Woj: Malcolm Brogdon S&T to Pacers for Picks (NO TPE)

[trwi7]

Once again Matt Velasquez proves that being the mouthpiece for the FO means absolutely nothing when you're actually looking for news.

It’s sort of sad to watch him pose questions on twitter. “I wonder what the Bucks are doing?” “What does this mean?”

To pat myself on the back, I was one of the first to say he wasn't good at his job, he just seemed better than he actually was because he replaced Gardner.

[rrayy]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

This is not blatant cheapness. How do you guys not understand that Brogaon DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN MILWAUKEE? Why do you guys seriously want to pay a guy all that money who you know is going to be a malcontent and probably be a liability to the team?

So... just S&T him for some bull? This is a terrible deal..

YOu act like nothing else more is going to happen. They will be able to create a TPE which means they can get a replacement. Stop with the tunnel vision on the trade and look at the bigger picture on what they can now do. They can absolutely get his replacement.

[SupremeHustle]

So $21 million TPE being reported. I do like that.

Gallinari?

Dragic?

Covington?

CAPELA???

JAE CROWDER!!!!???

[MickeyDavis]

Well ****, now I'm hearing $10 million TPE again. So is it 10 or 21 or somewhere in the middle

[crkone]

Read on Twitter

[James1980]

I think the 50 40 90 at 15 ppg did, but ok.

He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee because he said it was mkst segregated city he's lived in? Why come back in the playoffs then?

I thought it was good too. AS you said, Brogdon didn't want to be in Milwaukee and they now create a TPE to land a FA.

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If he doesn't come back in the palyoffs, he doesn't get what he just got. He would be stuck in Milwaukee, or play somewhere else for far less than what he would in Milwaukee. Only a fool would sit out. His playoffs is what got him the extra cash.

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[buckboy]

A lot.of really poor takes re: the owners in this thread. Do you really think that TPE will go unused.

This has a chance to be a grand slam of they use that TPE well. Several teams looking to get money off the books. I'll be shocked if Gordon isn't a top target

[Buck Dweller]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

This is not blatant cheapness. How do you guys not understand that Brogaon DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN MILWAUKEE? Why do you guys seriously want to pay a guy all that money who you know is going to be a malcontent and probably be a liability to the team?

At this point this is still presupposition with the only evidence being a Gery tweet. He never made a trade demand as far as we know.

[SupremeHustle]

How can we not even get a servicable rotation player in a S&T??? **** picks

TPE and picks can turn into something nice. I'm willing to chill and see what Horst does with his new toys.

[rrayy]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

They have a tpe they can use now. What are you talking about?

and picks! Use those both for Josh Richardson. Gives us the replacement we need and gives Miami more room to obtain Butler. I'm going to say it into existence!

This is a great example of what is possible.

[glenn]

Once again Matt Velasquez proves that being the mouthpiece for the FO means absolutely nothing when you're actually looking for news.

It’s sort of sad to watch him pose questions on twitter. “I wonder what the Bucks are doing?” “What does this mean?”

I actually just went ahead and unfollowed him after the playoffs. He didn’t really bring much to the table.

[trwi7]

JAE CROWDER!!!!???

There's our #2 option, right RS?

[coolhandluke121]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

Agreed EXCEPT they do have a $21 million TPE, so if they use that wisely it may, MAY turn out ok.

Sure seems like all their moves are designed to avoid the luxury tax. A little too convenient that they'll be just a few million under after using the room MLE. I don't expect them to use the TPE but I hope I'm wrong.

How do they get a full TPE if Brogdon was a BYC player? I haven't read up on that, but it seems like a pretty huge loophole. I have a hunch his TPE is half his new salary, just as that would be what they're allowed to trade him for (give or take 25%).

[rrayy]

Well ****, now I'm hearing $10 million TPE again. So is it 10 or 21 or somewhere in the middle

GOing to have to wait until the contract is signed and move officially made on July 6 to get the offiical numbers.

[BroncoBuck]

So basically they traded an asset for a bunch of assets that could potentially bring back another asset comparable to the one they originally traded. If they find a trade partner, it's a lateral move, and that's assuming the return is equal enough to Brogdon. If they can't find a trade partner, you just squandered your #4 guy in the rotation JUST SO THE OWNERS DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE TAX.

You’re also ignoring Brogdon’s medical problems.

The Bucks traded an asset they were going to lose for another asset.

[BigO]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

This is not blatant cheapness. How do you guys not understand that Brogaon DOES NOT WANT TO BE IN MILWAUKEE? Why do you guys seriously want to pay a guy all that money who you know is going to be a malcontent and probably be a liability to the team?

So... just S&T him for some bull? This is a terrible deal..

There is absolutely nothing to the rumor Brogdon didn't want to be here. He loved the owners, teammates and coach. This is all about him getting the best deal possible and the front office not viewing him as important as the other three free agents (incl. Bledsoe). I think they made a big mistake. They prioritized Bledsoe and signed him for 3-4 million less per year than Brogdon. I would have let Bledsoe go and kept brogdon. This is a shooter's league and Brogdon was one of the most efficient players they have. Good defender and much improved attack the basket game. If you're in a win now mode, this is the wrong move.

[soxperry]

the reactions to this move are pretty fascinating considering the fact that no one here knows what the final result of all of this will be.

[lvckv]

There's no way we sign someone who is a real replacement for what Brogdon brings with a $10m TPE lol. Give me a break.

[LuessiT]

I don't love Brogdon but it's the blatant cheapness that bothers me. They won't even be paying the luxury tax if they use the room MLE and sign a vet min deal or two. Best record in the NBA and a chance to win their first title in 50 years. Disgraceful.

Agreed EXCEPT they do have a $21 million TPE, so if they use that wisely it may, MAY turn out ok.

Sure seems like all their moves are designed to avoid the luxury tax. A little too convenient that they'll be just a few million under after using the room MLE. I don't expect them to use the TPE but I hope I'm wrong.

How do they get a full TPE if Brogdon was a BYC player? I haven't read up on that, but it seems like a pretty huge loophole. I have a hunch his TPE is half his new salary, just as that would be what they're allowed to trade him for (give or take 25%).

Yeah I'm trying to figure that out. Should be pretty easy if we figure out how high of a TPE Cavs got in the Delly S&T.

The Milwaukee Bucks have officially acquired guard Matthew Dellavedova in a sign-and-trade with the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Bucks and Cavaliers both issued press releases confirming the deal on Thursday.

Originally, Dellavedova agreed to a four-year, $38.5 million deal with Milwaukee. Rather than him signing an offer sheet, though, the two teams agreed to a sign-and-trade that will give Cleveland a $4.8 million trade exception.

Okay so we get half of his salary unless we're executing it before Lopez and figure out a way to sign him.

[Nowak008]

I’m glad Horst was worried about managing assets for the next few years. They must believe in DDV.

Or more likely... LED cheaped out.