Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Rollins Back, 3/$12 million

[M-C-G]

I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal

Doesn’t he have the same agent with Turner?

That might explain it. I'm not a huge fan of Harris. Used to be way back in the day. But now, I don't know.

I am surprised to see that he's only 30.

I always confuse Harris with Eric Gordon. Who is old as dirt (professionally)

[ReddRum]

So we could trade Kuzma, 31 FRP and 32 swap and bring back up to 30 mil. Who is out there you'd be willing to give up that package for? In the words of a great Bucks fan "GIVE ME NAMES!"

Ingram, Fox, Wiggins, Murphy, Vassell, Barrett, Herro, Barrett, Derozan, Simons.

We need Rich Paul to force Fox here

Assuming the price for Herro is Kuzma, 2 First rounds picks, plus players who says yes to "go all in"? If you say no what would be your deal?

[-Jragon-]

Kuzma is talented and athletically gifted.. he needs coaching.. unfortunately we lack that like his last stops. If he was in a Popovich type organization he'd be a legit 2nd option for a winning team type

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Who is the right SF we can target with those future picks?

im perfectly fine with kuzma for now. i think we are overzealously negative with him. if he plays like a energy vortex and minutes getter in the lopez mold and gets 11-12 pts a game and just alot of energy....then as a vortex with this current roster id be perfectly fine. maybe he even becomes good. i could see it happen

the main thing is the next 4 years were gonna spend less on turner than we would have with dame. thats better value. we have prince and all the smalls to go with 3 guard lineups with our big rotation. were fine if kuzmas there or not

[Milbucks96]

Kuzma sucks and at his absolute best is like a 8th man for a contender.

[Ron Swanson]

Harris kinda found his shot again 2-3 years ago, but ever since that season he's basically scored at a 34-37 year old Wes Matthews rate on mediocre to bad efficiency. Just a really baffling signing on Day 2 of free agency. Everybody hates Taurean Prince, but he's a significantly better player at this point.

[tedbrogen]

If you keep Kuz, Doc starts him at SF (and probably Prince at SG). You have to take that away from Doc.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

kuzmas best value is next year as an expiring with the picks we'll have that we havent blown this offseason. hard to believe were all upbeat and we have that 31 and 32 intact.

id almost say at this point we just chill and if were gonna blow kuzma into trade for this year we do it at the deadline once we get a read on everything else

[tedbrogen]

Harris kinda found his shot again 2-3 years ago, but ever since that season he's basically scored at a 34-37 year old Wes Matthews rate on mediocre to bad efficiency. Just a really baffling signing on Day 2 of free agency. Everybody hates Taurean Prince, but he's a significantly better player at this point.

Probably a favor to Turner’s agent and also a good vet to teach some D tricks to the younger guys. He won’t play meaningful minutes when it matters.

[-Jragon-]

Honestly are we just taking Indianas identity lol?

Hali is better than KPJ but he fits the mold of the fast playmaker than can score.

Turner is… Turner

Giannis is Siakim on steroids

Trent, Green, Bobby are solid role players that can knock down shots and play with a fast paced offense

If they could play mostly smaller 3 guard lineups backed by Turner/Siakim surely we can do that with Turner/GIANNIS

Bobby and "fast paced" don't belong in the same sentence. The faster he tries to recover the more he runs straight away from where he should be..

But I agree with your premise and it's not a bad idea to be the souped up Pacers if Giannis and KPJ have some great chemistry

[bucksfansince88]

So we could trade Kuzma, 31 FRP and 32 swap and bring back up to 30 mil. Who is out there you'd be willing to give up that package for? In the words of a great Bucks fan "GIVE ME NAMES!"

Ingram, Fox, Wiggins, Murphy, Vassell, Barrett, Herro, Barrett, Derozan, Simons.

We need Rich Paul to force Fox here

I would greatly prefer a bigger wing, someone in the 6"7-6"9 range. We've already got our fair share of undersized 2-guards.

Agree but KPJ can guard 1-3 and is a legit 6'6. fox could be the creator/closer we need

[GoldenAntlers]

I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal

Doesn’t he have the same agent with Turner?

That might explain it. I'm not a huge fan of Harris. Used to be way back in the day. But now, I don't know.

I am surprised to see that he's only 30.

Oh, wow. I swear it was 13 years ago that he had an upside.

[ReddRum]

Harris kinda found his shot again 2-3 years ago, but ever since that season he's basically scored at a 34-37 year old Wes Matthews rate on mediocre to bad efficiency. Just a really baffling signing on Day 2 of free agency. Everybody hates Taurean Prince, but he's a significantly better player at this point.

Both odds choices to me as well but both are cheap and we need some capable bodies off the bench. We aren't all going to agree on which fringe NBA players should fill out the end of the bench roster...

[M-C-G]

Harris kinda found his shot again 2-3 years ago, but ever since that season he's basically scored at a 34-37 year old Wes Matthews rate on mediocre to bad efficiency. Just a really baffling signing on Day 2 of free agency. Everybody hates Taurean Prince, but he's a significantly better player at this point.

I always want to give it a beat to see how a guy plays with the gravity Giannis draws. I could see a scenario where we are pretty happy with Harris. And if we aren’t, oh well it was a min deal and we need to fill out the roster.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

If you keep Kuz, Doc starts him at SF (and probably Prince at SG). You have to take that away from Doc.

its nuts to say we should dump him for these reasons when doc himself benched him in the playoffs. took doc a couple dozen games but he figured it out

and on the flip side if youre looking for just a swiss army knife regular season minutes getter than you know he is ok if hes serious about contributing.

like i said. if we dont have a real upgrade trade available i say we keep him and play him. he fits the modern league in theory at least

[paulpressey25]

There are a lot of national analysts saying we're effectively paying Turner 50m a year. This is a stupid and impractical way of thinking about it.

They’re not wrong on the surface. But they never go the step further in logic. Our only other alternative is paying gimpy Dame $120 million for one maybe recovery year in 2026 when he’ll be 36.

[SupremeHustle]

Happy that the Bucks re-signed Sims. Really like his energy. He's got some controlled chaos in his game. AJax needs to get some of that.

[BroncoBuck]

You guys still like Ryan Dunn? Dunn for Dairy works.

Dairy>>>>>>>>Dunn

Dunn was terrible after his lucky three point shooting early in the year fell off.

[bucksfansince88]

So we could trade Kuzma, 31 FRP and 32 swap and bring back up to 30 mil. Who is out there you'd be willing to give up that package for? In the words of a great Bucks fan "GIVE ME NAMES!"

Ingram, Fox, Wiggins, Murphy, Vassell, Barrett, Herro, Barrett, Derozan, Simons.

We need Rich Paul to force Fox here

Assuming the price for Herro is Kuzma, 2 First rounds picks, plus players who says yes to "go all in"? If you say no what would be your deal?

Fox Yes, Herro No. cheapest guys to acquire would probably be Barret, Derozan or Simons..

[BUCKnation]

I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal

Doesn’t he have the same agent with Turner?

That might explain it. I'm not a huge fan of Harris. Used to be way back in the day. But now, I don't know.

I am surprised to see that he's only 30.

30 going on 36 in my mind