Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Possible DJ Augustin pg 64

Post #201 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:09 am

bucksbrewers3 wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
bucksbrewers3 wrote:

I just want to know based on what the lakers offered what we offered that wasn’t good enough

Maybe Bledsoe and pick 24?

Better pick but much more salary and Green/Bledsoe are pretty equal in player impact

That’s what I’m saying. It just doesn’t make sense. That’s better than the reported 28th pick and green.

No, I think it's worse.

Pick 24 and 28 are pretty similar in this draft.

Green is an easier and more valuable asset to flip right now.

OKC would have to eat a couple years of Bleds salary for him to be full expiring.

blazza18 · Post #202 » by **blazza18** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:09 am

Is 2 years of not being first round fodder sustained success?

James1980 · Post #203 » by **James1980** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:09 am

We could trade Bledsoe at the trade deadline, but I don't think we can go into playoffs next year with him as our starting pg.

SupremeHustle · Post #204 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:10 am

I know I give Horst a hard time, but I will acknowledge that he's in a very tough situation. A situation he helped situate, but still.

mke_design · Post #205 » by **mke_design** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:12 am

Matches Malone wrote:Hoping that's just GM speak, cause this core that's intact sucks.

Giannis Khris and Lopez don’t suck :banghead:

Matches Malone · Post #206 » by **Matches Malone** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:13 am

mke_design wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Hoping that's just GM speak, cause this core that's intact sucks.

Giannis Khris and Lopez don’t suck

I was being a bit hyperbolic, but this core still needs improvement.

mke_design · Post #207 » by **mke_design** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:14 am

blazza18 wrote:Is 2 years of not being first round fodder sustained success?

People in here all negative because we haven’t won anything yet and prepared for the worst because they’re “Wisconsin sports fans” while inside I’m just excited we’re a good team. Who knew there were multiple ways to think?

coolhandluke121 · Post #208 » by **coolhandluke121** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:23 am

mke_design wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Is 2 years of not being first round fodder sustained success?

People in here all negative because we haven’t won anything yet and prepared for the worst because they’re “Wisconsin sports fans” while inside I’m just excited we’re a good team. Who knew there were multiple ways to think?

Apparently going up 2-0 on the eventual champs in the ECF and losing in the 2nd round to the team that went to the finals in the weirdest postseason ever while having the best record in the NBA two years in a row is just "not first round fodder" to some people. The negativity is kind of sad and pathetic.

Horst's biggest mistake was making the team so good so fast, and with so little to work with outside of Giannis and to a lesser extent Khris, that anything less than a title became a disappointment within just 2 short years of the Kidd/Prunty era. And some people swear they have perspective and are being rational.

slos · Post #209 » by **slos** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:25 am

Bucks have been linked so far just with good role players. Bogdan, RoCo, Schroder, Tucker, Barnes etc. I don't think that any of them alone moves the needle. But two could put Milwaukee on top.

Trade 1

S/T Bogdan (4y/72mil/starting salary 19.5/declining) for Ersan, DDV, Wilson

Trade 2

Bucks in RoCo
Bucks out Bledsoe, #24

Houston in Randle, #24, #27
Houston out RoCo

Knicks in Bledsoe
Knicks out Randle, #27

Add whatever 2nds to make them both work

Hill
Bogdan
Middleton
Giannis
Brook
6th RoCo

blazza18 · Post #210 » by **blazza18** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:27 am

coolhandluke121 wrote:The negativity is kind of sad and pathetic. .

Oh give me a break with this negative bs. I asked a simple question. Do you or Horst know what sustained means?

LedZepp007 · Post #211 » by **LedZepp007** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:30 am

Saw this on Twitter

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Coach Carter · Post #212 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:31 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I know I give Horst a hard time, but I will acknowledge that he's in a very tough situation. A situation he helped situate, but still.

The Bledsoe decision could end up costing him his job. No idea what he was thinking there. To think he could've just let him walk...And now he is having to fix something he created. Good luck finding someone to take him that isn't desperate.

LedZepp007 · Post #213 » by **LedZepp007** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:34 am

Coach Carter wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I know I give Horst a hard time, but I will acknowledge that he's in a very tough situation. A situation he helped situate, but still.

The Bledsoe decision could end up costing him his job. No idea what he was thinking there. To think he could've just let him walk...And now he is having to fix something he created. Good luck finding someone to take him that isn't desperate.

Bledsoe is on a value contract. If anything he’s an asset in the right situation

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Wisky4life · Post #214 » by **Wisky4life** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:34 am

Doesn't Giannis hate Harden? Hate to pair them together and then Giannis just leaves.

James1980 · Post #215 » by **James1980** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:35 am

Coach Carter wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I know I give Horst a hard time, but I will acknowledge that he's in a very tough situation. A situation he helped situate, but still.

The Bledsoe decision could end up costing him his job. No idea what he was thinking there. To think he could've just let him walk...And now he is having to fix something he created. Good luck finding someone to take him that isn't desperate.

Reminds me of Hammond for getting credit for getting rid of his own mistakes.

Coach Carter · Post #216 » by **Coach Carter** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:38 am

LedZepp007 wrote:
Coach Carter wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I know I give Horst a hard time, but I will acknowledge that he's in a very tough situation. A situation he helped situate, but still.

The Bledsoe decision could end up costing him his job. No idea what he was thinking there. To think he could've just let him walk...And now he is having to fix something he created. Good luck finding someone to take him that isn't desperate.

Bledsoe is on a value contract. If anything he’s an asset in the right situation

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Sure on the Knicks he is

LedZepp007 · Post #217 » by **LedZepp007** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:39 am

To be fair, the owners are business people. They are probably acutely aware of how much more valuable the franchise is with Giannis on the Supermax. It will be worth it for them financially to go deep into the luxury tax if they have to in order to get Giannis to stay

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Gianstoppable · Post #218 » by **Gianstoppable** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:40 am

This board cracks me up but that's just fandom. Some fans are negative all the time, some are homers. This team isnt far off, but it's a little clunky.

If we change out Bledsoe then I'd like to see Jrue if we could swing it. If we keep Bledsoe I'd pair him with Bogdon if possible. Sign someone like Gallinari, Wes, etc

VooDoo7 · Post #219 » by **VooDoo7** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:42 am

Wisky4life wrote:Doesn't Giannis hate Harden? Hate to pair them together and then Giannis just leaves.

They won't make any large decisions without running it past Giannis first.

dbrodz7 · Post #220 » by **dbrodz7** » Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:43 am

Does anyone else think Harden is literally the perfect player to pair with Giannis? I know it's impossible and they don't get along, but strictly basketball speaking. Harden solves every single end of game problem for who takes the last shot, who can get to the line and make the free throws, and it would completely change the dynamic of walling off Giannis. Imagine a Giannis and Harden pick and roll.