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Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade?

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What position is needed for the 3rd star?

PG
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55%
SG
19
19%
C
25
26%
 
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Re: Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade? 

Post#201 » by tski1972 » Tue Dec 9, 2014 6:37 pm

go big or go home.....

Bucks and Kings

Mayo/Henson/top 10 protected 2015 1st
for
Stauskas/Landry/lotto protected 2017 first

Ersan to Houston for trade exception

Knight to Lakers for future 1st

2016 2nd to Atlanta for Muscala

Marshall/Wolters/Bayless
Stauskas/Middleton/Bayless
Giannis/Middleton/Dudley/Inglis
Parker/Landry/JOB
Sanders/Zaza/Muscala

Stauskas more or less is our 2015 draft pick, and pick up two future 1sts
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Re: Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade? 

Post#202 » by M-C-G » Tue Dec 9, 2014 7:13 pm

tski1972 wrote:go big or go home.....

Bucks and Kings

Mayo/Henson/top 10 protected 2015 1st
for
Stauskas/Landry/lotto protected 2017 first

Ersan to Houston for trade exception

Knight to Lakers for future 1st

2016 2nd to Atlanta for Muscala

Marshall/Wolters/Bayless
Stauskas/Middleton/Bayless
Giannis/Middleton/Dudley/Inglis
Parker/Landry/JOB
Sanders/Zaza/Muscala

Stauskas more or less is our 2015 draft pick, and pick up two future 1sts


Stauskas is not going big or going home, and certainly not worth giving up that draft pick. I'd definitely like to acquire him in some sort of Henson+ package, but that is way too much.

I'm pretty indifferent with the other deals outlined.
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Post#203 » by tski1972 » Tue Dec 9, 2014 7:18 pm

M-C-G wrote:
tski1972 wrote:go big or go home.....

Bucks and Kings

Mayo/Henson/top 10 protected 2015 1st
for
Stauskas/Landry/lotto protected 2017 first

Ersan to Houston for trade exception

Knight to Lakers for future 1st

2016 2nd to Atlanta for Muscala

Marshall/Wolters/Bayless
Stauskas/Middleton/Bayless
Giannis/Middleton/Dudley/Inglis
Parker/Landry/JOB
Sanders/Zaza/Muscala

Stauskas more or less is our 2015 draft pick, and pick up two future 1sts


Stauskas is not going big or going home, and certainly not worth giving up that draft pick. I'd definitely like to acquire him in some sort of Henson+ package, but that is way too much.

I'm pretty indifferent with the other deals outlined.


the Bucks are going to be picking in the teens in 2015, who would you target in that range that will have more upside than Stauskas? I think it's fair value.
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Post#204 » by M-C-G » Tue Dec 9, 2014 7:26 pm

So, here is a stab at the moves I would consider. I'd also add any 2nd round picks, and the Clippers future 1st to grease these deals to get them done.

Trade 1:
HOU IN: Ersan, Middleton (done in two different deals)
MKE IN: Linn TPE, Capela

Houston gets some pieces to stretch the floor and add a lot of depth at the cost of Capela essentially, who will is blocked by Dwight and D Mo.

Trade 2:
SAC IN: Henson, Knight, Mayo
MKE IN: McLemore, Landry, Williams

Milwaukee decides they aren't going to extend Knight and move a package for a player that will be added to the core. Sacremento loads up on a win now trade and gets a little salary relief by shipping Landry back to MKE.

Trade 3:
ATL IN: 2015 Top 3 protected 1st, ZaZa, Wolters
MKE IN: Schroeder, Elton Brand

Basically a shot at high lottery pick, and an old favorite back in Atlanta. Wolters provides some bench depth to make up for Schroeder's minutes.

Roster;
PG: Schroeder, Marshall, Bayless
SG: McLemore, Dudley
SF: Giannis, Inglis
PF: Parker, Williams, Landry
C: Sanders, Capela, JOB
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Post#205 » by GoldenAntlers » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:17 am

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Post#206 » by Bucks2585 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:27 am

OJ Mayo, Ersan, Dudley

for

Joe Johnson, Markel Brown

Giannis and Parker learn from one of the better iso scorers in the NBA. We trot out a 6-7 and 6-11 SG and SF to offset some of our rebounding issues. Its only 2 years left on Johnsons deal, its a big expiring for next year. Between Giannis, Knight, and Johnson, everyone shows some ability to create for others. Helps some of our other big men get on the floor more.

A clear win now, wont be as liked as some of the trades that bring back a top prospect, but those trades are generally unlikely. Id raather have 2 years of Joe Johnson than two years of Ersan and Mayo if were trying to develop a winning culture and have Giannis and Parker get as much playoff experience as early as they can.

Could also help turn Knight into more of a PG in the sense that he wont be looking to drive and score as much as he does or get shot happy. Knight has never been on a team with a really good, all around offensive player. Knight might be more cautious, hesitant, and be willing to defer to a great veteran player moreso than what he has had around him up to this point, which has really not been much as hes probably been one of if not the best offensive player on most of the teams hes been on.
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Re: Big 3 needed? Who is the target? Draft, FA or trade? 

Post#207 » by Rockmaninoff » Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:45 am

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Rockmaninoff wrote:They also need a lights-out shooter. I don't know who that is.


Parker + Middleton for JJ Redick, IMO.


Worst case, we can just flip him for a couple of seconds if it doesn't work out.


Lol. I'm thinking more of a 2/3 type size wise, that can shoot, pass a little, defend, and finish.

There are few headed for free agency (Butler, Matthews, Green), so it would be nice if the Bucks could clear some cap and be players.

I don't see a lot of realistic trade targets for that type of player. Definitely, not giving up Jabari AND Middleton for one. :D
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Post#208 » by blazza18 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:28 am

Bucks2585 wrote:wont be as liked


Cause it's absolutely awful. And we can't trade with the Nets anyway.
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Post#209 » by No-Man » Wed Dec 10, 2014 1:56 pm

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I'm not watching much of the NOLA team, so wouldn't pretend to know details. But I do see a team that has Anthony Davis on it that is sub .500. When you see a situation like that, it tells me they've got a PG who isn't impacting wins like he should.

they have Tyreke Evans, no depth and 0 SFs.

Asik is better than Sanders and Holiday is better than Mayo, it will take more than a 1st (top3 protected) and Henson to make that work.

NOLA will never make that trade, if the Bucks are able to do that they should throw a parade.
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Post#210 » by Bucks2585 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 2:00 pm

blazza18 wrote:
Bucks2585 wrote:wont be as liked


Cause it's absolutely awful. And we can't trade with the Nets anyway.


Forgot about that. At least its more likely in terms of value than these trades for prospects that other people are listing though.

Like the Schroeder trade above. Why would Atlanta trade Schroeder? Hes one of the best bench players in the NBA this year in addition to being a great prospect at PG. Unless Atlanta is getting something like that in return, they wont make that trade.

Its akin to us making the Tobias trade which we blast Hammond about. Most GMs dont make that type of trade.

We need to be looking at the overpaid veteran players that teams wont want. Like the Rudy Gays, the Joe Johnsons, the Josh Smiths. Find the ones that we feel will flourish in our system offensively and make it work from there. Everyone blasted the Kings for the Rudy Gay trade, but they accomplished getting that 3rd piece in a way that we are hoping for and discussing, trading scraps for an overpaid player and having that overpaid player flourish with them. But not one is trading us their top prospects.
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Post#211 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Dec 10, 2014 3:38 pm

I like Dennis Schroeder as well, but unless I'm missing something in the thread title, do people really believe that he has "3rd best guy on a contender" potential?

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