tydett wrote:German Athens wrote:I feel like this is highlighting the brogdon debacle from last summer. If I remember correctly, we could have brought in the same guys last year and then just used bird rights to keep brogdon? We would have been in the tax, but I have to think
1. Brogdon is a good player that would help us and
2. His contract and ability would be a valuable trade chip at this point. - maybe brogdon could have been traded for bogdan straight up.
Theoretically, yes, if Indiana didn't really want Brogdon and Brogdom were willing to wait to re-sign.
Unfortunately, those were not true, so Indiana could've forced the Bucks hand by signing him to an offer sheet right away, which would've put the Bucks in the position of needing to either match or let him go for nothing. Matching him would've meant the Bucks could've probably only had the taxpayer MLE to get Bropez (a significant cut from his current salary) or Hill (not both) without hardscaping themselves at the apron.
Of course, all of this gets lost because everybody just assumes "hurr durr Bucks brought back everyone else just go into luxury tax!!" but they forget the Bucks lost bird rights on Hill when they waived him to avoid paying him $17 million and didn't have them on Brook after signing him to the BAE. That, and it's much easier to parrot what other (Raptor, Heat, etc.) idiots say on a message board
Yeah, pretty much. Although technically the Bucks would have had 48 hours to fit everyone else under the cap before matching the offer, so it wouldn't have been a big difference. The difference is that Brogdon's cap hold (preserving right to match) was bigger than his qualifying offer (preserving right to sign-and-trade him) so you would have had to ask Brook or Hill to accept less to make up the difference. I'm sure Hill showed the Bucks multiple MLE offers and said he'll stay if they just match that (too coincidental that he signed for almost exactly the MLE despite the Bucks not even having the full MLE) and Brook probably did the same with his offers from other teams, assuming he had at least one >MLE offer from a bad team trying to pry him away. So that would have been dicey.
ETA: I could be wrong since it's been well over a year, but I don't think it would have hard-capped them at the apron. They had Bird rights to everyone except Brook, whom they worked under the cap anyway.
the sad thing is us fans don't deserve them 
