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Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:40 am
by MrHoneycutt
highkick05 wrote:
TD75 wrote:A big factor in today's loss was the rebounds differential. Lopez needs to do a better job under the basket, and the same stands for the Bucks' guards.


Lopez just let Embiid play his game. I was a little upset watching Embiid get past Lopez that easily.

I mean let him shoot if you want but put a body in front of him, you're allowed to ffs


That was my thing too. Embiid hit some really tough shots and did what he does, but Brook had more than a few plays where he just didn't get in his grill enough while he drove to the hoop, and didn't get out to contest him at the 3-point line. I'm under no illusion that Splash Mountain can contain Embiid, but I would really hope the playoffs bring a different approach.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:13 am
by brettski
paulpressey25 wrote:Wonder what Giannis tweet means. Niko maybe losing minutes?

Giannis out due to ankle?

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:39 am
by MelbourneBuck
Pretty ridiculous what Giannis has been able to do against some of the league's best defenders in Embiid and Gobert. Could see him having a monster playoffs.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:46 am
by Kolkmania
Thought it was a fun game from a Sixers perspective at least. A seven-game series will be extremely close imo. Sixers are dependent on their high-end talent, whereas the Bucks rely on their offensive system around Giannis.
Losing Brogdon hurts, because it offers more playing time for Snell/Pat/Brown/DDV/etc. which are fine options to hide Redick on. On the defensive end it makes your rotation more vulnerable for mismatch hunting by Embiid, SImmons, Harris and Butler.

Glad that Giannis is fine, these kind of small roles lead to breaking a metatarsal quite often.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:05 am
by MelbourneBuck
Not sure how good the tracking is but according to the advanced box score on NBA.com Mirotic, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe went 13/39 on uncontested FGA.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:01 am
by leroyjw10
MelbourneBuck wrote:Not sure how good the tracking is but according to the advanced box score on NBA.com Mirotic, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe went 13/39 on uncontested FGA.


Certainly passes the eye test.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:02 am
by AussieBuck
MelbourneBuck wrote:Not sure how good the tracking is but according to the advanced box score on NBA.com Mirotic, Lopez, Middleton and Bledsoe went 13/39 on uncontested FGA.

That'll do it. Losing sucks and our general lack of available and playable guards also sucks but on the plus side this is the most recent record of the Put a C on Giannis and sag off strategy:

Gobert and co: played off the court Giannis 43/14/8
Embiid and friends: 52/16/7

Plus there's Jarret Allen and a few others in the graveyard. (he beat up Miami in their house too) That's the 33 minutes a game guy too, he'll play 40 or so in the playoffs. I like having an all-time type unguardable giant human playing on the Bucks.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:03 am
by AussieBuck
Middleton needs to practice taking open shots, he's got that Redd thing about him where he wants someone in his face. Ersan has kinda been coached out of it.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:54 pm
by paulpressey25
brettski wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Wonder what Giannis tweet means. Niko maybe losing minutes?

Giannis out due to ankle?


That thought seems spot on. Absolutely zero reason why Giannis would RT that otherwise, along with commentary.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:56 pm
by MikeIsGood
I'm not sure "spot on" can said to be correct when Giannis completely and thoroughly dominated the game even after tweaking his ankle. Making a pretty large jump here to Giannis being out. It's absolutely possible he's just trying to keep his teammate's spirits up.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:01 pm
by paulpressey25
MikeIsGood wrote:I'm not sure "spot on" can said to be correct when Giannis completely and thoroughly dominated the game even after tweaking his ankle. Making a pretty large jump here to Giannis being out. It's absolutely possible he's just trying to keep his teammate's spirits up.


Sure, but sprains like that usually don't develop into a problem until 24 hours later. Just makes no sense why the team leader sends out a tweet to a bench scrub that his time is now.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:17 pm
by crkone
https://stats.nba.com/game/0021801043/matchups/?OFF_PLAYER_ID=&DEF_PLAYER_ID=203114

Matchups data:

Reminder:

Matchup possessions are attributed to the player vs. player matchup that occurred for the longest number of seconds on the possession.


...so take that how you wish.


Khris had a decent defensive game according to Second Spectrum data. Jimmy scored 12 points on 40% shooting on Mids, while Embiid got two FTs from him and Scott hit that 3 over Khris.

Giannis had a pretty bad defensive game, allowing 9 of 11 shooting to 6 players for 21 points.

Bledsoe allowed 7 of 12 shooting for 19 points to Jimmy, Redick, and McConnell.

Lopez did an admirable job on Embiid, allowing 44% shooting, 3 of 11 on 3s.

Offensively, Bledsoe and Mirotic were a mess.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:20 pm
by MikeIsGood
paulpressey25 wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:I'm not sure "spot on" can said to be correct when Giannis completely and thoroughly dominated the game even after tweaking his ankle. Making a pretty large jump here to Giannis being out. It's absolutely possible he's just trying to keep his teammate's spirits up.


Sure, but sprains like that usually don't develop into a problem until 24 hours later. Just makes no sense why the team leader sends out a tweet to a bench scrub that his time is now.


They have a spot for the rest of the season, and Wood offers insurance in case it does get worse.

There's no way Giannis knew an hour after the game he'd be out. You yourself just said they don't usually develop into a problem for up to 24 hours later.

We're jumping to conclusions. If it comes to be then it comes to be. It's just pointless speculation right now. Which is fine, but I refute it being "spot on."

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:34 pm
by highkick05
MrHoneycutt wrote:
highkick05 wrote:
TD75 wrote:A big factor in today's loss was the rebounds differential. Lopez needs to do a better job under the basket, and the same stands for the Bucks' guards.


Lopez just let Embiid play his game. I was a little upset watching Embiid get past Lopez that easily.

I mean let him shoot if you want but put a body in front of him, you're allowed to ffs


That was my thing too. Embiid hit some really tough shots and did what he does, but Brook had more than a few plays where he just didn't get in his grill enough while he drove to the hoop, and didn't get out to contest him at the 3-point line. I'm under no illusion that Splash Mountain can contain Embiid, but I would really hope the playoffs bring a different approach.


Embiid stepped around him far too easily when he went to the rack. This is where Lopez should be chesting him, but I saw ZERO physicality.

Yeah come playoffs, at least needs to be a few bumps on the big guy to let him know we're there. Perhaps even force him into doubles, or his unpreferred direction. He is way too slow to dominate games. I have watched quite a few games because of Simmons and Embiid hass never played as good as I saw him against US this game. He cleaned up on everything lol was nuts.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:03 pm
by truly
Something that hasn't been mentioned is Embiid's conditioning.I don't think the guy can play high minutes in the playoffs.He didn't seem willing to take so many 3s but he probably gets tired banging down low,so he had to in order to preserve energy.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 2:53 pm
by skones
paulpressey25 wrote:
MikeIsGood wrote:I'm not sure "spot on" can said to be correct when Giannis completely and thoroughly dominated the game even after tweaking his ankle. Making a pretty large jump here to Giannis being out. It's absolutely possible he's just trying to keep his teammate's spirits up.


Sure, but sprains like that usually don't develop into a problem until 24 hours later. Just makes no sense why the team leader sends out a tweet to a bench scrub that his time is now.


Sprains absolutely develop into a problem later on. I don't know how many times I've rolled an ankle, gone back out and played only to wake up the next morning with the thing swelled up like a balloon.

I think Giannis is fine, but sprains can sneak up on you in a big way. Just think Giannis is supporting a teammate.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:47 pm
by JayMKE
Mirotic doesn't seem much better to me than Teletovic, if he's not hitting his shot he's pretty much worthless. DJ to me seems like an easily better player who should see the floor more the Nikola or Pau at this point.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:52 pm
by highkick05
crkone wrote:https://stats.nba.com/game/0021801043/matchups/?OFF_PLAYER_ID=&DEF_PLAYER_ID=203114

Matchups data:

Reminder:

Matchup possessions are attributed to the player vs. player matchup that occurred for the longest number of seconds on the possession.


...so take that how you wish.


Khris had a decent defensive game according to Second Spectrum data. Jimmy scored 12 points on 40% shooting on Mids, while Embiid got two FTs from him and Scott hit that 3 over Khris.

Giannis had a pretty bad defensive game, allowing 9 of 11 shooting to 6 players for 21 points.

Bledsoe allowed 7 of 12 shooting for 19 points to Jimmy, Redick, and McConnell.

Lopez did an admirable job on Embiid, allowing 44% shooting, 3 of 11 on 3s.

Offensively, Bledsoe and Mirotic were a mess.


This needs to get sorted. I'm not totally angry at Bledsoe, but Mirotic needs to be a starter now.

No f*cking around big Miro. Guy needs to be deadset ready to play from 0 minutes or sit down and let someone else play.

If that ball gets swung to him , he needs to be dropping shots 50% of the time

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:56 pm
by JayMKE
Embiid hit some crazy shots, took a ton of wide open 3s with nobody contesting, I think it definitely was an outlier game. He's a great player but not somebody I'm particularly afraid of shutting done the paint to us. If we're going to dare guys to shoot then we got to grab those long rebounds, felt like Philly got every one.

Re: PG Sixers: Season Over

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:00 pm
by SirChurros
Man, Sixers fans are really pounding their chest after this win.