Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[breakchains]

Interesting that the Hawks are checking out Ennis. I still would like to go after Schroder.

[JayMKE]

I just had Stauskas in there as a placeholder at #7.

Aside from him, what player would need to be available for us to think it'd be worth trading Knight / Henson / Middleton for #7?

My original suggested deal was Knight / Henson / Middleton / Udoh / #48 for #7 / Nash. Of course that could be simplified with fewer players, but I'd love to have even an ancient Nash playing 20-40 games here if he would be willing to.

Smart and only Smart, that's still high price to pay

[sherm]

So let's say the Cavs either take Wiggins or trade the pick to the 76ers who take him.

We then draft Embiid at #2 as soon as we can.

While we fans are dancing in the streets, our front offices immediately trades Knight / Henson / Middleton / Udoh / #48 to the Lakers for #7 and Nash.

Then let's say we draft Nick Stauskus. I suggest him not because I necessarily think he's the one Hammond is referring to but because he'd fit perfectly to role out in the following lineup -- along with whoever we draft at #31 and #36:

PG: Nash / Wolters
SG: Stauskus / Mayo's fat corpse
SF: Giannis / Delfino
PF: Sanders / Ersan
C: Embiid / Radujica

I'd be pretty excited to watch that team next year.

Yeh I wouldnt come close to giving up that much only to land stauskas. At 7 you get Smart and roll with the PG/C combo for the future. And if by chance Embid's back did become an issue, we would still have a athletic all star calibur pg to lead the team and get us out in Transition with Giannis on the wing.

I still have Embid as my 3rd rated behind wiggins and parker

[FlagsFlyForever]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

I think that lineup would work, I think you sub Middleton for Wolters it becomes questionable. Unless youthink Giannis is Scottie Pippen and Parker is Durant, which I do not. Granted that lineup could be very questionable if Wolters doesn't find his jumpshot again. Smart and Wolters of last season would be the worst shooting backcourt in the league.

I would rather OJ Mayo start next to Smart than Wolters.

[On_Wisconsin]

I can't decide who I want between Parker and Wiggins. I'm so torn. Embiid is the clear #1. If I had to guess, I would bet that Wiggins is the pick. I know almost everything points to Parker right now, but just a gut feeling.

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[RandyBreuer]

If Clev is hell bent on maxing out Irving and winning now the Bucks and Sixers should take full advantage and throw them Sanders and Thad Young to move to 3. Bucks take Embiid 1, Wiggins goes 2, and Clev takes Parker at 3.

[JEIS]

I'm just glad we are in a position to add a player of this type of caliber. I'm very glad we are not pissing and moaning about picking 16th or 17th in this draft.

[Death B4 Taxes]

I really don't care who the Bucks pick anymore as long as they tank again next season for another top pick.

[crkone]

Regardless of the actual impressions from the workout today, I expect to hear rumblings by Ford or Woelfel that the Bucks were "blown away" by Wiggins athleticism and skills.

[Superfito]

I still say Hammomd's track record of raw athletic players indicate the Bucks are taking Embiid or Wiggins. While I'm sure the Bucks do like Parker, there's a reasonable chance it's a smokescreen to try and make PHI comfortable at 3.

[White+Purple]

Excited to hear that we have Embiid #1, excited that we have a target to move up for. Disagree that it's Saric; he's not consensus 5-9. Problem is that if Vonleh falls due to conditioning red flags, we'll need higher than #8 to get our guy.

Ditto. Just goes to show how much emphasis is put on workouts which personally I think is ridiculous.

Agreed. That's how JA can get drafted in the top 10 ...even though when he tried to grab a rebound in summer league he would slap it like a volleyball.

Just saw the same thing happen in the NFL where one workout pushed Teddy Bridgewater out of the Top 10 to the end of the first round. That's totally f'd up. If that's where he deserved to go he should've been ranked there long before his pro day. I think you see so many mistakes made by NBA GMs in the draft and I'm willing to bet many of them are a result of putting more emphasis on workouts than game production.

Ot: it pains me to know the Vikings got maybe the best player in the draft

Jabari Barkley?

Jabarles Parkley.

[Bucksfan28]

Regardless of the actual impressions from the workout today, I expect to hear rumblings by Ford or Woelfel that the Bucks were "blown away" by Wiggins athleticism and skills.

I fully expect Woelfel to be the first one to condemn Wiggins.

[trwi7]

Regardless of the actual impressions from the workout today, I expect to hear rumblings by Ford or Woelfel that the Bucks were "blown away" by Wiggins athleticism and skills.

I fully expect Woelfel to be the first one to condemn Wiggins.

Doesn't have the bulk or shooting prowess of Caron Butler.

[crkone]

Regardless of the actual impressions from the workout today, I expect to hear rumblings by Ford or Woelfel that the Bucks were "blown away" by Wiggins athleticism and skills.

I fully expect Woelfel to be the first one to condemn Wiggins.

Woelfel will say the Bucks brass love what they see, but his sources around the league have soured on him.

[Frank Nova]

The Parker defense hate is annoying. All players have lapses on the defensive end. It's not uncommon in the least. He still made up 25% of Dukes team defensive rebounding per game, 15% of team steals per game and 41% of team blocks per game. You can't contribute that much AND be this perceived "sieve" I keep reading on here. Despite his lazy moments, he was active on that end of the floor and generated tons of transition offense from his defensive play. God forbid he didn't dominate both ends of the floor every possession of every game.

Makes me sick the perception some of you have on this topic. Like Andrew Wiggins was the lock down defender no one could score on? No he wasn't anything like that. His length and athleticism projects him to be a potential great on ball defender, but Parker's length and athleticism projects him to be a major liability? It really just makes the Parker haters sound like nothing more than Parker haters.

Well for me personally, seeing is believing. Parker is not average or even below average on defense. Plain and simple he's a bad defender. His "lapses" are pretty damn often, and they are Gadzuric level bad quite often. He and Randle have got major work to do to even become slightly below average on that end.

As far as Wiggins is concerned, he's already a tremendous on the ball defender and sky is the limit on that end of the floor. If you're taking Parker you're doing so knowing that many nights he will be a nightmare matchup for opposing teams defensively and a complete liability on the other end. Watch the draft express breakdown for a few of the lowlights on Parker. Some are tough to watch.

U say "seeing is believing" but all u saw was "A few of the lowlights on Parker" from the draft express breakdown video. That's ur big assessment? That's terrible. U just sound like a hater and nothing more.

[paulpressey25]

Woelfel will say the Bucks brass love what they see, but his sources around the league have soured on him.

He'll only get to that part only after this.....

Gery: "You know Sparky, I spoke with someone in the league about this Wiggins workout or California Dreamin or whatever they are calling it. This person told me that they would never let a prospect dictate where the workout was to be held. He said making the Bucks brass all fly cross country was ludicrous. Would they have flown to Australia if Andrew Bogut had been this petulant in 2005?"

[Bucksfan28]

The Parker defense hate is annoying. All players have lapses on the defensive end. It's not uncommon in the least. He still made up 25% of Dukes team defensive rebounding per game, 15% of team steals per game and 41% of team blocks per game. You can't contribute that much AND be this perceived "sieve" I keep reading on here. Despite his lazy moments, he was active on that end of the floor and generated tons of transition offense from his defensive play. God forbid he didn't dominate both ends of the floor every possession of every game.

Makes me sick the perception some of you have on this topic. Like Andrew Wiggins was the lock down defender no one could score on? No he wasn't anything like that. His length and athleticism projects him to be a potential great on ball defender, but Parker's length and athleticism projects him to be a major liability? It really just makes the Parker haters sound like nothing more than Parker haters.

Well for me personally, seeing is believing. Parker is not average or even below average on defense. Plain and simple he's a bad defender. His "lapses" are pretty damn often, and they are Gadzuric level bad quite often. He and Randle have got major work to do to even become slightly below average on that end.

As far as Wiggins is concerned, he's already a tremendous on the ball defender and sky is the limit on that end of the floor. If you're taking Parker you're doing so knowing that many nights he will be a nightmare matchup for opposing teams defensively and a complete liability on the other end. Watch the draft express breakdown for a few of the lowlights on Parker. Some are tough to watch.

U say "seeing is believing" but all u saw was "A few of the lowlights on Parker" from the draft express breakdown video. That's ur big assessment? That's terrible. U just sound like a hater and nothing more.

I think he's just suggesting that if you're looking for good examples that illustrate his point, to watch the DX vid.

[jakecronus8]

The Parker defense hate is annoying. All players have lapses on the defensive end. It's not uncommon in the least. He still made up 25% of Dukes team defensive rebounding per game, 15% of team steals per game and 41% of team blocks per game. You can't contribute that much AND be this perceived "sieve" I keep reading on here. Despite his lazy moments, he was active on that end of the floor and generated tons of transition offense from his defensive play. God forbid he didn't dominate both ends of the floor every possession of every game.

Makes me sick the perception some of you have on this topic. Like Andrew Wiggins was the lock down defender no one could score on? No he wasn't anything like that. His length and athleticism projects him to be a potential great on ball defender, but Parker's length and athleticism projects him to be a major liability? It really just makes the Parker haters sound like nothing more than Parker haters.

Well for me personally, seeing is believing. Parker is not average or even below average on defense. Plain and simple he's a bad defender. His "lapses" are pretty damn often, and they are Gadzuric level bad quite often. He and Randle have got major work to do to even become slightly below average on that end.

As far as Wiggins is concerned, he's already a tremendous on the ball defender and sky is the limit on that end of the floor. If you're taking Parker you're doing so knowing that many nights he will be a nightmare matchup for opposing teams defensively and a complete liability on the other end. Watch the draft express breakdown for a few of the lowlights on Parker. Some are tough to watch.

U say "seeing is believing" but all u saw was "A few of the lowlights on Parker" from the draft express breakdown video. That's ur big assessment? That's terrible. U just sound like a hater and nothing more.

I probably watched at least 7 Duke games this year, including their first round loss to butt f*cking Mercer. The DX video is just a reference point for those who want to just gloss over the fact that Parker is truly a terrible defender and will say baseless things like "I'm sure he'll easily be at least an average defender" without any empirical evidence to support this theory. If you want to go with blind hope that's fine, just admit it.

Parker honks need to give up this whole "hater" thing for people that don't want him at 2. It's tired and played out. I'm really sick of the term in general.

[Nowak008]

I just had Stauskas in there as a placeholder at #7.

Aside from him, what player would need to be available for us to think it'd be worth trading Knight / Henson / Middleton for #7?

My original suggested deal was Knight / Henson / Middleton / Udoh / #48 for #7 / Nash. Of course that could be simplified with fewer players, but I'd love to have even an ancient Nash playing 20-40 games here if he would be willing to.

Smart and only Smart, that's still high price to pay

There are a lot of people here who value our JAG off role players way too much. What I mean by JAG is JUST A GUY Wolters, Middleton, Henson, and to a lesser extent Sanders, are guys you can pick up relatively easily at any time. We need star power in the worst way, this draft is stacked, we need to go get another cornerstone player next our #2 pick.

We need to package our JAG off players - Knight, Wolters, Sanders, Henson and our 2nd round picks and take a big swing.

[emunney]

Excited to hear that we have Embiid #1, excited that we have a target to move up for. Disagree that it's Saric; he's not consensus 5-9.

See Chad Ford tiers.