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Re: Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Finalizing Deal with Gallo 

Post#201 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:06 pm

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Missing 3s is dogging it? He's literally dove to the floor for a loose ball in 3 straight games.

He's missing one thing from his game, the ability to make 3s. If you think one of the games all time great shooters will never make 3s again, I think you're nuts.

If you think his lack of emotion while playing is a sign of being unhappy here, than I know you've never actually watched him play in Portland.

Isn’t he field goal percentage down across the board?


Only because it's being dragged by his 3 point %. His 2 point FG % is above his career average, and he leads the NBA in FT%.
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Post#202 » by Neuromancer56 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:54 pm

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LUKE23 wrote:Why are people complaining about the D? Since Rivers came in that hasn’t been the issue. In fact, they have been good. Offense needs to be fixed and there are many ways to go about that.



One of those ways is to fire Doc and re-hire Griff....continue the trend

Then we should re-fire Griff and re-hire Bud.
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Post#203 » by Profound23 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:57 pm

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LUKE23 wrote:Why are people complaining about the D? Since Rivers came in that hasn’t been the issue. In fact, they have been good. Offense needs to be fixed and there are many ways to go about that.



One of those ways is to fire Doc and re-hire Griff....continue the trend

Then we should re-fire Griff and re-hire Bud.


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Post#204 » by FlagsFlyForever » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:38 pm

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One of those ways is to fire Doc and re-hire Griff....continue the trend

Then we should re-fire Griff and re-hire Bud.


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Post#205 » by msiris » Sun Feb 18, 2024 4:52 pm

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Missing 3s is dogging it? He's literally dove to the floor for a loose ball in 3 straight games.

He's missing one thing from his game, the ability to make 3s. If you think one of the games all time great shooters will never make 3s again, I think you're nuts.

If you think his lack of emotion while playing is a sign of being unhappy here, than I know you've never actually watched him play in Portland.

Isn’t he field goal percentage down across the board?


Only because it's being dragged by his 3 point %. His 2 point FG % is above his career average, and he leads the NBA in FT%.
If he was smart he would attemp less 3s and more 2s with a chance to get to the line more. Every game he is like shooting a 50 50 split. It should be a more of a 75 25 split. He is not Steph.
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Post#206 » by Milbucks96 » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:39 pm

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giannis and 1 wrote:Isn’t he field goal percentage down across the board?


Only because it's being dragged by his 3 point %. His 2 point FG % is above his career average, and he leads the NBA in FT%.
If he was smart he would attemp less 3s and more 2s with a chance to get to the line more. Every game he is like shooting a 50 50 split. It should be a more of a 75 25 split. He is not Steph.

Im almost anti Dame at this point but I will say that this is where the fit between him and Giannis has started to look blurry. Giannis attracts so many defenders his gravity basically kills driving lanes. So many times Dame has no where to go when he beats someone off the dribble. I get why he’s settling for so many jumpers.

My biggest problem with Dame is his inability to make open jumpers and his horrible effort on defense for most of the game. I think if our non Giannis options weren’t so bad, you could stagger them more but I think our best bet is to just play Giannis and Dame together and try to overwhelm teams with talent. That’s not going to work deeper in the playoffs but it is what it is at this point.
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Post#207 » by Matches Malone » Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:46 pm

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Post#208 » by ShootingtheJ » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:07 pm

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giannis and 1 wrote:Isn’t he field goal percentage down across the board?


Only because it's being dragged by his 3 point %. His 2 point FG % is above his career average, and he leads the NBA in FT%.
If he was smart he would attemp less 3s and more 2s with a chance to get to the line more. Every game he is like shooting a 50 50 split. It should be a more of a 75 25 split. He is not Steph.



He is smart, and that's why he takes lots of 3s. Dame already gets tons of free throws, it's part of what makes him great. Another part of his greatness is his 3 point shooting. All he needs is to make 3s again.
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Post#209 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:25 pm

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Post#210 » by -Jragon- » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:28 pm

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Only because it's being dragged by his 3 point %. His 2 point FG % is above his career average, and he leads the NBA in FT%.
If he was smart he would attemp less 3s and more 2s with a chance to get to the line more. Every game he is like shooting a 50 50 split. It should be a more of a 75 25 split. He is not Steph.



He is smart, and that's why he takes lots of 3s. Dame already gets tons of free throws, it's part of what makes him great. Another part of his greatness is his 3 point shooting. All he needs is to make 3s again.


You guys are both right... and I'll add... when your shot is off then pump fake a little extra and drive or draw and kick to who's hot.. so when you're off don't let 1-4 turn into 1-7 and lose by 2... it actually is kinda dumb to do that
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Post#211 » by theFireBlanket » Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:45 pm

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We really should have never fired Bud. Giannis name checking Bud at the top of going through 4 different coaches in 6 months had me thinking that.

I want this to work out with Doc but I never truly got behind that first move.
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Post#212 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:03 pm

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Post#213 » by AussieBuck » Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:09 pm

The long two is very often there for Dame when Giannis rolls hard and it looks good in the rare occasions he takes it. Would love to see him use that spot early to get his jumper going before launching the long threes.
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Post#214 » by BigO » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:06 pm

In between the Giannis trade discussion and Bud nostalgia, there still are some decent comments here. Kudos to those who can see the forest from the trees:

1) Dame was the right move
2) They need time to gel. There should still be enough time.
3) Doc needs to stop playing golf with PC and have a plan to up the playing time of the starters in order to get some consistency on offense and defense.
4) Do some tinkering and come up with 2 to 3 bench guys you feel comfortable with. I have my own ideas, but whatever it is, each of those 3 guys have to at least provide either offense or defense. Right now, I don't think PC or Crowder are doing either.
5) There are no juggernauts. Boston has a real nice starting 5, but their bench isn't great either.
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Post#215 » by msiris » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:42 pm

AussieBuck wrote:The long two is very often there for Dame when Giannis rolls hard and it looks good in the rare occasions he takes it. Would love to see him use that spot early to get his jumper going before launching the long threes.
It doesn't even need to be a long two. 15 footers should be money for him.
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Post#216 » by -Jragon- » Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:46 pm

AussieBuck wrote:The long two is very often there for Dame when Giannis rolls hard and it looks good in the rare occasions he takes it. Would love to see him use that spot early to get his jumper going before launching the long threes.


We need less long 2s.. I would agree that his 3s should be regular length until he heats up
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Post#217 » by benultimate » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:28 am

If we knew we were getting Dame then keeping Bud would have no doubt been the right call. But something had to change after last season, and the Jrue for Dame deal wasn't even on the horizon at that stage. It's probably my biggest "What if" surrounding this season, what if we kept Bud & still landed Dame....
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Post#218 » by AussieBuck » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:32 am

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AussieBuck wrote:The long two is very often there for Dame when Giannis rolls hard and it looks good in the rare occasions he takes it. Would love to see him use that spot early to get his jumper going before launching the long threes.


We need less long 2s.. I would agree that his 3s should be regular length until he heats up

He doesn't really get guarded for shooting regular threes. It's logo, long two or layup between how him and Giannis are guarded. Twos from guys who can hit them well are very valuable in the playoffs.
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Post#219 » by TroyD92 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:42 am

I think its a big assumption that Bud even wants to coach right now.
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Post#220 » by Milbucks96 » Mon Feb 19, 2024 12:48 am

benultimate wrote:If we knew we were getting Dame then keeping Bud would have no doubt been the right call. But something had to change after last season, and the Jrue for Dame deal wasn't even on the horizon at that stage. It's probably my biggest "What if" surrounding this season, what if we kept Bud & still landed Dame....

Yup, something had to change and the coach was the easiest move to make. Firing Bud was the right move only if you got someone good or great, which was Nurse (or maybe Atkinson but who knows). Coming out of the smoke with Doc rivers on a contract that spans the rest of the contending window is a step backwards no matter what.

I think if they knew they were getting Dame, they don’t get rid of Bud.

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