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Post #201 » by **MickeyDavis** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:21 am

Ill-yasova · Post #202 » by **Ill-yasova** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:28 am

Daver wrote:Anyone on this board interested in a DJ/DDV for lou williams trade read a snipet today about that

If Lou was a few years younger I'd consider it, but at this point I'd keep DDV and roll the dice that he magically becomes a league average 3-point shooter (I'm skeptical though).

thonnisbeastley · Post #203 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:28 am

How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

giannis and 1 · Post #204 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:28 am

If Phoenix sucks this season, and decides to sell, is there any way we can add CP3 like halfway through the season without trading Giannis, Jrue, Middleton? I'm guessing not.

Do teams gain cap space in the NBA as the season goes on like in the NHL? Basically, in the NHL, as the season goes on, a team that started with 3mill in cap space will see that money grow to a much larger number (around like 8-10). It's done to promote trade deadline deals.

thonnisbeastley · Post #205 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:30 am

giannis and 1 wrote:If Phoenix sucks this season, and decides to sell, is there any way we can add CP3 like halfway through the season without trading Giannis, Jrue, Middleton? I'm guessing not.

Do teams gain cap space in the NBA as the season goes on like in the NHL? Basically, in the NHL, as the season goes on, a team that started with 3mill in cap space will see that money grow to a much larger number (around like 8-10). It's done to promote trade deadline deals.

Not possible.
Jrue > Paul anyway

StickeeFingaz · Post #206 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:30 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

Because nobody really wants him on their team, just bad vibes.

giannis and 1 · Post #207 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:30 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

Can't shoot, undisciplined, dumb as rocks, and a distraction off the court at times.

I wanted him a few years ago before we got Brook because he was one of the few bigs that didn't look like a complete bum when defending Giannis, but in today's NBA, it seems like your starting center has to be able to either move around the floor on defense or shoot 3's, preferably both.

jschligs · Post #208 » by **jschligs** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:31 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

Because he is a net negative on any team.

thonnisbeastley · Post #209 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:34 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

Can't shoot, undisciplined, dumb as rocks, and a distraction off the court at times.

I wanted him a few years ago before we got Brook because he was one of the few bigs that didn't look like a complete bum when defending Giannis, but in today's NBA, it seems like your starting center has to be able to either move around the floor on defense or shoot 3's, preferably both.

I'd rather play Whiteside 15 mins off the bench than DJ.

giannis and 1 · Post #210 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:36 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:How did Hassan Whiteside only get the vet min? 15.5ppg, 13.5 rpg, 2.9 bpg. We couldn't have thrown him 5 million instead of re-signing pat?

Can't shoot, undisciplined, dumb as rocks, and a distraction off the court at times.

I wanted him a few years ago before we got Brook because he was one of the few bigs that didn't look like a complete bum when defending Giannis, but in today's NBA, it seems like your starting center has to be able to either move around the floor on defense or shoot 3's, preferably both.

I'd rather play Whiteside 15 mins off the bench than DJ.

I mean, I'd trade DJ straight up for Whiteside. But that's about it. Wouldn't take him as just a free agent signing (meaning he takes away a roster spot from a different player).

giannis and 1 · Post #211 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:37 am

thonnisbeastley wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:If Phoenix sucks this season, and decides to sell, is there any way we can add CP3 like halfway through the season without trading Giannis, Jrue, Middleton? I'm guessing not.

Do teams gain cap space in the NBA as the season goes on like in the NHL? Basically, in the NHL, as the season goes on, a team that started with 3mill in cap space will see that money grow to a much larger number (around like 8-10). It's done to promote trade deadline deals.

Not possible.
Jrue > Paul anyway

I disagree. Jrue might be make more sense because of age, health, and salary, but CP3 is a better player.

thonnisbeastley · Post #212 » by **thonnisbeastley** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:43 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
thonnisbeastley wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:Can't shoot, undisciplined, dumb as rocks, and a distraction off the court at times.

I wanted him a few years ago before we got Brook because he was one of the few bigs that didn't look like a complete bum when defending Giannis, but in today's NBA, it seems like your starting center has to be able to either move around the floor on defense or shoot 3's, preferably both.

I'd rather play Whiteside 15 mins off the bench than DJ.

I mean, I'd trade DJ straight up for Whiteside. But that's about it. Wouldn't take him as just a free agent signing (meaning he takes away a roster spot from a different player).

I mean, on a vet min contract, he's not taking away a roster spot from a team with 9 playable players.

blazza18 · Post #213 » by **blazza18** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:48 am

Bucksfan28 wrote:Lou is a playoff underperformer, the exact opposite of what's needed.

Yea, this. Been a fan of him over the years but 'Id have only traded for him if all I cared about was making the 1st round.

msiris · Post #214 » by **msiris** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 12:53 am

giannis and 1 wrote:
msiris wrote:In the playoffs vs Miami Brook was preety much useless[/
He wasn't though..

His D was bad. So many floaters in the lane and Bam made him his bitch.

giannis and 1 · Post #215 » by **giannis and 1** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 1:43 am

msiris wrote:
giannis and 1 wrote:
msiris wrote:In the playoffs vs Miami Brook was preety much useless[/
He wasn't though..
His D was bad. So many floaters in the lane and Bam made him his bitch.

He made up for it on offense. Certainly wasn't useless. Overall I think he was pretty good.

Bernman · Post #216 » by **Bernman** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:04 am

Do you think the Bucks could have gotten Beal for the same level of assets as in the Holiday trade? If so it'd have likely secured Giannis and made the Bucks the title favorite. In that case the draft pick concessions would have been justifiable.

GoldenAntlers · Post #217 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:09 am

Matches Malone wrote:My only gripe with Brook is I wish Bud would use his low-post scoring ability more during those slower paced, half court games.

Makes no sense to me now we ha have a very skilled big man, but refuse to use his skill when we need it because of 3 pointers.

StickeeFingaz · Post #218 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:09 am

Bernman wrote:Do you think the Bucks could have gotten Beal for the same level of assets as in the Holiday trade? If so it'd have likely secured Giannis and made the Bucks the title favorite. In that case the draft pick concessions would have been justifiable.

Nah, don't think so. If Washington is trading Beal, the deal will include a blue chip young player + multiple 1sts.

Baddy Chuck · Post #219 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:10 am

Bernman wrote:Do you think the Bucks could have gotten Beal for the same level of assets as in the Holiday trade? If so it'd have likely secured Giannis and made the Bucks the title favorite. In that case the draft pick concessions would have been justifiable.

I mean I'm not really thinking too highly of the front office but you don't think they explored pretty much every avenue literally all their draft capital could have obtained?

Bernman · Post #220 » by **Bernman** » Tue Dec 1, 2020 4:12 am

StickeeFingaz wrote:Nah, don't think so. If Washington is trading Beal, the deal will include a blue chip young player + multiple 1sts.

They could work out a 3-way where Bledsoe goes somewhere else and they get a good prospect from that team. DiVincenzo could be added to fortify it. Plus they get as many as 4 high picks. That's a haul.