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Post#2021 » by JimmyTheKid » Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:10 pm

crkone wrote:http://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/bestofdining2015.html


Overall, this list is pretty spot on. Rice N Roll opened up right down the street from my condo and the sushi is the best I've had in Milwaukee. I've been to Movida twice and had two very nice experiences. Milwaukee was long overdue for an authentic paella place. Embarrassingly, I've never had an Oscar's burger. That needs to change soon. I also need to hit Company Brewing. Might sound blasphemous, but Cosmos Cafe in Tosa > Oakland Gyros and its not close. And just reading "Points East" made my mouth water at 8AM. Its been too long.
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Post#2022 » by glenn » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:18 pm

If Atlas is the best BBQ then we're in trouble.
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Post#2023 » by humanrefutation » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:29 pm

Madison folks: I checked out Double S BBQ on Monroe, who is getting into a beef with the locals about their desire to have a smoker in-house. Let me tell you - they definitely need it. That food was dry, salty, and mushy. It's pretty clear they were shipping it in rather than cooking it nearby. They had an AMAZING buttermilk pie though, so that's something.
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Post#2024 » by crkone » Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:39 pm

BBQ is so subjective.
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Post#2025 » by stellation » Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:32 pm

$1 billion for Ballast Point? Holy hell!
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Post#2026 » by EastSideBucksFan » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:00 pm

glenn wrote:If Atlas is the best BBQ then we're in trouble.



I'd rather get a BBQ pork sandwich from Wendy's than go back to Atlas.

Terrible brisket, portions and prices. Ribs were OK, pulled pork was OK.


I'm looking forward to Iron Grate BBQ opening and their "Milwaukee Rib" with the pork belly still attached.

http://www.radiomilwaukee.org/moody-cook/chef-aims-create-milwaukee-style-bbq-new-restaurant-iron-grate-bbq-video
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Post#2027 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:04 pm

I still enjoy Smoke Shack
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Post#2028 » by Zeezprah » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:20 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I still enjoy Smoke Shack



dat friday mac n cheese lunch special :bowdown:
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Post#2029 » by Ill-yasova » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:52 am

stellation wrote:$1 billion for Ballast Point? Holy hell!

They're going to take it too. I have a buddy who designs all of their tap handles (does not produce) and they've been cutting every cost possible to try to look profitable. They even took their production away from a small local company and shipped it off to a company in China to save $2 a tapper.

I've never bought a Ballast Point beer because I hate the way the gouge people on Sculpin, and now I'll never buy anything they make going forward.
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Post#2030 » by stellation » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:21 am

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stellation wrote:$1 billion for Ballast Point? Holy hell!

They're going to take it too. I have a buddy who designs all of their tap handles (does not produce) and they've been cutting every cost possible to try to look profitable. They even took their production away from a small local company and shipped it off to a company in China to save $2 a tapper.

I've never bought a Ballast Point beer because I hate the way the gouge people on Sculpin, and now I'll never buy anything they make going forward.

I've enjoyed their beers that I've had, but Sculpin did kind of kill me- I made the mistake of buying a 6 pack (in Australia, at import insanity prices!) as a bit of a giddy "oh, Sculpin!" moment and whilst it was nice (not as fresh as could be, which is fair enough under the circumstances) and I got a decent discount it was still outrageously expensive AND my better half was with me and heard how much it cost! I'm far from cheap and am happy to fork over cash for nice things, but it is one that I then went "oh, I am enjoying this experience less because of the price".

The tapper story is interesting, and whilst I get trying to cut costs I think one of the real challenges with that for craft breweries is that they benefit (either directly, or indirectly through being part of an industry sector) from the goodwill of consumers that they follow a craft/local ethos, with an almost inherent assumption that they as a business behave in a manner in line with that ethos.
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Post#2031 » by stellation » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:29 am

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
glenn wrote:If Atlas is the best BBQ then we're in trouble.



I'd rather get a BBQ pork sandwich from Wendy's than go back to Atlas.

Terrible brisket, portions and prices. Ribs were OK, pulled pork was OK.


I'm looking forward to Iron Grate BBQ opening and their "Milwaukee Rib" with the pork belly still attached.

http://www.radiomilwaukee.org/moody-cook/chef-aims-create-milwaukee-style-bbq-new-restaurant-iron-grate-bbq-video

Love the idea of leaving some belly attached to ribs, if they can nail them that should be fantastic.
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Post#2032 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:19 pm

The holiday toast just became a little more special. This year, Chimay is sending 20 kegs of its Chimay Grand Reserve, originally brewed as a Christmas beer, to Milwaukee.

The beer is brewed in one of 11 Trappist monasteries where yeast is added in the bottle or keg before the vessel is sealed. It's available in draft form at the holiday season.

Beginning Monday, beer from the Belgian brewery will be on tap at a few nearby locations. The Lowlands Group — owners of Cafe Benelux, Cafe Centraal, and Cafe Hollanders in Milwaukee, Wauwatosa and Madison — will have 18 kegs of the beer available.

Stilt House Gastro Bar, W62-N630 Washington Ave, Cedarburg, also will tap Chimay Grand Reserve holiday beer.

"Normally, they only sell it on the East Coast," said Stilt House owner Gordon Goggin. "It is a big deal."

Also worth noting: Benno's, 7413 W. Greenfield Ave., West Allis, is expanding the number of its taps from 30 to 40. Benno's has had 30 tap choices since 1989 so expect big beers such as Founders Backwoods Bastard, Upland Teddy Bear Kisses Russian Imperial Stout, Central Waters Barrel Aged Scotch Ale and Abita Bourbon Street Barrel Aged Maple/Pecan Nut Brown among the new taps.

There are a few big deals coming up in beer world:

Nov. 18:The Brass Tap, 7808 W. Layton Ave., hosts a Wells and Young Ice Cream social starting at 5 p.m. They'll be making floats or generally serving Wells Banana Bread Draft, Youngs Double Chocolate Draft and Wells Sticky Toffee Pudding Ale Bottle paired with ice cream.

Nov. 19: Turkey and beer pairing at Rock Bottom, 740 N. Plankinton Ave., from 5:30 to 7:30 p.m. The free event pairs four Thanksgiving favorites with four Rock Bottom beers, according to the Rock Bottom Facebook page.

Nov. 25:Biloba Brewing, 18720 Pleasant St., Brookfield, releases its Cherry Lambic brews for $12 a bottle. Beginning Dec. 17 they will offer bourbon-barrel-aged Breakfast Stout for $15 a bottle. Home-brew meetings resume Jan. 19 from 6:30 to 8 p.m.

Nov. 27: It's become a Black Friday tradition. Stand in line for the annual barrel-aged Black Friday release beer at Lakefront Brewery, 1872 N. Commerce St. A few upgrades are planned. They're moving the hot dog cart to the front. Expect to be able to get coffee, maybe some warm treats while you're waiting in line. Beers will be $15 a bottle. Doors open at 8 a.m.

Nov. 27 and 28:Discount Liquor, 5031 W. Oklahoma Ave., offers Goose Island brews both days. Look for Bourbon County Stout, Coffee Stout and Barleywine on the first day and the BCS variants on day two.

Nov. 27: The annual Black Friday Beerfest continues from 4 to 7 p.m. in The Garage at the Harley-Davidson Museum, 400 W. Canal St. General admission is $40.

Nov. 27: Stubby's Gastrogrub and Beer Bar, 2060 N. Humboldt Ave., gets in on the Black Friday action with brunch starting at 10 a.m. What goes with brunch food? A trio of Goose Island Bourbon County brews.

Nov. 28:Ray's Growler Gallery & Wine Bar calls it "Super Saturday." Doors open at 8 a.m. for beer releases that include all the Bourbon County beers (sold this year in 16.9-ounce bottles instead of four-packs). The first 40 in line get two tickets: one for the allocation of Bourbon County Stout and another to be part of a lottery for rare beers that Ray's has cellared for the occasion including Dogfish Head Higher Math and Sam Adams Utopias. Everyone else gets a ticket for BCS. The Growler Gallery will have BCS on tap and is open to ticket holders. Doors open at 8 a.m. at the store, 8930 W. North Ave., Wauwatosa.

Nov. 28: Uber Tap Room, 1048 N. Old World 3rd St., hosts a Barley and Whey Festival starting at 1 p.m., according to the Facebook page. That's followed at 7 p.m. by the ultimate Wisconsin Tasting in which six local craft beers are matched with six artisan cheeses. Representatives from Brenner Brewing, Milwaukee Brewing and Clockshadow Creamery will serve as guides. Tickets for the Wisconsin Tastings are $24.20 and are available online at eventbrite.

Nov. 30: Burnhearts, 2599 S. Logan Ave., presents Blacker Monday, which is really just a pet name for BCS Monday where they're serving Bourbon County Stout, BSC Variants and more beginning at 5 p.m. On Dec. 17, the bar hosts The Sour on Christmas starting at 1 p.m. Expect sour beer, Christmas ales and a creepy Santa, according to the Blacker Monday Facebook page.

Dec. 1: Comet Cafe, 1947 N. Farwell Ave., closes out its 10th year of Beer School with a look back at the year by tasting a dozen favorites starting at 7 p.m. Bring a beer for the gift exchange, said the Beer School Facebook page.
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Post#2033 » by KidA24 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:13 pm

Was at Benno's last night.

Lots of big beers & barrel aged stuff on tap. Lots of stouts. Really nice selection. They are celebrating their 35th annaversary with some free beer from Sprecher starting at 6pm Fri & Sat (til the keg runs out).
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Post#2034 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:20 pm

Question for the beer guys. If a place has 50-75 beers on tap do you think they go through them all fast enough that they stay fresh? Do you think they'll ditch stuff that's old and eat the loss or just keep it on tap until someone eventually drinks it? That's always my concern when I'm at a place that has a ton of beers on tap (or even bottles). Just how fresh is the stuff...
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Post#2035 » by crkone » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:41 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Question for the beer guys. If a place has 50-75 beers on tap do you think they go through them all fast enough that they stay fresh? Do you think they'll ditch stuff that's old and eat the loss or just keep it on tap until someone eventually drinks it? That's always my concern when I'm at a place that has a ton of beers on tap (or even bottles). Just how fresh is the stuff...


It takes a long time for non-hoppy beer to go bad (especially in kegs), so there isn't much you should worry about. If you are getting a hoppy beer, it's best to know when the beer is released if it is a seasonal beer. For instance, wet hop beers were recently released at the end of the harvest season. You want to drink these asap since what gives hoppy beer their bitterness, isomerized alpha acids, break down relatively quickly and the beer looses flavor. This is delayed by storing in the dark and in the cold.

Most other beers have no problems sitting, and in fact some get better with age like barleywines and stouts (but most won't age long enough or fast enough sitting in a cooler). I have over 100 bottles of beer ranging from stouts to barleywines to sours in my basement waiting to be traded or drank.

Bars and restaurants have only so much space though so they'll ditch beers if it is needed. They make an absolute killing on beer though. They may make up to $5 per glass of beer sold so getting everything out of the keg isn't that big of a deal.

The big, big problem though is with maintenance of their lines. I'll leave a bar/restaurant if they give me a funky/soapy/vinegary tasting beer when I damn know it's not supposed to taste that way. Luckily, I think most beer places know the importance of this.
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Post#2036 » by FireStreetlifeNow » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:42 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Question for the beer guys. If a place has 50-75 beers on tap do you think they go through them all fast enough that they stay fresh? Do you think they'll ditch stuff that's old and eat the loss or just keep it on tap until someone eventually drinks it? That's always my concern when I'm at a place that has a ton of beers on tap (or even bottles). Just how fresh is the stuff...


It really depends on the location and who is running it. Uncle Mike's on I-94 and Highway 50 in Kenosha has 86 taps and I've noticed a fair amount of issues with beers there. I'm not sure if it's because they can't turn them over or if they don't clean the lines enough. I think line cleanliness might actually be more important than the freshness when it comes to kegged beer.

Some places will put kegs that are close to kicking or not selling on special to move them along. Erv's Mug in Oak Creek will make a handful of beers half price on Sunday to keep the product changing. I've never had any issues with freshness at the places I frequent - Sugar Maple, Burnhearts, Stubby's, Erv's Mug, Landmark 1800 and Palm. Granted most of those don't have 50-75 taps other than Stubby's but I'll put Burnhearts 24 taps up against Brass Taps 70-whatever and I think Burnhearts wins that battle of quality beers. I've also been to HopCat is Grand Rapids (60 taps)/Madison(100+ taps) and have never had any issues there either.
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Post#2037 » by MickeyDavis » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:01 pm

Great info, thanks guys. Unclean beer lines has always been an issue, even in the "old days" of non craft beers. I've had some nasty drafts. I go to Erv's Mug quite a bit, I like the place and they have a good selection. I didn't know about their Sunday special, I'm never there on a Sunday.
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Post#2038 » by KidA24 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:35 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Great info, thanks guys. Unclean beer lines has always been an issue, even in the "old days" of non craft beers. I've had some nasty drafts. I go to Erv's Mug quite a bit, I like the place and they have a good selection. I didn't know about their Sunday special, I'm never there on a Sunday.


It's really up to ownership of the place and whether they care about their beer drinking public.

I know some spots won't toss kegs (as a rule) and I've had to convince people they needed to re-try that beer when it was fresh, because what they had was skunktastic.
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Post#2039 » by neiLz » Wed Nov 18, 2015 5:52 pm

Benno's is pretty cool. Went there a few weeks ago on a friday with my brother. Their special is buy one get one free taps and half off apps. Had the Lagunitas Born yesterday Pale Ale - Amazing.
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Post#2040 » by M-C-G » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:06 pm

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crkone wrote:http://onmilwaukee.com/dining/articles/bestofdining2015.html


Overall, this list is pretty spot on. Rice N Roll opened up right down the street from my condo and the sushi is the best I've had in Milwaukee. I've been to Movida twice and had two very nice experiences. Milwaukee was long overdue for an authentic paella place. Embarrassingly, I've never had an Oscar's burger. That needs to change soon. I also need to hit Company Brewing. Might sound blasphemous, but Cosmos Cafe in Tosa > Oakland Gyros and its not close. And just reading "Points East" made my mouth water at 8AM. Its been too long.


Looks like Tosa dining killed it....Leff's, Hollander, Rocket Baby, Hue and Blue Egg (might be Milwaukee but close enough)

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