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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#21 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:54 am

I hate that the team has killed my interest to the point where I never even thought of switching over to watch.
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#22 » by Bernman » Fri Apr 4, 2025 1:58 am

mediocrityrules wrote:Again our rebounding is a real weakness. Even in the last two wins we've been outrebounded and can't stop the other team getting offensive boards and 2nd chance points. I thought we'd at least stem the problem tonight against a massively undermanned team, but no, we still keep making the same mistakes. Not even a ham substitution for Doc made a difference.


We're undermanned in the frontcourt ourselves. They actually had more true bigs they deemed usable than us - 3 to 2. We normally have 4. So that problem will partially resolve when Bobby &/or Sims return. Then we'll see how much it's still an issue.

Doc and his underling didn't deem Nance usable. I'm not a fan, but at least he's a big. I suspect this is a mistake.
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Post#23 » by fan230 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:15 am

I too had been wondering why they don’t try Nance
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Post#24 » by KidA24 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:15 am

Bernman wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:Again our rebounding is a real weakness. Even in the last two wins we've been outrebounded and can't stop the other team getting offensive boards and 2nd chance points. I thought we'd at least stem the problem tonight against a massively undermanned team, but no, we still keep making the same mistakes. Not even a ham substitution for Doc made a difference.


We're undermanned in the frontcourt ourselves. They actually had more true bigs they deemed usable than us - 3 to 2. We normally have 4. So that problem will partially resolve when Bobby &/or Sims return. Then we'll see how much it's still an issue.

Doc and his underling didn't deem Nance usable. I'm not a fan, but at least he's a big. I suspect this is a mistake.


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Post#25 » by Perishable517 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:35 am

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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#26 » by German Athens » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:37 am

For those who think Giannis is in decline - he isn’t.
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Post#27 » by chonestown » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:49 am

I like watching the Bucks win and I like watching Giannis. It's a privilege. I get that there's plenty to complain about, but the Bucks man. That's my team.
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Post#28 » by Bernman » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:54 am

German Athens wrote:For those who think Giannis is in decline - he isn’t.


He's the best he's ever been, when he cares. The mid-range and passing has made him more unstoppable than ever on o. On D & the boards, it's just variable to how much he wants to exert energy and risk injury. That area's been inconsistent.

But the NBA Cup run is playoff Giannis. Just hope he's healthy this time. Then the Bucks should play Giannis in the high post w/ 4 out orbiting him, sometimes 1 in the dunker.
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Post#29 » by old skool » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:54 am

Bernman wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:Again our rebounding is a real weakness. Even in the last two wins we've been outrebounded and can't stop the other team getting offensive boards and 2nd chance points. I thought we'd at least stem the problem tonight against a massively undermanned team, but no, we still keep making the same mistakes. Not even a ham substitution for Doc made a difference.


We're undermanned in the frontcourt ourselves. They actually had more true bigs they deemed usable than us - 3 to 2. We normally have 4. So that problem will partially resolve when Bobby &/or Sims return. Then we'll see how much it's still an issue.

Doc and his underling didn't deem Nance usable. I'm not a fan, but at least he's a big. I suspect this is a mistake.
Nance is a 6'10" small forward perimeter player whose notable skill is 3-point shooting and who will play zero game-on-the-line playoff minutes.

The Bucks' roster has been fragmented by injuries and a disruptive (in a good way) trade deadline. Every game is a precious opportunity to build chemistry and cohesion. Devoting minutes to Nance, based on his career to date, would be a trivialous waste.
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Post#30 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:02 am

Gotta appreciate these kind of Giannis games when he’s still in his prime. We’ve also shot like, 55% on 3’s the past two games and barely beat two G-league squads lol. I don’t even know who’s more mentally checked out at this point. The players, or Doc.
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#31 » by Jez2983 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:04 am

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German Athens wrote:For those who think Giannis is in decline - he isn’t.


He's the best he's ever been, when he cares. The mid-range and passing has made him more unstoppable than ever on o. On D & the boards, it's just variable to how much he wants to exert energy and risk energy. That area's been inconsistent.

But the NBA Cup run is playoff Giannis. Just hope he's healthy this time. Then the Bucks should play Giannis in the high post w/ 4 out orbiting him, sometimes 1 in the dunker.


Yep, dialed in 2025 Giannis is the best Giannis. It's actually pretty cool now that he can coast to like a 30/12/5 game. The only thing he's done better historically is his FTs, and as you say consistent defensive effort.

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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#32 » by Bernman » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:05 am

old skool wrote:Nance is a 6'10" small forward perimeter player whose notable skill is 3-point shooting and who will play zero game-on-the-line playoff minutes.

The Bucks' roster has been fragmented by injuries and a disruptive (in a good way) trade deadline. Every game is a precious opportunity to build chemistry and cohesion. Devoting minutes to Nance, based on his career to date, would be a trivialous waste.


Nance measured taller than both Sims & Portis at the combine. That's 2 of our 3 centers. He's an inch taller than Kuz. That's who we're playing as our 3rd big. When we didn't have a 3rd big earlier this season we cratered too.

The burden of proof's on the coach is to try a guy to see if he helps us. He was wrong about Sims too. Didn't play him initially, and we heard the excuses. Sims isn't good, but just offered something we need. If Nance doesn't, that's on Horst. But until then it's on Doc.

In the playoffs Sims and Bobby will be back, and playing those minutes. So we're not building chemistry in the interim. All Nance would be replacing until they return is space. We got a need, a need for seed.
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Post#33 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:25 am

I had the displeasure of watching the Herd last week. Nance would do nothing for our weakness on the glass. He's really narrow, another guy that can't box out. He can shoot 3s and dunk lobs, but the offense isn't the need right now.
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#34 » by Prez » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:26 am

Dude is just absurd and continues to show he has that BITW level in him. On a Warriors, Celtics, Spurs, Heat type org the guy should end his career like a 3-5x champ with an extra MVP or two and being widely recognized as a top 10 guy all time, and it pains me to no end we can’t give him that.
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#35 » by paulpressey25 » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:26 am

We don’t give Giannis enough love. Think about how many other NBA superstars would have started to check out in this mess and not give a crap. This guy just plays harder.
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#36 » by CJTURT » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:58 am

Ham said go get ‘em point forward. Play ball. Doc is dust in the wind!!
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Post#37 » by CJTURT » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:59 am

This team has always and will forever run through Giannis. Not through lame lilliard. Giannis just needs good pieces around him that wanna fit in And benefit from his greatness
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Re: PG Sixers: Bucks Roll (Eventually) 

Post#38 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:07 am

I realize individual +- are not in full context but sometimes they stick out. Rollins -16 in 29 minutes. KPJ +31 in 17 minutes.
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Post#39 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:09 am

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Post#40 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:13 am

Anyways, watching Giannis dominate is always fun, no matter who it's against. Dude is indeed a freak.
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