Stein: Strong possibility Bucks active due to slow start

jakecronus8 · Post #221 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:13 pm

Wonka wrote:
randy84 wrote:
yoshii8 wrote:I just read that Jeremy Lamb might be available, they are looking for a more experienced backup. How about Gary Neal??

How about OJ Mayo for Lamb and their first?

Would you guys rather have Lamb or Jackson?

Lamb, especially if mayo is going out. Mayo wouldn't nab both Lamb and their first and unlikely to nab even just Lamb.

Baddy Chuck · Post #222 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:17 pm

I Rasharted wrote:Pissing in the wind: does MIL do Nelson + Afflalo for Henson + 2015 top-5 protected 1st? (Does ORL?)

Yay pointless trade ideas.

Obviously not.

cameroncrazies2 · Post #223 » by **cameroncrazies2** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:17 pm

I Rasharted wrote:Pissing in the wind: does MIL do Nelson + Afflalo for Henson + 2015 top-5 protected 1st? (Does ORL?)

Yay pointless trade ideas.

Please delete immediately before Kohl gets ideas. Hell no.

4xBuck · Post #224 » by **4xBuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:18 pm

To make it work, Perkins would have to be part of the trade.

So, ya, 1st round pick(s) would be going to MLK.

CanadaBucks · Post #225 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:21 pm

I Rasharted wrote:Pissing in the wind: does MIL do Nelson + Afflalo for Henson + 2015 top-5 protected 1st? (Does ORL?)

Yay pointless trade ideas.

Seriously? Maybe Olapido and Vuc for Henson and our first. Maybe both are equally outrageous.

Baddy Chuck · Post #226 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:22 pm

4xBuck wrote:To make it work, Perkins would have to be part of the trade.

So, ya, 1st round pick(s) would be going to MLK.

Nahhhh. Lamb is easily worth taking on Perkins while giving up as mediocre a player as Mayo, no picks are really necessary. I don't think they even do Lamb/Perkins for Mayo.

bizarro · Post #227 » by **bizarro** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:24 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:
Wonka wrote:
randy84 wrote:
How about OJ Mayo for Lamb and their first?

Would you guys rather have Lamb or Jackson?

Lamb, especially if mayo is going out. Mayo wouldn't nab both Lamb and their first and unlikely to nab even just Lamb.

I'll take either one. Jackson is the more complete player today, however. He's a legitimate candidate to start on most teams in the NBA - especially, weaker East Conference teams. IMHO, OKC would be extremely reluctant to give up their star back-up PG. He's simply too valuable for what they do and, particularly considering Westbrook is fresh off an injury.

So, that leaves us with Lamb who gives us something that seems to be an ongoing theme amongst us - size and length with upside. He's shown an increased shooting efficiency this year paired with better decision-making. There's no way Mayo would net us a first rounder in addition to Lamb. If anything, we'd have to throw in one of our 2nd round draftpicks and maybe more.

I Rasharted · Post #228 » by **I Rasharted** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:38 pm

CanadaBucks wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:Pissing in the wind: does MIL do Nelson + Afflalo for Henson + 2015 top-5 protected 1st? (Does ORL?)

Yay pointless trade ideas.

Seriously? Maybe Olapido and Vuc for Henson and our first. Maybe both are equally outrageous.

Definitely equally outrageous. I'm just curious where Afflalo ranks among fans right now. Not terribly high apparently (and I agree with that).

Ayt · Post #229 » by **Ayt** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:38 pm

OKC really can't afford Mayo.

Baddy Chuck · Post #230 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:48 pm

Ayt wrote:OKC really can't afford Mayo.

Don't see why they couldn't, I don't think they really want Mayo though.

mlloyd10 · Post #231 » by **mlloyd10** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:51 pm

Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

ConoverBucks · Post #232 » by **ConoverBucks** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:51 pm

I Rasharted wrote:
CanadaBucks wrote:
I Rasharted wrote:Pissing in the wind: does MIL do Nelson + Afflalo for Henson + 2015 top-5 protected 1st? (Does ORL?)

Yay pointless trade ideas.

Seriously? Maybe Olapido and Vuc for Henson and our first. Maybe both are equally outrageous.

Definitely equally outrageous. I'm just curious where Afflalo ranks among fans right now. Not terribly high apparently (and I agree with that).

I'm sure Afflalo would rank pretty high on a contender or a playoff team but he just wouldn't make sense for the Bucks.

cinematographer · Post #233 » by **cinematographer** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:53 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

OKC says no, then laughs about it.

drew881 · Post #234 » by **drew881** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:53 pm

They probably would want Middleton first. Cheaper, does what they need and is bigger. Take a first for him? I like Middleton, but I wonder if a first is better value in our draft.

mlloyd10 · Post #235 » by **mlloyd10** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:55 pm

cinematographer wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

OKC says no, then laughs about it.

Please explain. Are you saying Lamb and Adams has a ton more value than Mayo and Ilyasova?

Baddy Chuck · Post #236 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:55 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

OKC says no, then laughs about it.

Please explain. Are you saying Lamb and Adams has a ton more value than Mayo and Ilyasova?

Yes.

Baddy Chuck · Post #237 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:56 pm

Really though, what about Mayo's game mixed with his contract makes anyone believe Mayo has value?

Turd Ferguson · Post #238 » by **Turd Ferguson** » Mon Dec 9, 2013 11:59 pm

mlloyd10 wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

OKC says no, then laughs about it.

Please explain. Are you saying Lamb and Adams has a ton more value than Mayo and Ilyasova?

No way in hell OKC would give up on two young guys who will likely be better than their older counterparts in Ersan/Mayo within two years time.

cinematographer · Post #239 » by **cinematographer** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:00 am

mlloyd10 wrote:
cinematographer wrote:
mlloyd10 wrote:Ilyasova/Mayo for Perkins/Adams/Lamb

OKC says no, then laughs about it.

Please explain. Are you saying Lamb and Adams has a ton more value than Mayo and Ilyasova?

They're both on rookie contracts, they both can already play a role, and the Thunder don't have cap space anyways.

The Thunder are one of the few teams that recognize Arsen's value, but they're also one of the few teams that would have Mayo in a bench role. Mayo, while better than Perkins, is still making a lot for the role he'd play for them.

The Thunder's cap situation would only get worse, and they'd lose most of their growth from within potential.

4xBuck · Post #240 » by **4xBuck** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:01 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
4xBuck wrote:To make it work, Perkins would have to be part of the trade.

So, ya, 1st round pick(s) would be going to MLK.

Nahhhh. Lamb is easily worth taking on Perkins while giving up as mediocre a player as Mayo, no picks are really necessary. I don't think they even do Lamb/Perkins for Mayo.

Oh ya, maybe both picks, too.

Perkins awful contract is a huge negative value... Mayo as the 3rp option in OKC would be excellent. He'd probably have a .550 ts%

Someone on the Lamb thread on the trade board posted:

Mayo & Udoh

for

Perkins, Lamb 2014 1st.

I think this is fair...