The Brandon Jennings Conundrum (Day 30)

[Nebula1]

I'd go something like 4/32 and think he's probably in that 7-10M per range.

You seriously think Jennings is worth upwards of $10 mil?

Nebula is just overreaching with his undying, inexplicable love for BJ. Maybe he's watching different games than the rest of us because in the ones I watch, BJ hurts the team and doesn't make anyone better. And he's been in the league 4 full-seasons not showing any growth whatsoever as a player. Just speechless.

One man's love is another's hate, I guess. Jennings is a volatile asset and I'm comfortable with him as a long-term project. He was drafted as a project and has poven to be so. However, he HAS improved and most around here are just remembering how the season finished with him checking out 2 months early.

I like Jennings as a continued project and think he's as good as his teammates. The major problem with Jennings on the Bucks is we haven't had a big alpha dog he submits to and has been that little barking dog. Yet he gravitates to guys like Stephen Jackson and Monta Ellis for a reason.

I maintain it's a matter of maturity with Jennings and if you placed him on a good team with big names, you'd see him fall in line. I hope Sanders becomes the alpha this team needs.

[LedZepp007]

my max is jennings 4/26.... slightly better than mle money.

if he says no tell him to stick it. let him sign the QO.

then go get mo williams to play the 3 gaurd rotation with mayo and ridnour. offer big money on a 1 year deal.... let jennings rot behind them until he can work out a deal elsewhere.

this shouldnt be this hard.

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[Nebula1]

Sign him to the QO.

At that price, he should be tradeable, even if you have to wait to nearer the dealine, when injuries could make him a more desirable choice for a contender. I realize he can veto a trade, but right now, it may be sinking in that he's not in real demand. He needs to go somewhere else to get his career back on track.

I don't have a desire to trade him. He can get his career on track in Milwaukee just as could anywhere and it's on the organization to continue to fill out the roster with young talent.

my max is jennings 4/26.... slightly better than mle money.

if he says no tell him to stick it. let him sign the QO.

then go get mo williams to play the 3 gaurd rotation with mayo and ridnour. offer big money on a 1 year deal.... let jennings rot behind them until he can work out a deal elsewhere.

this shouldnt be this hard.

F no to Mo Williams. He's a backup in the NBA.

[WEFFPIM]

Oh man...bringing back Mo Williams would be one hairy cherry on top of this offseason sundae.

[Ron Swanson]

Anybody who would want him back long-term, after watching him the past 4 seasons, has to have some sort of mental issues. That, or they have very low standards.

I don't think that's accurate. He's an asset of the bucks and Brandon can likely be re-signed at fair market value. There's also a good chance he now sees what he has to do with his career in order to get the money he wants.

Sign Jennings and be done with the offseason.Tank.

I don't get this type of rationale. I've been hearing all offseason from this board that we couldn't tank if we still have Ersan and Larry as our frontcourt. Do you think the Bucks would then pursue trade options with Ers to get a starting wing/SF? If so, that balances out the roster much better and allows Henson to start, but unless Brandon pouts and pulls a Titus Young, I don't see how that makes us a worse basketball team. For all the (rightfully deserved) flak that BJ gets, he will still give us those 10-12 or so odd games where he lights it up from the field and will win us some games that we had no business winning.

We can salvage a tank scenario if and only if we trade both Ersan and BJ on the QO in my opinion. Luke, Mayo, Delfino, Henson, and Larry is a bottom 5 roster in the East.

[Nebula1]

Yes I trade Ersan and while Brandon does get hot and maybe gets a couple Ws, that's fine since he's part of my long-term plan with the team.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

F no to Mo Williams. He's a backup in the NBA.

exactly. hes my combo gaurd backup to ridnour and mayo. play delfino there some if his size is an issue with certain matchups.

id take devin too for that matter. i dont have a preference...... maybe devin if i knew he was 100% healthy but that shiz with dallas kinda scares me off.

[Nebula1]

F no to Mo Williams. He's a backup in the NBA.

exactly. hes my combo gaurd backup to ridnour and mayo. play delfino there some if his size is an issue with certain matchups.

id take devin too for that matter. i dont have a preference...... maybe devin if i knew he was 100% healthy but that shiz with dallas kinda scares me off.

Well Brandon still has starter potential despite all the hate he receives here. I'm not letting go of an asset like that out of frustration and certainly not for a re-tread like Mo Williams. I see no reason to add him when Ridnour is already on the roster.

I'd rather trade Ish Smith + 2nd for Will Barton to play behind Mayo and Delfino.

Jennings/Ridnour/Wolters
Mayo/Barton
Green/Delfino/Giannis
Henson/Udoh
Sanders/Zaza/Ayon


There's my 13/14 squad with the mandate of getting the young guys time.

[HELPLESS]

We don't need to sign Mo or Devin. Go with Dominque Jones as that backup.

Ridnour, Wolters, Ish at PG.
Mayo, Jones at SG
Delfino, Giannis at SF

Perfect tank team and you let some younger guys like Wolters, Jones, and Giannis get some minutes.

[Thunder Muscle]

I'm fine with offering Jennings a 3/15M deal with a 4th year 10M team option, he can take or leave it. Its a reasonable deal for the team, reasonable if needed to trade, if he plays well he'll probably guarantee himself 25M. He might be inclined to take it b/c he isn't getting anything right now and another poor season there is no way he's going to command any noteworthy contract.

[Thunder Muscle]

We don't need to sign Mo or Devin. Go with Dominque Jones as that backup.

Ridnour, Wolters, Ish at PG.
Mayo, Jones at SG
Delfino, Giannis at SF

Perfect tank team and you let some younger guys like Wolters, Jones, and Giannis get some minutes.

I don't think we have a tank team. On paper it looks like it, but I think as it stands we're more balanced than last year, going to have smarter players, and if someone like Henson emerges we're easily in the mid-30 win range.

[Godgers]

I am loving everything this off season with Brandon Jennings. It has been a long time coming and well deserved.

[VooDoo7]

F no to Mo Williams. He's a backup in the NBA.

So is Brandon.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

you know what.... we could sign jennings to a deal like ak47 did with the wolves last year only make year 2 a team option. pay brandon a ton for one year, protect our control over him at the market value he believes he is with an option year.... and see if drew somehow gets more out of him. and that option year would help with his trade value too.

theres no alternative player left that makes me want to cast him aside IF his attitude gets right. i dont hate him hate him.... and theres really nothing to lose considering we have ridnour for next year. maybe only thing we lose is if he goes somewhere else with a different system and actually plays better.

that said... if he acts the dick thru the rest of this process then put a 1 year deal on the table for williams and harris and then just go sign whichever one accepts it first. offer em like 1/6 or whatever to put the heat on a decision.

[HELPLESS]

We don't need to sign Mo or Devin. Go with Dominque Jones as that backup.

Ridnour, Wolters, Ish at PG.
Mayo, Jones at SG
Delfino, Giannis at SF

Perfect tank team and you let some younger guys like Wolters, Jones, and Giannis get some minutes.

I don't think we have a tank team. On paper it looks like it, but I think as it stands we're more balanced than last year, going to have smarter players, and if someone like Henson emerges we're easily in the mid-30 win range.

You think the team I listed isn't a tank team?

If the Bucks give Wolters and Giannis 20 minutes per game, this team would go nowhere. I just don't see a rotation of Ridnour, Wolters, and Mayo really doing much of anything. That's a poor team. Not a bottom 3 poor team but something like 6-10.

Unless Sanders becomes Ben Wallace circa 2002 and Henson plays real NBA games like Summer League games; that team doesn't win 30 games.

[InsideOut]

This is a no win for the Bucks. If they give him the QO and he blows up he will leave Milwaukee (I'm sure he hates us now) and we'll get nothing for him. If he continues to be a player no team wants we'll let him walk for nothing. Makes me wonder why not just move on now?

[msiris]

This is a no win for the Bucks. If they give him the QO and he blows up he will leave Milwaukee (I'm sure he hates us now) and we'll get nothing for him. If he continues to be a player no team wants we'll let him walk for nothing. Makes me wonder why not just move on now?

If he blows up just trade him at the deadline no matter what.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

This is a no win for the Bucks. If they give him the QO and he blows up he will leave Milwaukee (I'm sure he hates us now) and we'll get nothing for him. If he continues to be a player no team wants we'll let him walk for nothing. Makes me wonder why not just move on now?

If he blows up just trade him at the deadline no matter what.

thats why if we are still negotiaiting with him for more than the qo.....we need to be putting some team options in there where we can continue to control his rights(or the team we trade him to still has that ability)

he will have virtually no trade value on the qo.

[engelmartin]

Have negotiations resumed? We really could use an update on the B Jennings situation. Give Baron Davis a chance at his comeback here!

[VooDoo7]

This is a no win for the Bucks. If they give him the QO and he blows up he will leave Milwaukee (I'm sure he hates us now) and we'll get nothing for him. If he continues to be a player no team wants we'll let him walk for nothing. Makes me wonder why not just move on now?

If he blows up just trade him at the deadline no matter what.

If he blows up, and we're in the playoff hunt, do you really think our idiot GM/owner would get behind that?

See; this last year.