Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[CharityStripe34]

giannis and whoever for brunson and towns.. we would still be playing. every dude here needs to just think bout that. just a litle thinking. not like arguing. just the thinking

then if we keep giannis...more thinking,

these mfers can get to the basket and they all can shoot!

Bridges and Hart on the Bucks and we'd be the ones still playing. Giannis is way better than NY's two main guys. And I like Towns.

[GoldenAntlers]

giannis and whoever for brunson and towns.. we would still be playing. every dude here needs to just think bout that. just a litle thinking. not like arguing. just the thinking

then if we keep giannis...more thinking,

these mfers get to the basket and they both can shoot!

Not even close. They have a great supporting cast. OG, Hart, and Bridges are better than everything we have. The only reason we're a similar team is because Giannis alone is so much better than Brunson and KAT.

Not even Giannis gets Brunson calls.

[raferfenix]

If the Bucks are seeking an aggressive trade taking advantage of teams desperate to shed salary that'd be quite a different pitch to Giannis than "gap year."

Whether we'd also dangle our 2031 first and / or 2032 swap (which must look that much juicier on the market these days) is another question.

Saving those picks to package more of them in a bigger deal next offseason -- when Giannis could sign an extension too -- might be a point of negotiation for whether he wants to bail or give it another year.

Feel like ownership spending big should at least be the bar fans much less Giannis would insist on either way.

[ShootingtheJ]

I maintain that Kessler is a horrible fit with Giannis for spacing reasons, but this idea that non-switchable bigs are now obsolete in the playoffs is weird. Having multiple talented 7-footers is never a bad thing.

Sure, unless you're playing teams that have shooting centers, which almost every contender has. Agile 7 footer? Sure, but that's not Kessler.

The real problem here though is, we'd have to give up assets to get Kessler. We don't even have a weakness at center as long as we remove Lopez.

We desperately need to use those assets for a wing or combo forward.

[pifhluk23]

"Celtics May Have To Attach Draft Pick To Trade Jrue Holiday"

This deal is just begging for us to take it but I've been trying in the trade machine for 20 minutes and I can't find a deal that works because the Cs are over the 2nd apron.

[Wonka]

giannis and whoever for brunson and towns.. we would still be playing. every dude here needs to just think bout that. just a litle thinking. not like arguing. just the thinking

then if we keep giannis...more thinking,

these mfers get to the basket and they both can shoot!

Not even close. They have a great supporting cast. OG, Hart, and Bridges are better than everything we have. The only reason we're a similar team is because Giannis alone is so much better than Brunson and KAT.

Not even Giannis gets Brunson calls.

He doesn’t sell contact at all. It’s not a skill he has ever seemed too interested in developing. He plays straight up and either they call it or not, unfortunately.

[Ron Swanson]

"Celtics May Have To Attach Draft Pick To Trade Jrue Holiday"

This deal is just begging for us to take it but I've been trying in the trade machine for 20 minutes and I can't find a deal that works because the Cs are over the 2nd apron.

Really? Kuzma + Pat works easily. Celtics toss us a 1st round pick and throw a couple 2nd's to Brooklyn or some cap space team that takes Pat's contract. This is the trade we've been talking about and I really don't understand how more people don't see this as a no-brainer. Push for that Top-10 or lottery protected 2026 1st and this team would have 4 future firsts and a swap to trade next offseason for one last pitch to Giannis (Our 2026 1st, 2026 BOS 1st, 2031 1st, 2032 pick swap, 2033 1st).

[pifhluk23]

"Celtics May Have To Attach Draft Pick To Trade Jrue Holiday"

This deal is just begging for us to take it but I've been trying in the trade machine for 20 minutes and I can't find a deal that works because the Cs are over the 2nd apron.

Really? Kuzma + Pat works easily. Celtics toss us a 1st round pick and throw a couple 2nd's to Brooklyn or some cap space team that takes Pat's contract. This is the trade we've been talking about and I really don't understand how more people don't see this as a no-brainer. Push for that Top-10 or lottery protected 2026 1st and this team would have 4 future firsts and a swap to trade next offseason for one last pitch to Giannis (Our 2026 1st, 2026 BOS 1st, 2031 1st, 2032 pick swap, 2032 1st).

Kuzma + Pat doesn't work in the trade machine no matter who you add from their side. Has to be 2 for 2 but Kuzma is too far from Jrue's salary for it to work due to 2nd apron rules. Oh I see you are adding in a 3rd team but yeah I agree I'd do this deal in a heartbeat, they may even have to give us a 2nd in addition to the first.

[Ron Swanson]

"Celtics May Have To Attach Draft Pick To Trade Jrue Holiday"

This deal is just begging for us to take it but I've been trying in the trade machine for 20 minutes and I can't find a deal that works because the Cs are over the 2nd apron.

Really? Kuzma + Pat works easily. Celtics toss us a 1st round pick and throw a couple 2nd's to Brooklyn or some cap space team that takes Pat's contract. This is the trade we've been talking about and I really don't understand how more people don't see this as a no-brainer. Push for that Top-10 or lottery protected 2026 1st and this team would have 4 future firsts and a swap to trade next offseason for one last pitch to Giannis (Our 2026 1st, 2026 BOS 1st, 2031 1st, 2032 pick swap, 2032 1st).

Kuzma + Pat doesn't work in the trade machine no matter who you add from their side. Has to be 2 for 2 but Kuzma is too far from Jrue's salary for it to work due to 2nd apron rules. Oh I see you are adding in a 3rd team but yeah I agree I'd do this deal in a heartbeat, they may even have to give us a 2nd in addition to the first.

I think it's a glitch in Spotrac's trade machine. Boston can't aggregate or trade for a player making even 1-cent more than Jrue's salary, but they can split him into two players making a combined amount that's less than $32.4 million, which Kuzma and Pat do. Maybe they're counting unlikely incentives or whatever, but like we said, it shouldn't be too difficult to reroute Pat elsewhere for minimal compensation.

[Ron Swanson]

And FWIW, a Warriors mod on the trade board said they'd straight up let Kuminga walk if it meant getting Brook in a sign & trade. Think people are still underrating how many capped out teams would be interested in flipping a minor asset for Brook.

[raferfenix]

"Celtics May Have To Attach Draft Pick To Trade Jrue Holiday"

This deal is just begging for us to take it but I've been trying in the trade machine for 20 minutes and I can't find a deal that works because the Cs are over the 2nd apron.

Really? Kuzma + Pat works easily. Celtics toss us a 1st round pick and throw a couple 2nd's to Brooklyn or some cap space team that takes Pat's contract. This is the trade we've been talking about and I really don't understand how more people don't see this as a no-brainer. Push for that Top-10 or lottery protected 2026 1st and this team would have 4 future firsts and a swap to trade next offseason for one last pitch to Giannis (Our 2026 1st, 2026 BOS 1st, 2031 1st, 2032 pick swap, 2032 1st).

This does seem enticing to me too even with all the caveats about Jrue’s deal.

Are there other ideas where ownership would be putting up cash for value in return that would theoretically be better?

[SirChurros]

I thought Kuminga was a bright spot for the Warriors in that Wolves series. With them all in on Butler, I’d love to somehow get him.

[Wonka]

If the option is trotting Kyle Kuzma out there for 30 minutes a night or doing the same with an old, old Jrue Holiday. I pick Jrue.

[DingleJerry]

I'm not looking to take on Jrues contract, I was one of the few here years ago saying to trade him so we don't get hitched to it. But, if no other better deals come up I'd do what's being proposed here. Jrue is still useful/ok, just way overpaid. But keep in mind you'd be getting some picks with him, so fastforward a year or two when he's really looking washed, you'd have his contract to trade along with those picks and others that we are then allowed to trade. Could maybe get a younger good player then. I do think Bos should probably kick in more than 1 pick to make up for how bad that contract is though. IDK what young guys they could give or what else though.

[tedbrogen]

I'm not looking to take on Jrues contract, I was one of the few here years ago saying to trade him so we don't get hitched to it. But, if no other better deals come up I'd do what's being proposed here. Jrue is still useful/ok, just way overpaid. But keep in mind you'd be getting some picks with him, so fastforward a year or two when he's really looking washed, you'd have his contract to trade along with those picks and others that we are then allowed to trade. Could maybe get a younger good player then. I do think Bos should probably kick in more than 1 pick to make up for how bad that contract is though. IDK what young guys they could give or what else though.

I think part of it is they are taking Kuz and after how awful her looked in the playoffs, that’s probably worth a pick itself in the cost to shed him.

[DingleJerry]

I'm not looking to take on Jrues contract, I was one of the few here years ago saying to trade him so we don't get hitched to it. But, if no other better deals come up I'd do what's being proposed here. Jrue is still useful/ok, just way overpaid. But keep in mind you'd be getting some picks with him, so fastforward a year or two when he's really looking washed, you'd have his contract to trade along with those picks and others that we are then allowed to trade. Could maybe get a younger good player then. I do think Bos should probably kick in more than 1 pick to make up for how bad that contract is though. IDK what young guys they could give or what else though.

I think part of it is they are taking Kuz and after how awful her looked in the playoffs, that’s probably worth a pick itself in the cost to shed him.

Yea that's fair. But we're saving them over 50 mil (not counting tax), while also letting them out a year earlier. I'd think it would be worth more than 1 protected pick that'll be in the teens or worse. But yea, maybe Kuz is that bad

[soxperry]

Jrue is gonna make

35: 32
36: 34.8
37: 37

This next season is actually not that bad and many teams could talk themselves into Jrue being almost worth the 32 this coming year as a luxury move that takes them from one tier to another. But it's the remaining 2 that could become very difficult. It's going to come down to desperation and possibly some delusion.

[engelmartin]

I'd do bobby for kuminga in a sec. Bobby would be perfect for the Warriors though, he'd probably have a career year

[mlloyd10]

Can you attached picks to S&T?

[yb90]

BOS - Sexton and Connaughton
TOR - Jrue, Milwaukee '31 1st
UTA - Kuzma, Boston 1st, Mi
MIL - Barrett, Martin Jr, and Uta 2nd