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Post#21 » by yb90 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:19 am

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yb90 wrote:The Bucks have to get better cutting when Giannis gets double and zoned off when he has the ball on the wing.


This was one of the really frustrating things to watch tonight. Giannis had 2-3 guys on him all night. There's always an open man and we struggled to find that open man time and again (and in the first half when we did we'd miss the open bunny).

We shouldn't have to struggle so much to get guys easy shots in that situation.

Too many times players cut into the same area. Other times players took too long to recognize when to cut.

Another thing that needs to be done is running Giannis off screens and not just post up. That's on Giannis and Doc to create plays like that.
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Post#22 » by old skool » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:35 am

KPJ got most of the minutes at PG tonight, inspite of Rollins starting. I think his offense benefits from being on the court while Giannis sits, as he tends to defer to Giannis. Coming off the bench but closing games seems to be working well.

I look forward to seeing how Portis fits into this.

I wonder if other teams are noticing that Giannis has been dominating 3rd quarters frequently of late. Almost looks like a game plan.
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Post#23 » by Plossum » Sun Mar 23, 2025 6:38 am

Last 4 mins of this game was gross from both teams but a win is a win.
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Post#24 » by Dick Tate » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:04 am

Trent came alive at the right time.
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Post#25 » by tedbrogen » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:12 am

It’s pretty amazing when Giannis decides they are winning and single-handedly obliterates an NBA team that is actively doubling and tripling him on every play. That third quarter from him was unreal.

For as good as Rollins looked on D against the Lakers, he was completely lost tonight. Add in that his shoulder injury is clearly affecting his shooting and I don’t know why he saw the floor after the first quarter.

It’s pretty evident that KPJ and Trent should both start and Prince and Kuz should come off the bench. Kuz would replace KPJ’s off the bench energy.

And it’s funny the Kings are finding out that if Derozan and Lavine are your best players, you’re not good. They turned Hali and Fox into being the Bulls with a slightly better Vuc. Kangs gonna Kangs.
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Post#26 » by fan230 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:12 am

Kpj has high upside. I think he will become very good. Actually it would be good if he takes some more of Dame’s minutes; our defense will be less porous. And kpj is faster and can score in a variety of ways. I became a fan of his after I saw him playing for the first time for the Bucks.
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Post#27 » by tedbrogen » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:16 am

Also Bucks are first in Drtg in clutch time. They can get stops. They are 29th in Ortg. With Giannis and Dame’s gravity, that’s inexcusable. Just run that high double horn screen for Dame late in games, automatic open look for someone.
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Post#28 » by Dick Tate » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:17 am

When Lavine got a split lip, it felt like he was still a Bull.
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Post#29 » by fan230 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 7:21 am

Green is not a natural defender. He has been trying very hard on defense. I think since he started doing that, his offensive rhythm has completely disappeared.

Kuz from the bench would be helpful for the team.
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Post#30 » by humanrefutation » Sun Mar 23, 2025 9:08 am

Not much to add about this one, other than to say that every time I saw Jae Crowder, I thought about how he cost us five second round picks and a contract extension only to play like absolute ass.
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Post#31 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:11 am

tedbrogen wrote:And it’s funny the Kings are finding out that if Derozan and Lavine are your best players, you’re not good. They turned Hali and Fox into being the Bulls with a slightly better Vuc. Kangs gonna Kangs.

Not saying I like what they did, but I think that is a mischaracterization of their moves. I dont think they intentionally put together poor man's Bulls team but rather that is how it worked out getting them 3 firsts. They basically got Derozan for Barnes and cap space and Lavine was more of a negative throw in. And it's not like Sabonis doesnt have really good value. He's been a top 15 player the past 2 years and still in his prime, so I don't think the Hali trade was bad or anything to do with Lavine/Derozan.
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Post#32 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 23, 2025 12:45 pm

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tedbrogen wrote:And it’s funny the Kings are finding out that if Derozan and Lavine are your best players, you’re not good. They turned Hali and Fox into being the Bulls with a slightly better Vuc. Kangs gonna Kangs.

Not saying I like what they did, but I think that is a mischaracterization of their moves. I dont think they intentionally put together poor man's Bulls team but rather that is how it worked out getting them 3 firsts. They basically got Derozan for Barnes and cap space and Lavine was more of a negative throw in. And it's not like Sabonis doesnt have really good value. He's been a top 15 player the past 2 years and still in his prime, so I don't think the Hali trade was bad or anything to do with Lavine/Derozan.


Kings only getting 2- 1sts in the deal, but 5- 2nds, because this years Charlotte pick won't convey and becomes 2-2nds.
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Post#33 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:17 pm

soxperry wrote:I feel like the main podcasters haven't really mentioned KPJ's impact but at some point its unavoidable


Yeah, we've been great with him defensively, and now the offense is coming around as he finds his spots too. We're pretty awesome with him at PG, despite him playing in some funky lineups.
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Post#34 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:26 pm

I'd still love Keon Ellis for our team.
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Post#35 » by skbucks1985 » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:54 pm

soxperry wrote:I feel like the main podcasters haven't really mentioned KPJ's impact but at some point its unavoidable


Its one of those things that's really obvious if you watch the games but often doesn't show up in the numbers. Last night is maybe not the best example of this because the Bucks were +7 in the 4th qtr minutes without Giannis. But Doc has made the decision to let Giannis and Dame sit at the start of the 4th qtr and try to keep them on the bench as long as possible and KPJ is the one that the offense runs through when they're on the bench.
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Post#36 » by Bernman » Sun Mar 23, 2025 4:57 pm

I didn't see this game, or the 1 against the Lakers that featured Doncic & Reaves. How was Green's defense in these? In the others of the last 5 I'd say 2 good, 1 decent. I'm trying to gauge if he's coming back around in the department. Then if the offensive confidence comes back, we may have a starting candidate again. That's an x-factor. In this shooting form he's not.

All our starting 2 options are quite flawed (thanks Horst). Rollins was the other in theory who fit cuz of his d and decent outside shooting. But I was worried about the shoulder still bothering him. Sounds like it still is.

I don't know if I want to fall back on the pure offensive play of Gary, or talent play of KPJ, but ultimately we may have to.
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Post#37 » by chonestown » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:11 pm

fan230 wrote:Green is not a natural defender. He has been trying very hard on defense. I think since he started doing that, his offensive rhythm has completely disappeared.


His offensive slide coincided with his quad injury.
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Post#38 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:18 pm

chonestown wrote:
fan230 wrote:Green is not a natural defender. He has been trying very hard on defense. I think since he started doing that, his offensive rhythm has completely disappeared.


His offensive slide coincided with his quad injury.


This. He couldn't do his usual shooting drills, and its effected his shooting. He's healthy now. He'll go on a heater any day now.
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Post#39 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:21 pm

It's been 7 weeks since he returned from the quad injury.
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Post#40 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Mar 23, 2025 5:23 pm

The Giannis pass from the ground to Trent in the corner after getting blocked was an all time Giannis highlight. It simply punctuates his relentlessness.

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