues. WCJ would be ideal but can't trade for him. Nance won't play in the playoffs sorry to say. I just want to hear other options and I'm super down to change my mind, but priority #1 needs to be getting Bobby off the team. If that take the 31 1st then so be it, we can win this year the league is looking more open every week to me


What do you mean Nance won't play in the playoffs? He already has & was a big positive x-factor. You mean he won't be back by then? He's expected to return after the all-star break. So either way, that's seemingly not true.

There are a lot of avenues to upgrade from Bobby & just contain Towns & co. w/ an athlete as a switch-up from Brook. And they cost a lot less. Then we can get something else we need, w/ more potential to boot.
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Post#27 » by MiltownMadness » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:03 am

Bernman wrote:
MiltownMadness wrote:I'm not fixated, just not seeing many avenues. WCJ would be ideal but can't trade for him. Nance won't play in the playoffs sorry to say. I just want to hear other options and I'm super down to change my mind, but priority #1 needs to be getting Bobby off the team. If that take the 31 1st then so be it, we can win this year the league is looking more open every week to me


What do you mean Nance won't play in the playoffs? He already has & was a big positive x-factor. You mean he won't be back by then? He's expected to return after the all-star break. So either way, that's seemingly not true.

He's a 6-8 athlete who is 32, was struggling to be an everyday player for the Hawks before the injury, then we'd have 1/3rd the season to get him acclimated if he can even stay healthy (worth noting he has had an extensive injury history). Nance is a hail mary at best to me. Would prefer an actual bonafide rotation guy
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Post#28 » by HKPackFan » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:14 am

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Post#29 » by Perishable517 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:18 am

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Absolutely! I also like him as a player, a lot.

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Post#31 » by chonestown » Mon Jan 20, 2025 3:45 am

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Post#32 » by blazza18 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 5:13 am

I still don't think the fan duel broadcast showed a replay of this during the game :confused:

One of the best finishes Giannis has ever had imo -

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Post#33 » by AussieBuck » Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:52 am

Let's get that Bona dude.
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Post#34 » by HKPackFan » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:06 am

AussieBuck wrote:Let's get that Bona dude.



You got a bona for the bona.
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Post#35 » by AussieBuck » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:09 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Let's get that Bona dude.



You got a bona for the bona.

Never heard of him before today, but he was going at Giannis even after getting **** up a few times and still thought he might get the better of it. Like an anti-Ayton. Sign me up.
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Post#36 » by HKPackFan » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:28 am

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AussieBuck wrote:Let's get that Bona dude.



You got a bona for the bona.

Never heard of him before today, but he was going at Giannis even after getting **** up a few times and still thought he might get the better of it. Like an anti-Ayton. Sign me up.


Actually i did notice, i was like... Who is this guy??
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Post#37 » by midranger » Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:59 am

There were a few of us talking about Bona before the draft.

I don’t think he’s going to be great or anything, but could be a suitable backup big with an NBA ready frame. Which we could use right now.
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Post#38 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jan 20, 2025 12:19 pm

I think Ajax showed progress offensively again.
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Post#39 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:00 pm

Gotta stay consistent at beating the schlub teams, at least. Though it would be nice to start getting some nice wins against higher seeded clubs. Though we've crept up into the 4th seed as Orlando's reeling a bit. Didn't even realize Indiana's also been creeping up.
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Post#40 » by CharityStripe34 » Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:01 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:I think Ajax showed progress offensively again.


He's a good and willing passer, I just hope he can progress to being a solid finisher in the dunker area as that's sort of his calling.
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