Game 21: Knicks at Bucks - 12/5/23 - 6:30 - IST TNT/BSWI

Post #201 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:40 am

mediocrityrules wrote:Any chance we see more than 4 seconds of Dre in the second half? We desperately need some defense out there, and he's the man to provide it.

Bud is stubborn with his rotations

CharityStripe34 · Post #202 » by **CharityStripe34** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:40 am

Jez2983 wrote:Honest to god, how are we not able to create some sort of reasonable D?

Too many below average defenders, and a scheme not suited to help.

140 points in a half is ridiculous. League has to change a few rules to balance things defensively. Get rid of defensive 3 seconds.

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tonyreyes123 · Post #203 » by **tonyreyes123** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:40 am

Portis sucks now

randy84 · Post #204 » by **randy84** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:40 am

AJ comes in and hits three threes in 7 mins. Never sees the ball again. That's some crappy coaching right there.

mattg · Post #205 » by **mattg** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:41 am

Chad34 wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:Bench Bobby for gods sake.

probably only option would be TA

Bobby is out there doing his best Drew Gooden impression rolling out the red carpet to the lane and not rebounding. Is Thanasis really going to be worse than never getting a rebound and giving up a layup line?

nagawicka · Post #206 » by **nagawicka** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:41 am

TroyD92 wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:
He's much better the way that Demar Derozan is.

ok carry on. he's mocked like he's a bum. Not being quite All NBA good is not the same as actually sucking. But i know many here are black and white on if you're not true star level good then the only other option is sucking. Meanwhile, he' l keep 20+ and 10+ while on winning teams. What's funny is takes on guys like him usually stem from being overpaid (like your derozan of 5ish years ago example). Randle isn't even overpaid. His next contract though, yea he can't be a 45 mil per year guy or you're not winning

Okay. Derozan was a good/borderline very good, but was never good enough to carry a team. Which is exactly what you described minus the contract. Randle is also one of the dumbest players in the league unlike Derozan.

and yet, he's burning us today

Siefer · Post #207 » by **Siefer** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:41 am

Knicks asked the Bucks very nicely if they could just isolate Bobby, and we were nice enough to agree. Nothing you can do when you're asked so politely.

Jez2983 · Post #208 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:41 am

paulpressey25 wrote:We shot 70% from three. And are only up 3. Not good.

Then again Randle’s shooting not sustainable either.

I feel we should expect more FT's in the second half. This game will be wild with the pace NY wants to play at. We have to slow them down.

Post #209 » by **MickeyDavis** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:42 am

If this is a "playoff" game the refs should call like one. Too many ticky tack fouls.

Willie Colon · Post #210 » by **Willie Colon** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:42 am

soxperry wrote:we would be so **** right now if we had no traded Jrue for Lillard. Our defense was already regressing even with Jrue on the team. Dame gives us a shot. Awesome.

Absolutely. I've felt this way about many games this season.

Post #211 » by **paulpressey25** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:42 am

randy84 wrote:AJ comes in and hits three threes in 7 mins. Never sees the ball again. That's some crappy coaching right there.

There was a glass half empty with AJ Green. Brunson was hunting him hard on offense. And he was getting burned badly.

FrieAaron · Post #212 » by **FrieAaron** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:43 am

blazza18 wrote:In disbelief of how poor Bobby is and how bad the defence remains despite suggestions it's been trending upwards.

Think we were 20th in DRTG a few games ago. Now we're 21 and gave up 72 points to New York in the first half. Amazingly, it seems to be trending downwards.

randy84 · Post #213 » by **randy84** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:43 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
randy84 wrote:AJ comes in and hits three threes in 7 mins. Never sees the ball again. That's some crappy coaching right there.

There was a glass half empty with AJ Green. Brunson was hunting him hard on offense. And he was getting burned badly.

Kind of like Portis?

Post #214 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:43 am

75-72 is gross as hell.

Jez2983 · Post #215 » by **Jez2983** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:44 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:Honest to god, how are we not able to create some sort of reasonable D?
Too many below average defenders, and a scheme not suited to help.

140 points in a half is ridiculous. League has to change a few rules to balance things defensively. Get rid of defensive 3 seconds.

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Agreed. Surely we can get something reasonable with multiple all-NBA defenders?

ReginaldDwight · Post #216 » by **ReginaldDwight** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:44 am

mattg wrote:
Chad34 wrote:
ReginaldDwight wrote:Bench Bobby for gods sake.

probably only option would be TA

Bobby is out there doing his best Drew Gooden impression rolling out the red carpet to the lane and not rebounding. Is Thanasis really going to be worse than never getting a rebound and giving up a layup line?

He would atleast bring some energy.

SupremeHustle · Post #217 » by **SupremeHustle** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:44 am

CharityStripe34 wrote:
Jez2983 wrote:Honest to god, how are we not able to create some sort of reasonable D?
Too many below average defenders, and a scheme not suited to help.

140 points in a half is ridiculous. League has to change a few rules to balance things defensively. Get rid of defensive 3 seconds.

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What if you could have the equivalent of a goalie so on defense you have six players? That player is never allowed to leave the paint.

soxperry · Post #218 » by **soxperry** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:45 am

mediocrityrules wrote:Any chance we see more than 4 seconds of Dre in the second half? We desperately need some defense out there, and he's the man to provide it.

maybe.. i'm not sure though. so far, the Knicks are staying in this thing by getting to the line on careless fouls on our part. we need to just be putting a hand up and living with the result and we are giving them the free points. I dont know if Andre is going to help with that.

i think we will continue to value having shooters on the floor so that Giannis and Dame have outlets on drives. Offensively, pretty damn good so far, only 2 or 3 possessions where i thought they weren't moving the ball or making a decisive shot.

skones · Post #219 » by **skones** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:45 am

But we can't trade Bobby because it's too fun to tell BOBBY BOBBY BOBBY

tsamo · Post #220 » by **tsamo** » Wed Dec 6, 2023 1:45 am

Hitting 70% from three and being just 3 points ahead at the half is a mood. And then you look at the rebound and they are outrebounding us almost 2:1. Brutal.

Giannis had some bad decisions here and there, but I'm not sure he should have 3 fouls right now. Some iffy calls tonight.
Also, Bobby killed us with that 6 point mistake there. We could be up 10 points if not for that.

Also Randle is just absurd tonight. He's gotten some calls too, but he is shooting out of his mind right now.